I don't know anything about those people, conservative radio has been discrediting them for years now. All the characteristics that Al was describing them as, you definitely could apply it to trump, which is ironic as it is hypocritical.
The point I'm making is that you cannot, in good conscience, make massive generalizations about a group of people whose political, religious or sexual preferences don't jive with yours.
You don’t see god...you see nature. You can’t prove nature is god because you can’t prove god. I might be a lot of things but ignorant has never been one of them. I’ve taken the time in my life to learn theology because I decided I was an atheist. I’ve never simply accepted what I was spoon fed...something the great majority of religious people can’t say. I’m not going to engage in your needless insults on this thread because it’s not hidden the way the trump thread is and doesn’t need to be a dumpster fire as there has been some really good discussion here.
When exactly did being religious become synonymous with being strictly moral? One, you don’t need to be religious to be moral. Two, plenty and I do mean plenty of so called religious people have committed severe ammoral crimes throughout history. The conservative right side of the political spectrum does not own a monopoly on morality. Your views are hypocritical, antiquated, wrong, and reek of ridiculous right wing bias.
The two things are mutually exclusive. Hollywood is populated with a huge percentage of cretins and they have been exposed as such. For decades people have fawned over them because of their fame and lifestyle. Its a joke really. My belief in God is a great base of my belief system. God made the world and mankind and gave him free will. Mankind can also sin and I am a sinner struggling like any other flawed human being. If you don't like my response to BWWs attack on my faith, that is fine with me. He attacks me and mocks me all of the time as the atheist and asshole that he is. He gets personal all of the time even to the point of wanting to have a "reckoning" with me. So I respond in kind to his crap.
AH. This coming from a person whose judgement about people is so blatantly wrong. Your friendship and protection of BWW disqualifies you to make any kind of evaluation of people. Worry about your own weaknesses before criticizing mine. I know that I am not perfect. I know that I am a sinner. You just made a statement about religion being hypocritical which by extent must mean that those who do not believe in God or religion are somehow superior. That is bullshit.
Trump is a sinner but he is a good president. Trump is an asshole but understands how the world works and what people are. His actions on the economy is great. His freeing up the military to tamp down ISIS is great. His appointments of federal judgeships is as promised. IT is funny to me that liberals don't seem to remember the hound dog presidents that they had in their history. Guys like John Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson, and Bubba Clinton himself. All hound dogs as people who marginalized women and were sexual predators. I care not that Trump is flawed. All politicians and people in general are flawed. I care if what they do helps the American people. FOr all of his character flaws, Bubba Clinton was a pragmatist who got some good things done as a president. Same thing with John Kennedy. THen you have someone like Gerald Ford or Jimmy Carter who were very good people but lousy presidents. I almost would put Obama in that category but his actions to try and take down his successor are clearly criminal and I hope they end up prosecuting him for it.
I think that it is safe to say that by their actions and statements, most of Hollywood aren't very intelligent or credible. THey get pampered and adored by people because of their looks and money or both. But that appears to be changing across the country. The ratings for their awards shows are very much down and a lot of them have been outed for their evil doings and the hypocritical nature that they have. THey've been exposed as cowards for their failure to act on the sexual attacks on both women and men that was known for years. Streep is a great example of a coward of a person who described herself as a champion of women but failed to take Fat Harvey and company on. Why was that? SHe had the power and money to do some good and clean up her industry but didn't say or do shit. Others the same. Just hypocritical cowards all.
This is what I'm talking about Al. You make these broad sweeping statements that show blatant intolerance, hatred and judgements all the time. I was raised in the Catholic church and this ^ is not the way that God expects his children to act. Why do you set yourself apart from other people who follow Christ? Why is it okay for you to make massive judgements on people who you don't know and who's lives you've never experienced? That's what I'm wondering about. If you are questioned about your comments here your 'go-to' is always a personal attack. You profess to be a christian but your words here prove that you are not. It's the hypocrisy and emptiness of religion that you show here. Why does my friendship with Bww trigger you so much? Because I respect the way he thinks and the way he communicates here? Why does that have anything to do with you? That's your take on it Al, but it is not what I said. That's what YOU have read into my statement. The subject here is #METOO. It's not about Bww or me or anyone else. Discuss the subject, not the participants. That's how to have a mature discussion.
Of course you can. Conscience has nothing to do with it. To deny that Hollywood contains a huge group of liberals is crap. You defend them because you believe in what they believe in also for at least the most part.
You didn't understand what I said, did you? This is the end of the discussion for me. I'm not going to participate in a discussion that is turning into personal attacks by Al on anyone who doesn't share his point of view. If someone wants to step in and help restore this thread back to its original premise I'll come back. I'm not interested in muddling through the Al Show anymore.
If you don't like my response to BWWs attack on my faith, that is fine with me. He attacks me and mocks me all of the time as the atheist and asshole that he is. He gets personal all of the time even to the point of wanting to have a "reckoning" with me. So I respond in kind to his crap. You do an equal amount of attacking if not more....it’s sadly pathetic that you still pretend to be the innocent one. You get just as personal and you were the one to initiate the threats of real life physical violence....yet still I sit here in Durango waiting for you to ring my doorbell. You rhetoric is sad and tired.
Spare me the self adoration of yourself. You are the one who went out of his way to insult my belief in God. As for your lame argument that I can't prove God, you cannot prove that God does not exist. I think that most atheists are people who have some exalted opinion of themselves as being smarter than everyone else and that they basically consider themselves to be "gods". IT is clear by what comes out of your mouth that you are in that category of losers. Even this last post of yours shows your inclination as being somehow superior to people of religion.
I’m on board with this. I much rather go back on topic than read Als ramblings and watch him turn himself into a victim yet again and then go on rants on how he’s treated unfairly. Moving on....
Oh bullshit. Grow up. I basically said that Hollywood is 99% liberal and you are liberal. That isn't anykind of "personal attack whatsoever. YOu are the one who called religious believing people hypocrites which supports what BWW always states. That isn't an attack on me? Why don't you try really hard to be objective about your own beliefs and who you support and who you attack.