Pouncey is the perfect example of this. The Steelers ask Pouncey to do things other teams wouldn't dream of asking from their centers. It's the equivalent of calling a 3rd grader a better mathemetician than college senior because the 3rd grader got a better grade on their exam.
Is there a better source of rankings than the Focus? I haven't found anything online that's even close to what they do. Athlon used to do something similar in their magazines but it feels like Pro Football Focus does a much better job.
David here is the problem....they dont know the call made or on fly adjustment that needs to be made...for example if the C, G and OT are sliding left and the other guard and OT are big on big and the center picks up the blitzing LB in the A gap and the guard blocks back and helps w the blitzing LB how do you grade that if you dont know the scheme or protection call?
Just because they are the only ones doing it doesn't mean they are doing it well. How hard would it be to introduce level of difficulty in their evaluation?
Just all blah stuff....there is realistic opinions and complete bias posts....the players are excited, the fans are excited etc....well if I recall they were excited when Hue was first hired as well, every year there is excitement since every team is 0-0....Gregg Williams was hired and all we heard was how the defense will be so much improved and cause massive chaos....well that didnt happen...now they have to face some of the best QBs in the league this year instead of the vast majority of backups they faced last year...good luck
Oh you mean the Patrick Robinson that just won a SB and NO wanted back this year? PJ Williams who is the starting nickel back and Leonard is a rookie who hasnt played a down
We're all guilty of bias posts Stopper especially you anytime an FSU player is involved. Are you the bias police?
Nope and I dont make bias posts about FSU guys...I never was a fan of EJ Manuel....Indy was a wasted pick w Werner playing him at OLB in a 3-4 defense when he was a true DE....yes I make posts about FSU players but who was I wrong about.....their playing great ball in the NFL in the last 3-4 yrs
Their system is crap. It's regular guys watching the game and putting specific grades on each play based on the outcome of the play. For OL play...it's extremely subjective.
Here is the talent in the last 3-4 yrs....which school can say they have had more impact than this group....Telv Smith, Ramsey, Joyner, Cook, Winston, Rhodes, Freeman, Benjamin, Derwin(TBD), Walker, Edwards Jr, Darby, Goldman, etc
It's without question the most difficult aspect of player evaluation. Removing bias from not only players you may like, but from statistics and tendencies that may also be favored is really difficult. Then you have the 'whiplash' effect - I really like this player because of x, y and z, but I may be going to easy on him because of a, b and c, so I better regrade those portions to make sure I'm not showing bias against my bias, lol. It's an awesome conundrum.
Sam Beal: Meet the Best Supplemental Draft Prospect Since Josh Gordon MATT MILLERJULY 10, 2018 B/R Sam Beal knows he won't hear his name called on network television—that's the curse of being picked on July 11 in the NFL supplemental draft—but he's determined to make those who passed on him or doubted him remember his name. Who is Sam Beal? He's the best prospect to enter the league's supplemental draft in a long time. Maybe ever. Let's start with how he got here. Beal was a standout cornerback at Western Michigan after signing as a stud 2-star player on offense and defense out of Ottawa Hills High School in Grand Rapids, Michigan. As a freshman, he played in 12 games before becoming a starter as a sophomore and quickly establishing himself as a ball hawk with eight pass breakups. That 2016 season put Beal on the radar of NFL teams who love the idea of a 6'1" corner with ball skills. His 2017 junior season would be his best. He earned All-MAC second-team honors and made his first career interception (against Sam Darnold). Following the season, many NFL evaluators told agents and media members that Beal was likely a top-100 pick. But he decided to stay in school and finish his degree, something he said no one in his family has ever done. It was a goal he'd set with his mom. "That was a big thing for me," Beal says. "That's why I feel like, you know, it had to be like that." So...what happened? Beal says he had fallen behind in academic credit hours but planned to catch back up in summer school: "So I was back in school, but the NCAA had to actually tell me if I was able to play." With his eligibility not expected to be decided until the end of preseason camp, Beal decided to forgo his senior season and declare for the supplemental draft. He said he could have gone through "the whole camp and the whole process and [the NCAA] could have told me, 'You're not going to play.'" Beal (right) has playmaker written all over him.Mark J. Terrill/Associated Press Unlike most supplemental draft prospects of the last decade, Beal doesn't come with red flags off the field. There are no reported failed drug tests. There are no coaches throwing him under the bus as a bad teammate. Instead, a college kid got behind on some credits and was in danger of losing his eligibility. And now NFL teams are ready to jump on this rare opportunity. Scroll through the NFL's list of former supplemental draft picks and prepare to be underwhelmed. "When has it ever paid off to use a pick in the supplemental draft?" an NFL director of player personnel asked me after I suggested Beal could be a second-round pick. The short answer is rarely, if ever. Josh Gordon is a talented player—maybe one of the top two or three most naturally gifted receivers in the NFL—but his career has been plagued by off-field issues. Terrelle Pryor had a solid season in 2016 at wide receiver after transitioning from quarterback, where he played in college and early in his pro career. But he hasn't exactly set the world on fire. Linebacker Ahmad Brooks, a third-round claim by the Cincinnati Bengals in 2006, had the longest run of consistent play as a supplemental pick, but he never turned into a star. The NFL draft is always a bit of a crapshoot, but uncovering a standout player in the supplemental draft is like finding a needle in a haystack. How will the NFL reconcile Beal's talent with the disappointing performances of past supplemental draft players? It hasn't been easy. "He's obviously talented," one NFL defensive coordinator said when discussing Beal. "Long, flexible, fast. He fits the mold of what we want at outside corner." When talking about his on-field performance, you don't find many negatives. "He's a little light, little thin, but he can add 10 pounds and be fine in press situations," another defensive backs coach said. "You look at his feet and hips and see he's going to be able to cover." Bottom line? He's good, and the NFL knows it, but there is hesitation to use a supplemental pick when so few have excelled coming from that draft. "Listen, he's probably a third-round bid," one director of college scouting predicted, though he would only give a general range when asked where they expect Beal to be picked. "That's a safe spot, and someone will get antsy and not want to lose out on him. Maybe second-round if it's a playoff team." A range is all you'll get from any team because ultimately it's a decision the head coach and general manager will make together—and for most teams, both are on vacation right now. When Beal is picked, he won't get to hear his name called by the commissioner. Instead, his agent will get a phone call from the league office informing him which team claimed his rights. Beal told me he's ready to come in and play catch-up in order to contribute immediately. He said he's "an athlete and is ready to compete and learn right away." Teams see him as pro-ready on film and believe his technique won't need major fixes before he's ready to get on the field. When asked what he thinks makes him pro-ready, Beal said: "The excitement. I don't like fear. Some guys live by fear, but I feel like I don't fear playing at a high level. ... I bring intensity and fire. That's how I feel about it." Whichever team claims him will forfeit a 2019 draft pick of the corresponding round, so where can Beal expect to land? Inside NFL front offices, talk centers around the Buffalo Bills, Cleveland Browns and Kansas City Chiefs.
Breaking: The Oakland Raiders won the lottery and will have the first pick of each round in the 2018 NFL supplemental draft. Followed by the Jets, Giants, Browns, Broncos.
If I'm the Browns I offer a 4th for Beal. Teams are notoriously stingy when the Supplemental Draft comes around.
Usually supplemental draft guys come with baggage. Not really the case with Beal. I don't think a 4th will do it. I'd throw a 3rd at it and hope for the best, but I wouldn't be surprised if a playoff team throws a 2nd rounder. Or if Raiders, Jets or NYG offers a 3rd...
