Who to keep?

My first round pick was part of a package that brought me Hebert, AJ Brown and Ackers and a 2nd round pick (he got my first, damien harris, deandre hopkins, and justin watson).

 

It’s 16 team, 1 QB starter.
I’d go Akers / AJ Brown / Herbert / (Mike Davis or Tonyan).

No first round pick. (So 18 actually your 1st)
So if you keep Tonyan and have 1 starter at each position you can pretty much take BPA at WR or RB from rounds 2-7. Maybe even through round 9 before you start snagging backups.

I understand the argument of keeping both Allen and Herbert. I’m assuming the argument is by week 2-3 trading one of them for a quality RB to a QB-desperate team. That’s an option. In a mostly re-draft league I can say I probably wouldn’t do it myself. But that’s up to you.

Herbert/Akers/AJ Brown are the no-brainer first 3. So really you have 1 decision to make.

 

16 team league. Four keepers each and he doesn’t pick until 18.

Trust me, he’s keeping Akers. Dude ain’t that risky.

As for Boyd, I like him too. But...Ja’Marr Chase. More running to protect Burrow. End argument.

 

The Rams don't even know if they like Akers....I'd call him very risky.

AJ Brown and the two QB's are the locks...He probably will have to hold onto Akers, but dude was used very sporadically last year, and it's not like they had a stable of stud RB's. Akers was pretty much 3rd option at RB for most of the season. Cross your fingers and hope for the best I guess...From a fantasy production standpoint, I think a case can be made for Boyd all day long, though I realize the premium is on RB's. I'm just saying....Caveat emptor.

 

lol! Just kick Josh Allen to the curb? I disagree completely with that. First of all, If you are only going to keep one QB, it should be Allen, hands down.

Both are too valuable to drop...At worst, try and trade one of them, but I wouldn't cut either based on that roster list.

 

The Rams like Akers. Not sure where you heard otherwise.

Two questions;
First, who’s their starter if not him? The guy they drafted him to improve upon?
Second, 15 other teams x 4 keepers each + 17 draft picks before Jean. Who the hell do you think he’s landing as his #1 if it isn’t Akers? Michael Carter? Darrell Henderson? Marlon Mack? He’s keeping Akers. Absolutely zero question about it.

Now just check stats for the final eight weeks. Not very sporadic at all. They rode him down the stretch when they realized trying to pretend they’re a pass-first team was killing them. You can ask Joe or Tim, I’m not even a big Akers supporter. But he’s the guy there. Henderson will be gone in 2 years, if not sooner. They have no one else.

The one thing you might be right on is Allen over Herbert. That’s up to Jean. Both very good last year. My call is Herbert but that one is debatable. I don’t know how easy QBs are to trade in that league. Can he trade before the draft? Cause that’s best case scenario.
Maybe land a CEH or D’Andre Swift pre-draft and go from there.

 

The one thing? (eyes rolling) Thanks. Three decades of fantasy football experience taught me something I guess.

 

Do you REALLY think I need to ask someone about Akers, or could it be that we just have differing opinions on his value heading into 2021 season?

I'm very aware of how Akers did down the stretch last year. He had nowhere to go but up.....I owned Akers last year. One of the biggest disappointments on my entire roster... Maybe he gets it together this season, maybe not, but to act like he's a "no brainer slam dunk" is ridiculous IMO..

 

Absolutely. He has two stud QB's and a less than average running game. There's no doubt JQ should try to trade a QB for a stud RB.

I've never actually played in a 16 team league, but I'm sure the picks are thin everywhere....

The Rams are hoping Akers will emerge.....I trust what I see. It wasn't that good, and I can easily see someone preferring Boyd over him in fantasy leagues. Not saying that's the way to go, just that there is an argument to be made. If it's PPR league (as most are) that doesn't help Akers

BTW: You point out that Chase is there now, but don't forget that AJ green is gone...That's a wash. Boyd is one of the most under-rated WR's in the league IMO, and he already has a good connection with Burrough.

 

I agree Boyd is an under-rated player, but that doesn’t often translate in fantasy to starter.
Hell I traded for him myself in one dynasty (pre-draft). He wasn’t the only piece so I won’t call it regret yet. It would help if that league had a flex position. But personally I can’t compare AJ Green of the last couple years to Ja’Marr Chase. I mean you want to talk Chemistry, him and Burrow were the epitome of Chemistry their last year together. Burrow himself lobbied for them to draft him. I think he’s getting a boatload of targets. I think Boyd ends up being option 4 in that offense if you include RBs.
Chase
Mixon
Higgins
Boyd
I guess an injury could always shake things up. But in this scenario I couldn’t personally make the argument for Boyd.

@Jeanquev is this a PPR league?

 

In this scenario it’s not ridiculous at all.

Now a true 12 team redraft league with 1 or less keepers, where JQ has a first rounder you’d be right. Ridiculous in that scenario. But I feel like your failing to recognize the parameters of this league (in regards to Akers), where surely the top 14 RBs are off the board to start with, then JQ is still waiting 17 picks before he gets to choose anyone. You don’t think Akers meets the qualifications of the 18th best fantasy RB option? And we might be talking 20th best, or 23rd best.

