He's not a GM stopper...He can only work with what he's got. Word is, he worked wonders for Flacco...With the Raiders he had Jason Campbell playing great and at 7-3 for crying out loud, until he got hurt and it went to shit...
im not saying he's the GM but some people are making him out to be some QB genius and I havnt seen his name linked to any big name QB
Ok, well now, like many of these Browns threads, we are just goin in circles...As SAS pointed out, Hue has never had the opportunity to work with a truly elite talent. I understand what you are sayin. Just look at who we have had here since 1999...it's freaking mind numbing....1999 - Chris Palmer/Tony Sparano, 2001-03 - Bruce Arians, 2004- Terry Robiskie, 2006- Jeff Davidson, 2007-09 Rob Chudzinski, 2011 (my personal fave) Pat Shurmur, 2012- Brad Childress, 2013 - Norv Turner, 2014- Kyle Shanahan.... Turner, Shanny and Arians really stand out, but clearly, a coach can only do so much....
Just couldn't get into college hoops this year at all...outside of the draft; I'm looking forward to this more than anything:
This is going to be the draft that Browns fans have waited way too long for....Take it with a grain of salt, I know I'm the king of "offseason optimism", but this truly feels different. I like the way our "think tank" front office is going about it's business this year...Hated losing Pryor, but IMO, that was on him...Our offer included $17m guaranteed..He decided to gamble on himself... Are we interested in Watson? Who knows? Our main brass skips his pro day, but then sets up private workout...Do they not value pro day? Is it just posturing? I have no idea. Sashi is playin the game....It's refreshing to see that the Browns are difficult to read...That's my opinion anyway...The days of the Cleveland Browns being the most transparent team are over... Just sayin. The draft is among my favorite events, and I've always followed closely. Usually at this point, if the team picking #1 is in the QB market, we have a general idea of how they see the prospects....Not the case with these guys. At least that's my take...Lots of chatter about them moving up in the draft from #12 to get their QB, but I'm not convinced at all that they will take ANY of these guys, even if they fall to #12 OR #33..?? Moneyball doesn't have much credibility across the NFL landscape yet, but I'm certain it's coming...The Browns are on the move. WOOF! Gotta believe...if not, why do this?
I heard a great line the other day when someone was talking about the Browns. It was something to the affect of "the Browns arent playing moneyball theyre merely acting as freethinkers i stead of trying to figure out how to do what every other team does the same way they do it." Analytics and moneyball are generally used in football discussions as a 4 letter word. All analytics is quantifying raw data into other data sets to use to evaluate. If you break it down, moneyball is basically using data to make a sound decision. I really like what the team is doing too, TD. Im still looking forward to the next move. Anyone have any good rumors?
Anybody recognize this prospect from early 90's? The over-sized shoulder pads and the neck roll kind of give it away...I know he's one of Bluez's all time faves...One of the hardest hitters this league has seen.. - Receivers were really flirting with disaster when they roamed into his area of the field... - Drafted #2 overall...To this day, the highest a Safety was ever picked...
Here's my best: Not a rumor, but a couple days ago, Browns held private workout with Arizona State Kicker, Zane Gonzalez... Also...Sashi likes the Beaver! (lol! i had to say it) - Oregon State, OG - Sean Harlow has a planned visit to Berea, according to SB Nation... The Cleveland Browns may have invested heavily in their offensive line during free agency, but that doesn?t mean they are going to ignore the position in this year?s draft. According to Dane Bruglar of CBS Sports, the Browns have a visit set up in the coming days with Oregon State OG/C Sean Harlow. Bruglar says, lot's of NFL interest in Harlow...
Much of who Davis is as a coach is influenced by his father. ?He taught history and he used to tell me all the time, ?If you are going to be a coach, you got to be a great teacher,? ? he said. ?? He said, ?Every kid on your football team is going to be different. You got to figure, ?How do you relate?? ? ?Stabbed in the back? Along with numerous peaks, Davis? coaching career also has seen its share of valleys. He doesn?t hide the disappointment he still feels from his one NFL head-coaching opportunity. ?I left a great great job (at Miami) to go to Cleveland to work for Carmen Policy, who had won four Super Bowls, and Al Lerner,? Davis said. ?We go to the playoffs my second year, Al Lerner dies of brain cancer and the son (Randy Lerner) takes over and fires Carmen ? complete culture change. ?The son tells me, ?We?re no longer doing this my dad?s way.? His father told me, ?You got 10 years to turn this franchise around.? The son says, ?We?re not doing one thing the way that my father did.? ?We just went to the playoffs six weeks ago. He says, ?You?re $33 million over the salary cap; you got five weeks to get under.? The only people that you can cut to get under the salary cap are the guys that can play. ? Who were the most pissed off (players)? The kids that had to stay, not the guys that lost their job. The kids that had to stay because they?re like, ?We?re going back to being like an expansion franchise; we got no chance of winning.? ?(Randy Lerner) ended up screwing it up and sold the team after he fired five more head coaches.? Davis resigned near the end of the 2004 season, then became coach at North Carolina following the 2006 season. His tenure at UNC came to a jarring end in July 2011 despite being officially exonerated of any wrongdoing related to NCAA violations. ?It tarnished 37 years of everything that I had ever did, that I had, that I was proud of,? Davis said. ?We did things the right way every place ? cleaning up the Miami program, rebuilding the (Dallas) Cowboys, rebuilding Oklahoma State (as an assistant) ? and to sit there and get blamed for something that now, 10 investigations later, they found out that not only did I not have anything to do with it, it was going on for 15 years before I ever got there. ? ?It is what it is, but I have faith and I believe this with all my heart: God has a plan for everybody and nothing happens by accident. Nothing. When bad things come, it?s like, ?What?s God want me to learn from this?? ? Davis had offers to return to coaching before FIU, but none felt right. ?Almost every one of them (job offers), something they would say made me go, ?Not taking it,?? Davis said. ?Might be the governor of one state called me, ?Will you please come and take this job?? He says, ?You can come,? and he says, ?You can leave after one year. It will be OK.? ?I?m sitting there and I?m going, ?I have got to sell my soul to kids in a living room to come and play for me knowing that in nine months I?m jumping ship, I can?t do that.? When somebody would offer me a job, there would always be something that would be just completely contrary to what I believe that coaching is for and why you do it. Whether it was academics, money or whatever it was, there was always something that would be a death blow.
