I've said this before and it continues to be true... Hue Jackson hangs like a heavy, dark cloud over any optimism I feel myself starting to develop or have this offseason. Realistically, we won't see tangible results until 2019 and it will be for a different head coach.
That's because you refuse to believe anything that doesn't match your opinion. My advise is just sit back, see what happens and admit you might, underline "might", be wrong. Continuing your anti-Hue crusade won't accomplish anything.
This is a fair question, but wouldn't is also be fair to think this season could be way different than the last two. We have hired a competent OC that will be handling that aspect of the workload, leaving Hue to have the proper amount of time it takes to actually do the HC job. One might think that would help him improve in that aspect. He admitted last month, it was difficult to have the next play call running through his mind, while also thinking about every play at hand, throw the red flag, find the red flag to throw, whether it is the middle of the first Qtr or the end of a half to use a timeout, etc.. While I am making fun of his in game issues...It would be a giant task for a coach that has never truly learned everything needed to be done by the HC, without another distraction like running the offense. I feel like he can become that HC we need, by handing over the offense to Haley.
The problem is Hue Jackson isn't or wasn't a first-time head coach. He was the play-caller and head coach in Oakland and he hired an offensive coordinator at the time. The same offensive coordinator (Al Saunders) who happens to be on his staff in Cleveland. That can't be used to excuse his decision-making or handling of the team. At the very least, he could have used a coordinator (or group of them) to aid him in that respect. Doug Pederson calls his own plays, too, but relies on input from other folks, has an offensive coordinator, and has proven to be a superior coach, coordinator, play-caller, and developer of talent since 2016 than Hue has.
While I haven't changed the sign-off hashtag, I also haven't been championing his firing. I'm well aware that he won't be replaced until after the 2019 season. (I changed my avatar to Hue... doesn't that help?!) All I'm saying is that I can look at John Dorsey, look at his track record, and think he's a great evaluator of talent and should bring in at least a couple good players. I can look at Highsmith and Wolf, see their track records and say the same. I'm ultra-pumped about Scot McCloughan because I think he's the best talent evaluator in the NFL. I can't say the same for Hue Jackson. I see 1-31, Andy Dalton, and DeShone Kizer. I see blown challenges, mis-timed time outs, mind-boggling play-calls and also a rift he himself caused between coaches and front office. I don't see any hope for him, so sitting here and thinking we'll go from the worst coach in NFL history to the next Bill Belicheck isn't something that's going to happen. I'm resigned to him for 2018 but fully expect (and cannot friggin' wait) until we get a new guy in 2019.
Well, I'm also going to warn you that this team could improve dramatically with the hire of Todd Haley. If they win 7-8 games next year, Hue isn't going anywhere. If Dorsey does his job this off season...that is a real possibility.. So, while you choose to temper your enthusiasm about what HAS transpired this off season so far...all because of Hue Jackson...You might be in for a LONG self imposed distress if you think it is a forgone conclusion he will be gone in 2019. If they win 7 games, Hue stays While I am no where NEAR predicting that happens, until I see what Dorsey does with all these assets, it could happen my friend.
Absolutely not. I have made mention numerous times of Hue's in-game mistakes. I just don't see the need to continue beating the shit out of him. He IS the Head Coach of the Cleveland Browns.
Mmm, you're probably better off keeping that one in the closet and have the good memories that you have now... However...it this guy is on Youtube and has a massive amount of these available on his channel
Follow on Twitter @Jimetrics. He is doing these short ones on the prospects this year but did a draft re-cap last year with more than just the market-share (also used other scores like athleticism). Here's Minnesota's re-cap (Cook is the first one):
His composite grades for players turn out pretty well, barring injuries or substance abuse. He's especially accurate on quarterbacks. To wit, DeShone Kizer's analytics had him as out of the league in four years or less. He didn't have an FBS score for Wentz, but had him as a Pro Bowler based on his HS production. Dak Prescott - All Pro. Top QB from 2017? Deshaun Watson. You won't like who his top guy is this year. Hint: we're taking him #1 overall.
