The new DPL.

Discussion in 'Cleveland Browns' started by bluez, Apr 3, 2013.

  1. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    Not unless you have 53 roster guys in on the tank job as well...Remember, in the long storied history of the NFL, there has only been 1 0-16 team. The Buccs may have met that criteria if they had enough games on the schedule...But any given professional football team, has found a way to win at least 1 NFL game, no matter how bad they are perceived to be.

    This team was a Robbie Gould away from having at least 2 wins on the season..which would have cost the Browns Garrett.

    ALL that said, and the "tank" job was more the product of HOW this front office is rebuilding, rather than purposely losing in order to obtain a higher draft pick.

    I don't think they would have batted an eye if that young roster would have won 5 games instead of 1..the only difference is that they might have traded down earlier to obtain more future ammo.
     
  2. Duff_Beer_Doug Franchise Player Browns Indians C&D Club

    That right there.....

    *OK*
     
  3. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

    Stick a fork in the Cavs . well at least they won one championship .

    Lets Gooo Tribe . set the table for the Browns to follow .
     
  4. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    Browns just waived DB Tyvis Powell.
     
  5. TopDawg Legend

    Not so fast on the Cavs, Bluez...No sweep! One game at a time, and the Cavs might just get back in it...The series should be tied at 2-2 right now. We blew it at the end of game 3, and now we gotta dig out...Not impossible though. That record setting game 4 showed there is no quit, and the pressure is on GS.... It won't be an easy task closing out a King James and the Cavs...If Cleveland can somehow maintain a shooting percentage anywhere close to what was witnissed in game 4, an epic comeback for the ages is possible...IMO, the key is Love and J.R hitting their perimeter shots. When that happens, James and Kyrie dominate.
     
  6. TopDawg Legend

    Ultimately, I do agree that game 3 will likely haunt the Cavs. The next game could very well be the last. I'm just not ready to say that "it's over". I learned my lesson on that last year....The Warriors are a great team, and they have Cleveland on the ropes. But if the Cavs can somehow go back to Oakland and steal game 5 (again), then this NBA Finals is gonna get REALLY interesting...

    LeBron and Kyrie are absolutely amazing. Without question, they are two of the greatest players that have ever laced em' up in the NBA....As long as there is a pulse, don't count em' out.
     
  7. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

    Then hours later he threw out the first pitch t the Tribe game ..Couldn't they have waited ? its not like they needed a immediate roster slot as they have 4 open .
     
  8. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

    It did renew my faith .

    One game at a time !
     
  9. TopDawg Legend

    That did suck, but was just really unfortunate timing. Powell's agent and the Cleveland Indians had that set up, but the Browns knew nothing about it....Once they became aware, the Browns tried to retract it, but it was too late. The paperwork had already been sent in to NFL offices...

    It comes across as a classless move, but the Browns are innocent on this one...It was a fluke. Incredibly bad timing that was completely unintended...
    http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2017/6/10/15773406/browns-waive-s-tyvis-powell-with-unfortunate-timing
     
  10. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

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    You don't say...
     
  11. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    David Njoku signed, sealed and delivered.
     
  12. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

    Is Browns Foundation In Place?

