Its kinda hard to have a discussion with someone who has his head shoved up his own ass. (Your words, not mine)
People have the right to choose when where and with whatever person they want to talk with. Nobody else gets to decide that for them. ANd who are you to lecture me on societal issues and what the hell does that have to do with ignoring some asshole on an internet forum? And how can you tell me to back up when it was you that came out with an aggressive stance?
I'll address this and Lyman at once, because they're related answers: It's one thing to read someone's nonsense, decide you don't want to engage, and stay out of it. We all do it every day, all the time. You use that discretion to determine when you do want to get involved, as well. When you censor someone entirely - to the point where you don't even see their contribution - you take away even the option of discussion. That leads to people staying in their own boxes, their own cliques, and creating echo chambers. It's worth staying open to people's ideas and contributions, so as not to put them in a box and eliminate any conversation altogether. Showstopper has made good points in the past, despite being surrounded by incoherent or woefully underdeveloped arguments. It's easy to choose not to engage, when you read nonsense. Just do that, rather than eliminating all potential for discussion. That way, when an individual says something worth discussing, it's noticed. I talk about the similar behavior in society at large because we've perpetuated and been damaged by it. We're all a part of society. Why wouldn't we ask better of each other? Why wouldn't we want to be better? It's not hard. I called the act of advocating for and using the "ignore" feature cowardly. If you consider that aggressive, I don't know what to tell you. "... no one gives a shit about earning your respect" - beyond the misunderstanding, back up. If you take issue with that being my response, again, I don't know what to tell you. I'm not trying to be aggressive, and I was just asking you to respond in kind. This is a worthwhile conversation that I'd really not like to see derailed by personal attacks and hurt egos.
Its a free country, Dline. If you choose to wade through post after post of trollish bullshit, then do it. Stopper has but one mission in life and that's to piss off as many people as he can. I choose not to feed his mission and ignore him.
You can take your worthwhile conversation and blow. What arrogance on your part to assume that you can preach to others about what is right and wrong and what to do about it. You used the terms cowardly and disgraceful then act stunned when someone calls you on it. This is a football forum. This is a BROWNS football forum. We can discuss what we want with who we want whenever we want so you can take your opinion and stuff it. Who the fuck do you think you are? What do you think gives you the right to come here and lecture any of us on how to act? YOu can take your participation trophies back to the Bears board. I've read some of your other posts here so you can save the show for someone that might not have noticed your double standards.
I won't ignore him because he gives me a laugh but I'm not going to pretend that I have some moral high ground to tell others how to act. It takes an unbelievable amount of arrogance to act like that. You have the right to make that choice for yourself and I respect that.
Well, fuck. I guess I'll stop trying. We'll all just keep being shitty people who don't listen to each other because we don't want to, that's a good enough reason. Someone else said, "Let's be better together", and that's upsetting, so fuck everything. Lyman, I get it, man - showstopper is a pain in the ass. But buried in his terrible, half-baked arguments have been some points worth considering. My argument is that, while guys like showstopper (and others - it's not exclusive) are easy to censor entirely, the act itself isn't worth the compromise. There are more people on this site ignoring legitimate contributors who have brought/can bring legitimate discussions than those ignoring people like showstopper. And, the more people do it, the more easily it's continued and accepted. All I'm saying is, I'd rather skim over someone's stuff than open the gate for everyone to start excluding each other entirely. I get that we have the freedom to do as we please, on a site that has afforded us that ability, but that doesn't mean that it's worth doing.
DL they can call it what they want....arrogant, troll, pain, etc....its OK when they go nuts and blame Hue, Sashi, Farmer, Manziel etc but if anybody else does it look out....I saw it all during their bold predictions in the summer.....yes their suppose to be predictions but they truly believed it....they were calling out teams like the NYJ, Chic and others like the Browns were perennial playoff teams...little did they know we would be sitting in week 17 at 0-15 and those teams beat em....hell I'm rooting so hard this week and happy Ben, Bell, AB and others aren't playing so I can see one of the worst coaches jump in Lake Erie...not sure why 0-16 wouldnt warrant that since its worse than 1-15 but whatever he wants to do..the funny thing is the guy is supposedly safe...smh
I don't understand why anyone would assume to know better than you what decisions you make. PUre arrogance.
I'm gonna say that to my doctor, next time he tells me to eat better. Where does he get off? You can talk about the substance however you like - curse up a storm, make wild claims, I don't care... I asked you to focus on the substance, and not personal attacks or ego. So far, you've only talked about the latter. Yup, I'm the asshole. I get it. How dare I?
What does any of that nonsense have to do with this unless you think you're a doctor of forums? Don't talk to me about substance and not getting personal. You've gone after SAS with personal attacks on this forum. We call that two faced bitch shit where I grew up. Yup you are the asshole and you keep stepping in it. Keep pretending you're something better because you pretend to be. We see you.