E ROCK ..The last player jersey I bought . a true enforcer and a class act on & off the field . he would have WR tip toeing alligator arming passes . One of my all time favorites for sure .I still wear my torn worn Turner jersey . RIP E ROCK .
?Stabbed in the back? Along with numerous peaks, Davis? coaching career also has seen its share of valleys. He doesn?t hide the disappointment he still feels from his one NFL head-coaching opportunity. ?I left a great great job (at Miami) to go to Cleveland to work for Carmen Policy, who had won four Super Bowls, and Al Lerner,? Davis said. ?We go to the playoffs my second year, Al Lerner dies of brain cancer and the son (Randy Lerner) takes over and fires Carmen ? complete culture change. ?The son tells me, ?We?re no longer doing this my dad?s way.? His father told me, ?You got 10 years to turn this franchise around.? The son says, ?We?re not doing one thing the way that my father did.? ?We just went to the playoffs six weeks ago. He says, ?You?re $33 million over the salary cap; you got five weeks to get under.? The only people that you can cut to get under the salary cap are the guys that can play. ? Who were the most pissed off (players)? The kids that had to stay, not the guys that lost their job. The kids that had to stay because they?re like, ?We?re going back to being like an expansion franchise; we got no chance of winning.? ?(Randy Lerner) ended up screwing it up and sold the team after he fired five more head coaches.? Davis resigned near the end of the 2004 season *ROSE*
Here's another interesting one... I know we have discussed many TE's on these threads, heading toward the draft, but I'm fairly certain nobody has mentioned this guy: According to Tony Pauline from SB Nation; Cleveland Browns are showing some interest in tight end Andrey Avgi out of Western Oregon Avgi, who played four year of basketball at Western Oregon and spent just two on the gridiron, measured 6'5"/263 pounds, completed 17 reps on the bench, touched 35.5 inches in the vertical jump and 10-foot-2 in the broad. His forty timed 4.77s, while the short shuttle clocked 4.12s and three cone 6.90s. Avgi is an intriguing prospect as he?s a talented athlete with terrific size. He met with the Miami Dolphins on Thursday night and is drawing interest from the Cleveland Browns.
Josh Cribbs officially retires as a Brown Fred Greetham Yesterday at 4:58 PM Josh Cribbs announced that he has officially filed his retirement papers with the NFL BEREA, Ohio--One of the Browns most productive special teams players in franchise history officially retired from the NFL as a member of the Browns. Josh Cribbs, who signed with the Browns as an undrafted free agent from Kent State in 2005 had 13,488 career return yards. He is tied for third in the all-time history of the NFL and was named to the NFL's All-Decade team for the 2,000's. Cribbs played eight seasons with the Browns. HIs last with the team was in 2012. He also spent time with the Jets, Raiders and last played in the NFL with the Colts in 2015. Cribbs is the Browns' franchise record-holder for return yardage, as well as returns for touchdowns. In addition, Cribbs holds nine other records. Cribbs was a three-time Pro Bowl player.
Reflecting on Cribbs, his contributions to the franchise, and his place in Browns' history, I thought about the players that have come through since the re-birth (1999) and was wondering what an "All-Expansion" team would look like. Here's my best guess. QB: Tim Couch (1999 - 2003) RB: Peyton Hillis (2010 - 2011) FB: Lawrence Vickers (2006 - 2010) WR: Josh Gordon (2012 - present) WR: Braylon Edwards (2005 - 2008) TE: Kellen Winslow Jr. (2004 - 2008) LT: Joe Thomas (2007 - present) LG: Eric Steinbach (2007 - 2010) C: Alex Mack (2009 - 2015) RG: John Greco (2011 - present) RT: Ryan Tucker (2002 - 2008) LDE: Shaun Rogers (2008 - 2011) NT: Ahtyba Rubin (2008 - 2014) RDE: Orpheus Roye (2000 - 2007) LOLB: Jabaal Sheard (2011 - 2014) ILB: Andra Davis (2002 - 2008) ILB: D'Qwell Jackson (2006 - 2013) ROLB: Kamerion Wimbley (2006 - 2009) CB: Joe Haden (2010 - present) CB: Anthony Henry (2001 - 2004) FS: Earl Little (2000 - 2003) SS: Sean Jones (2005 - 2008) K: Phil Dawson (1999 - 2012) P: Dave Zastudil (2006 - 2009) KR/PR: Josh Cribbs (2005 - 2012) Players in bold are likely the only uncontested spots.