He is the coach, but if it were up to the fans he wouldn't be....We don't have to like the decision to keep him. I'm with SAS all the way on this issue. Hue Jackson doesn't deserve to be our coach, and the stench of his 1-31 record, along with all his bullshit, absolutely hangs over this franchise like a dark cloud.... It doesn't matter that we have a new GM and a ton of draft picks. All people see is 1-31, and Hue is the face of it.
I keep telling you guys... our draft doesn't start until pick #4. We're taking Baker Mayfield. I'll ask again... who in the world throws this much smoke screen at a 6'0" quarterback?
So... I don't see 7-8 wins on this schedule next season, which is savage. I thought we should have that, plus, this year against a schedule that was absolute trash and we lost every game we played. A lot can happen still: we can draft and start Baker Mayfield, sign some big-name free agents, and grab a top-tier running back in the draft and (on paper) fix this team. Great start. But if talent on paper had any bearing on wins, we wouldn't have gone 0-16 last season. The onus is on Hue. And until I see Todd Haley completely retool the offense from both a schematic and tendencies standpoint, I don't have much faith that it's truly his offense. Lastly... the "seven wins" notion. For starters, seven wins would bring Hue to 8-40 (0.167), still well below the marks of Pettine (0.313), Shurmur (0.281), and Chudzinski (0.250). Not only that, but zero to seven wins sounds impressive, until one thinks about 2017 critically and realizes we should have won 4-5 games. Accounting for that, five wins up to seven after an extraordinary influx of talent - free agency and draft - would be cause to fire even a first year head coach. Vance Joseph (5-11) was nearly fired after the Broncos went 9-7 the year before and in fact, it was reported that had it not been players getting involved in the discussion, he would have been let go after only 16 games. Without a playoff berth, Hue Jackson is gone after this season.
If he starts 0-8 (again!), he'll be gone at mid-season. Probably sooner. I don't think he could survive 0-5....As a fan of the game, I try to put myself in the shoes of those that have no real connection to the Cleveland Browns. It would be impossible for me to look at Hue Jackson and seriously think he's going to be around long. That's the nature of football...So I'd just immediately assume same ol Browns...SAS mentioned how his record would look with 7 wins' added. Hell even if Hue Jackson went 16-0 this year, his overall record would look like that of a coach that should be canned...I think it will cause us issues in free agency, because I think naturally people will just be expecting his inevitable firing, and another reset for the Browns....It's what the Browns do. This one just seems SO obvious. Like from a mile away. And I can't for the life of me understand why Haslam is so attached...It's strange. I know this much. Once football season gets here and the games start to count, we will hear about that record ad nauseam...And heaven forbid when he actually adds to the losses...
Some Browns news and other good stuff from Matt Millers notebook: Coming out of Super Bowl week, one rumor I've heard from so many places is that the top four picks in this draft are for sale. The Cleveland Browns wouldn't trade both the first and fourth picks, but they will take calls on moving one of them. The New York Giants (No. 2 pick) and the Indianapolis Colts (No. 3 pick) will also consider trading down. • Regarding the Browns and the first overall pick in the draft, I was told by multiple sources and confirmed with others that general manager John Dorsey would have aggressively shopped the selection if he had pulled off a trade for quarterback Alex Smith. • Free agents Kirk Cousins and Case Keenum will have a major impact on the top six picks in the draft. If Cousins signs with the Denver Broncos or New York Jets, they wouldn't be likely to draft a quarterback early. But what if Keenum signs with the Broncos—would they still draft a quarterback at No. 5 overall? In talking to a Broncos front office member this week, I learned the team likes Keenum, and signing him would allow