    Jared Mueller
    Yesterday at 9:39 AM

    Going into their second season, has the new regime set a foundation for the Browns?
    With every professional organization, there is some kind of foundation that must be laid. Those that do not, fail.
    In sports, this is also true and might even be in a much stronger way.
    The Patriots are built around Bill Belichick, Tom Brady, veterans near the end of their contracts and very good coaches.
    The Packers don't spend money on free agents, have had Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers behind center and are not flashy about what they do.
    The Steelers have modeled consistency at the head coaching position, try to build a strong defense and are willing to take some risks.
    The Bengals tend to be cheap, only retaining the absolute best players and take risks on character players.
    For every team, there are players, coaches, concepts and ideas that lay the foundation for who they are. For good teams, it often seems like a player just perfectly "fits" because of the foundation. Sometimes that is because the player fits the culture and ideals of the organization, sometimes it is because the player fits the coach and sometimes it is because the player fits with and around the foundational players on the team.
    The Browns haven't had any of that. The closest they have come is Joe Thomas and the fan base. Thomas has been the anchor at left tackle when everything else around him has come and gone. The fan base has been the same for even longer.
    When you talk about the teams noted above, as just a few examples, those are the things thought of very quickly. For the Browns it is the fans, Thomas and then players from the past, if you are looking for the positives. If looking for the negatives, it is all the changes, all the busts and all the jokes.
    What about today?
    Minicamp just ended and fans are looking forward to Training Camp. Has this regime set a foundation? Is there something that can certainly be said about this team? Or, at least, can we look forward with the expectation of what that foundation will be?
    Starting in the Front Office, the Browns have laid the foundation of who they are. They value picks, love to trade, value young players with upside, good character and who produced in college and the Front Office is aggressive in moving toward what they want.
    Sashi Brown, Andrew Berry and Paul DePodesta may have to deal with the "analytics" moniker for a long time but they've shown that they have a plan in place and are aggressive in achieving that plan. They have added 24 players via the NFL Draft and plenty more in Undrafted Free Agency. They also have six extra picks in the 2018 NFL Draft having added a 1st, two 2nds, a 4th, a 6th and a 7th.
    The coaching staff matches the aggressive nature of the Front Office. While they might be more "old school" football guys than analytics, HC Hue Jackson and DC Gregg Williams have instilled an aggressive mindset within their team. The personalities of the two main coaches is strong and comes out in everything they do. They match, which was a big reason Jackson fired Ray Horton after one season to bring in Williams.
    The expectation is that the schemes on the field will match their personalities. Last year's offense was a little too tricky while Jackson dealt with 6 quarterbacks taking snaps, a shuffled/limited offensive line and a ton of young players. This year, with a?revamped line, young talent developing and, hopefully, some stability at QB, expect Jackson to open it up.
    On defense, there is only so much you can do schematically. When you get aggressive in one area, it opens up another. Williams expects to be aggressive but needs the players to do it. If not, unlike his personality, Williams may need to be more selective with his aggressive approach, much like Jackson was on offense last year.
    On the field, the Browns have added all those young players with talent and upside and now need to see them start to produce. Young guys like?Emmanuel Ogbah?and?Danny Shelton?started to shine last year. TE?Seth DeValve?and WR?Corey Coleman?showed flashes. Young veterans?Christian Kirksey,?Joel Bitonio?and?Jamie Collins?all have been stellar and all signed new contracts this off-season. Veteran additions on offense,?Kenny Britt,?Kevin Zeitler?and?J.C. Tretter, are expected to help big time.
    The quarterback position is always the main focus. Few QBs look great early but fans seem to want immediate answers there. Even Carson Wentz had a ton of struggles but, since he started off strong, fans are already sold that he is going to be great. Last year,?Cody Kessler?looked much better than many, including this writer, thought he would. He got banged around, struggled with downfield passing and dropped his eyes toward the rush too much but was accurate and showed signs of upside.
    Could Kessler develop into Andy Dalton?
    This year, the Browns drafted?DeShone Kizer?in the 2nd Round after three other teams moved up, giving up quite a bit in draft capital, to pick other QBs. Kizer has all the size, arm, measurables that fans want. He also had a lot of issues at Notre Dame with fundamentals and was not in a system that makes for an easy transition to the pros. As a 2nd rounder, Kizer has little pressure to produce right away but many compare his physical tools to Andrew Luck. Unfortunately, playing QB isn't just about physical tools (Jamarcus Russell would be the best ever if that was true).
    Between Kessler and Kizer, the most important position on the field has hope.
    Taking a quick peak at the different position on the depth chart shows a team loaded with hope as well. The offensive line is solid to great at 4 positions with the hope of 3rd Rounder?Shon Coleman?to lock down the 5th.
    Britt and Coleman are joined by?Ricardo Louis?and?Rashard Higgins?in a WR group that could excel greatly. DeValve and rookie 1st Rounder?David Njoku?give fans high hopes of matchup nightmares at tight end while running backs?Isaiah Crowell?and?Duke Johnson?can handle the load at running back.
    The defensive front 4 has been greatly upgraded. Ogbah, Carl Nassib?and?Tyrone Holmes?has been joined by?Myles Garrett,?Larry Ogunjobi?and?Caleb Brantley. That doesn't include veterans?Desmond Bryant,?Nate Orchard?and?Xavier Cooper?who could all be fighting for roster spots after being considered foundation pieces just a few seasons ago.
    At linebacker, Kirksey and Collins will be the only linebackers on the field for about 80% of the time but Williams' system could use rookie?Jabrill Peppers,?Calvin Pryor?or?Joe Schobert?at times as the third 'backer.
    The secondary depends a lot on?Joe Haden?returning to a steady, quality form. Peppers is expected to anchor the backend while?Jamar Taylor?is settled in as the nickelback. Can?Briean Boddy-Calhoun?be a quality #2? Who steps up to start at Free Safety are the team's biggest questions after the quarterback one.
    Even the special teams looks upgraded with the best kicker in the Draft,?Zane Gonzalez,?competing with?Cody Parkey.
    Will it all work? Will the young, promising talent continue to develop? Will any of it matter if Kessler or Kizer doesn't develop into a Top 20 level QB? Will the Front Office or coaching staff be given enough time to see their vision out?
    A lot of questions to be answered but for now a foundation is forming: Draft picks, trades, young talent from the Front Office. Aggressiveness from the coaches. Physical freaks with upside who produced in college, with a good mix of young, talented veterans on the field.
    That is a foundation we can get behind!
     
