Where Do We Go From Here?

Discussion in 'Cleveland Browns' started by TopDawg, Oct 2, 2017.

  1. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    I'm not trying at all. If I were, this conversation would have been over yesterday.

    So now you're saying you know what a complete stranger is thinking?

    Is that a fact?
     
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  2. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    You can use it. It's a nice tool.

    It just isn't the bible. Or...actually it is the bible I guess because some people swear by it despite it being mainly bullshit.
     
  3. manosteel9423 Franchise Player Steelers

    I’m using those links because you’ve never given Brown his due as a great receiver. Ever. When PFF said he was the best in the league two years running, did you agree? Be honest.

    Now, you are using PFF to validate your opinion that he’s not a great receiver. Seems contradictory and convenient to me.
     
  4. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

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  5. manosteel9423 Franchise Player Steelers

    I’m using those links because you’ve never given Brown his due as a great receiver. Ever. When PFF said he was the best in the league two years running, did you agree? Be honest.

    Now, you are using PFF to validate your opinion that he’s not a great receiver. Seems contradictory and convenient to me.
     
  6. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    He wasn't.
     
  7. manosteel9423 Franchise Player Steelers

    Stay out of this old man!! :p
     
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  8. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    I can't imagine why truth, common sense, and sound logic is interpreted as hostile, nasty, and negative but apparently it is by some.
     
  9. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

    He's never been a great receiver. Ever. He's been a high-volume receiver. He's the Chad Johnson of the 2010's.
     
  10. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    Right....

    No...I'm saying I read a complete strangers words.....not just one time but multiple times...and made a very obvious observation based off those words.

    It's a fact that what you're attempting to prove here has been a complete failure and you're still trying too hard.
     
  11. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

    Actually... I don't agree with their ranking that he's 30th. Just as I didn't with their ranking him 1st. I believe, if you'll scroll back a few pages, I had him at #7 overall heading into the season. I'd say mid-teens is probably how it's played out this year.
     
  12. manosteel9423 Franchise Player Steelers

    Thats an opinion. One I disagree with. One that PFF also disagreed with for at least two years. So don’t use them to validate your opinion now. If you think they were wrong in 2016 and 2017, what makes them right now?
     
  13. manosteel9423 Franchise Player Steelers

    Fair enough. Again, I think you’re wrong. I think that, as JuJu has said, the rest of the Steelers offense eats off of Brown’s plate. To each his own though.

    Funny, that you called him a high volume receiver yet you are invalidating him because JuJu now gets that volume thanks to so many single coverages generated by ABs doubles and triples.
     
  14. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

    So, not sure why we're talking about last year's rankings to inform this year's successes (again), but...

    Technically, the ranked 29 other quarterbacks ahead of Watson because he was a volatile player. He graded out as 30th. The fellas you mentioned were 9th, 29th, 24th, 23rd, 14th, and 20th respectively.

    It's not like those were your top-graded QBs. Nearly everyone outscored Watson. It is also a review of performance, not a predictive tool to determine future success.
     
  15. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    It's a subjective review of performance.

    It's opinion based and prone to bias.

    It's not quantitative.

    Which is all fine...so long as it doesn't form the basis of your argument. Using it as a tool is great. Pretending it's the end all, be all of player rankings is dumb.

    *The views expressed in this post are opinions*

    **Disclaimer added for the feeble minded**
     
  16. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

    "Triple coverage".
     
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  17. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

    Umm... they all are?

    It's like you're not even reading along with the posts... you're just screeching out your opinion and trying hard as hell to invalidate anyone else's based on (I'm sensing) an inferiority complex?
     
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  18. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    Umm....no they aren't.

    It's actually a superiority complex. And I'm not invalidating your opinion....just simply mocking it.
     
  19. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    BINGO !!!
     
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  20. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    It's hard not to feel superior here. You guys make it really easy for me.
     

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