Denver to go elsewhere in Round 1. • Baltimore Ravens general manager Ozzie Newsome announced he will step down after the 2018 season. This move allows longtime second-in-command Eric DeCosta to assume the general manager job. DeCosta has been near the top of every candidate list I've made for open GM jobs in the last seven years. The Ravens are in good hands with him sticking around to run the team. The biggest difference we might see is fewer Alabama players drafted to Baltimore once Newsome, the former Crimson Tide tight end, is retired. Also this: How good is Notre Dame guard Quenton Nelson? Said one director of player personnel to me this week: "If you want to call him the best player in this class, no one can argue with you, and there's no way he'll bust. As safe as they come." Florida defensive tackle Taven Bryan is an interesting prospect, and he'll undoubtedly dominate the combine based on his athleticism. I'm still lower on him than most because of inconsistent film. Bryan is unstoppable at times but disappears for stretches and seems to only win with speed/strength and never technique or leverage. He's a player I'll be studying a lot more in the next three weeks. • One player I did a deeper dive on this week was Clemson wide receiver Deon Cain, and he's moving back up my board after a midseason fall. Cain has all the tools to be an NFL starter, but his 2017 numbers were disappointing. Put that on the quarterback situation and not Cain. He's a polished route-runner with the goods to be a starter. I'm putting him in Round 2. • LSU cornerback Donte Jackson will burn up the track at the scouting combine in three weeks. After accessing the team's All-22 film, it became clear to me that Jackson is one of the fastest players in this class. I only wish there had been time to see him in person now. As long as everything checks out off the field (injury, character, etc.), Jackson could sneak into Round 1. Now is a good time to announce/remind you that our NFL Draft 400 series will be launching again soon. In it, two assistants and I write scouting reports on the top 400 prospects in the 2018 draft class as well as grade and rank them. Because that work is getting started, it means my rankings are changing frequently. Here's an updated look at the top 50. 1. RB Saquon Barkley, Penn State 2. DB Minkah Fitzpatrick, Alabama 3. OG Quenton Nelson, Notre Dame 4. EDGE Bradley Chubb, North Carolina State 5. QB Sam Darnold, USC 6. QB Josh Rosen, UCLA 7. QB Josh Allen, Wyoming 8. CB Denzel Ward, Ohio State 9. LB Tremaine Edmunds, Virginia Tech 10. LB Roquan Smith, Georgia 11. OT Connor Williams, Texas 12. CB Josh Jackson, Iowa 13. QB Baker Mayfield, Oklahoma 14. WR Calvin Ridley, Alabama 15. RB Derrius Guice, LSU 16. S Derwin James, FSU 17. RB Ronald Jones II, USC 18. LB Rashaan Evans, Alabama 19. DL Maurice Hurst, Michigan 20. RB Sony Michel, Georgia 21. C Billy Price, Ohio State 22. EDGE Harold Landry, Boston College 23. CB Isaiah Oliver, Colorado 24. OT Mike McGlinchey, Notre Dame 25. WR Courtland Sutton, SMU 26. DL Da'Ron Payne, Alabama 27. EDGE Marcus Davenport, UTSA 28. DL Vita Vea, Washington 29. C James Daniels, Iowa 30. OG Isaiah Wynn, Georgia 31. EDGE Arden Key, LSU 32. LB Malik Jefferson, Texas 33. S Ronnie Harrison, Alabama 34. EDGE Sam Hubbard, Ohio State 35. CB Carlton Davis, Auburn 36. OT Kolton Miller, UCLA 37. TE Dallas Goedert, South Dakota State 38. DL Harrison Phillips, Stanford 39. DL Derrick Nnadi, FSU 40. WR Christian Kirk, Texas A&M 41. LB Leighton Vander Esch, Boise State 42. WR D.J. Moore, Maryland 43. S Justin Reid, Stanford 44. TE Mark Andrews, Oklahoma 45. OG Will Hernandez, UTEP 46. CB Mike Hughes, UCF 47. CB Jaire Alexander, Louisville 48. CB Donte Jackson, LSU 49. S Kyzir White, West Virginia 50. WR James Washington, Oklahoma State
We lost one of the biggest Browns fans of all time today.... My mother passed away after suffering a massive stroke last week. She was 74....She fought hard at OSU (James) Hospital all week, but there wasn't anything they could do... I will be away for a bit, but I'll return soon.... Just know this: She LOVED the Cleveland Browns....Don't be shocked if the Browns surprise the world this year. That's all I got.