I’m saying in this exact scenario JQ is in, the odds of him landing someone “less risky” at 18 overall, after the waiting 17 picks, and after all the keepers are chosen is pretty much nil. Akers is his best choice. And if you’ve been playing fantasy 30 years or whatever then you know you aren’t winning a season with 1 RB anyways. So if Akers proves to be your #2, even better. I just can’t comprehend the argument you’re making (if I’m hearing you correctly) that he even consider dropping Akers in favour of keeping someone else off that initial list. I think his RBs in that scenario would ultimately end up bottom 2, and he’ll be watching his fantasy playoffs from the sidelines.

 

I mentioned Akers as a legit possibility on my original response.

Mixon is #2 receiver outlet in Cincy? lol! wth are you talking about??

My participation in fantasy football through the years is well documented. Perhaps I'm just more confident in my abilities to find quality at RB position beyond the 18th pick of the draft.

 

And in my original post I said the 2nd QB keeper was an option too. I said “it’s probably not what I would do”. I never said it was crazy.

I did not realize you were such a regular Fantasy player, mostly because I am in two site sponsored dynasty leagues, neither of which you are in with me. So I kind of thought maybe you stuck to the mock world and avoided fantasy. I figured you would be the first to sign up for the leagues here if you were into it.

I was referring to the division of work within the offense, including runs. Possibly it should be Mixon
Chase
Higgins
Boyd
Either way I see Boyd as the under-rated real life player who will struggle to show consistency with all those weapons around.

But it’s not the 18th pick. It’s the 82nd.
You see where I’m coming from?
15 teams who aren’t JQ x 4 keepers each.
That’s 60 players.
Let’s assume each team keeps 1 RB for sure (still most important position in fantasy). Now let’s assume (conservatively I’m guessing) that even one-third of the teams keeps a 2nd RB.
To me that means when the team with the 1st overall pick goes on the clock there are, at minimum, 20 RBs you don’t have available to you.
Now JQ is waiting 17 picks before he gets to add a player. Let’s conservatively assume 1/4 of those take an RB. So when he gets his first pick in the draft his best choice is the 26th best RB option in fantasy?
To say it’s AN OPTION whatsoever to drop an RB with at least a reasonable chance to finish top-10-12 in fantasy to keep a 2nd QB you can’t play (1 QB league), then wait to draft a 25th-30th best RB as your #1 or #2RB option (assuming you don’t swing and miss even) is just ludicrous. That’s no option in my opinion. It’s season suicide.
By all means keep the #2 QB if you want (as your 4th keeper). But you sure don’t keep him in lieu of the only obvious top 20 RB on your roster.

 

Yep. Gotta go Akers and hope. I get what you're saying.

I'm appalled. lol!

I'm a fucking fantasy football pioneer RT... I started my fantasy league in 1989. How old were you then?

Fantasy football was nothing more than a concept when I got my league started bro.... Twelve years of grinding through USA TODAY box scores for the official results. Anyone that played in those days knows exactly what I'm talkin about.

 

Haha, I wasn’t old enough to be playing fantasy football anyways.

I saw an interesting documentary on Netflix about some of the earliest guys playing fantasy baseball. Scrolling through boxscores etc.

 

Yes .5 per catch
I normally dont play in leagues of this size but for the past few years I have been trying my hand at taking over dead teams that need knew owners and seeing if I can turn them around. I figured hey ive never tried to right the ship of a team in a league with 16 teams so i grabbed it prior to last seasons draft and gave it a shot. Considering i finished in 2nd place (thus the 15th draft spot). Imdidnt do to bad now the quest is to show it wasnt a fluke and shoot for the championship. In a league of that soze the key of course is finding the correct sleepers as well as nabbing that guy on the wavier wire just a bit sooner than everyone else.

 

I remember those days. I also remember doing football scores the same way. Very early on we learned to have an official league so there would be no arguing about scores (it was not unusual for some items to be listed differently from paper to paper).

BTW i ended up going with Hebert, Akers, AJ Brown and Tonyan. I manged to pick up a 2nd and 5th for allen (hoped for a first but no luck). I also managed to snag a 2nd for Davis. Trying to unload Boyd but may not get him unloaded before draft.

Meanwhile in another league where I have the #1 overall draft pick ive been offered the following trades all from the same guy.
He gets
1st, 2nd, 3rd round draft pick.
I get
Chris Carson, Noah Fant, 2nd round draft pick

Offer #2
He gets
Justin Jefferson, 1st round this year, 1st round next year
I get
Chris Carson, Dionte Johnson, Carlos Edward-Helire, Noah Fant

Offer #3
He gets
1st and 4th
I get
Carson and Noah Fant again

I turned them all down 6 keepers in that league I kept Johnathan Taylor, Justin Jefferson, Robert Tonyan, Chase Claypool, Brandon Aiyuk, Odell Beckham. (My other running backs in case anyone wo dered why i didnt keep them were gus edwards, and anthony mcfarland) (again another team i took over after it had been drafted). The number 1 draft pick shows I was never able to get this team going should be much improved this next season.

 

Ya you can tell him to go fuck himself with those offers. Not the worst but something about how they are constructed feels slimy.

 

Most likely he thinks because i finished last im a fantasy idiot.

 

Time to start thinking about the keeper decisions for my league from the OP again...

I can keep up to 2.

Potential keepers (and pick I would have to forfeit to keep them):

Derrick Henry or Aaron Jones 1.06
DK Metcalf 3.06
Damien Harris 7.06
A.J. Brown 8.07
Jamaal Williams 11.06
Chase Claypool 15.06

Leaning toward Brown and Claypool based on value, though ensuring Henry in the mid-first is tempting (if this isn't the year the wheels come off for him, which has been known to happen to guys after 400 touch 2K seasons)