  13. Dogside18 Franchise Player Browns

    Doing a training module at work and the 3 names given to me as fictional employees is Sammy Newsome, Ozzie Sipe, and Susan Byner.

    Someone is a Browns fan!
     
  14. Dogside18 Franchise Player Browns

    now: Marty Cousineau, Jack Quinn, Pat Rucker, Biren Graham.

    Surely this isn't a coincidence?

    :: UPDATE::

    now, the "big boss" in this scenario is Ray Lewis.

    my employees have to think I've fallen off my rocker..I'm just busting up laughing now.

    AAAAAAND now it talks about Sammy and Ray Lewis making out.

    Someone taking some stabs at Ray Ray. Pun intended.

    WTH...Larry Kosar is an alcoholic.
     
  15. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

    The time Hue Jackson caused an international incident in London
    12:45 PM ET

    Pat McManamon
    ESPN Staff Writer

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    As ESPN recalls the halcyon (and wacky) days of NFL Europe, Cleveland Browns coach Hue Jackson remembers being a part of it -- in a way he'd rather forget.
    Jackson caused an international incident at Heathrow Airport in 1991 when he left video equipment in a suitcase in an airport gift shop. This was before the high-security times that followed 9/11, but in Europe, an unattended package was serious cause for concern because of an IRA bombing campaign in the city.
    "They shut down half of the airport because of me," a wide-eyed Jackson said.
    Jackson was in London coaching with the London Monarchs, who won the initial World Bowl. He recalled a staff that included Larry Kennan as the head coach and had former Browns and present Bucs offensive line coach George Warhop as an assistant. Jaguars coach Doug Marrone was the fullback. Jackson was between stints at Cal-State Fullerton and Arizona State at that point of his coaching career. He went to London at the invitation of Kennan to be the receivers, running backs and special teams coach.
    "That was a great time," Jackson said. "Playing in Wembley Stadium. Living in Bushey. We stayed in dorms. It was my first experience being in London."
    And the Monarchs won the first championship, which topped it off.
    He still shakes his head at leaving his case in the airport shop, unattended.
    "When I went back to get it, there were all these uniformed police in there, and I'm thinking somebody's in there robbing the place," Jackson said. "No, it was because I was going back to get my case. I thought it'd be cool. They think it was a bomb. We're getting ready to fly to the States because when you leave, you go for three weeks. So Coach Jackson is the knucklehead that left his media case in the store."
    There was no doubt that police took the situation seriously.
    "I was buying something and just forgot it," Jackson said. "So everybody thought it was a bomb. And they weren't going to give it back to me and I had to beg to get it back. Apologize pro-fuse-ly. They could have taken me in.
    "I was scared."
     
  16. Duff_Beer_Doug Franchise Player Browns Indians C&D Club

    Toward the end of the Sunday service, the Minister asked, ?How many of you have forgiven your enemies??

    80% held up their hands.

    The Minister then repeated his question. All responded this time, except one man, Walter Barnes, who attended church only when the weather was bad.

    ?Mr. Barnes, it?s obviously not a good morning for golf. It?s good to see you here today. Are you not willing to forgive your enemies??

    ?I don?t have any,? he replied gruffly.

    ?Mr. Barnes, that is very unusual. How old are you??

    ?Ninety-eight,? he replied. The congregation stood up and clapped their hands.

    ?Oh, Mr. Barnes, would you please come down in front and tell us all how a person can live ninety-eight years and not have an enemy in the world??

    The old golfer tottered down the aisle, stopped in front of the pulpit, turned around, faced the congregation, and said simply, ?I outlived all them azzholes?, and he calmly returned to his seat.
     
  17. Duff_Beer_Doug Franchise Player Browns Indians C&D Club

    Hellooooo..........anyone home?





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    Guess I'll just wait here by myself.........
     
  18. Duff_Beer_Doug Franchise Player Browns Indians C&D Club

    Well, I'm getting a wee bit tired sitting here and drinking all the DPL beers........


    Think I'll find some place to lay down and take a nap............




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  19. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    lol, it has been pretty darn quiet in here..
     
  20. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    I Was reading a click-bait article the other day about "if you could bring back any player from your team's history", etc.

    Thought I would pose the same question here. Only I'm going to ask you which TWO players you would bring back. One for the offense and one for the defense.

    Here's my two;

    O = Otto Graham
    D = Eric Turner

    Have at it . . .
     

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