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Discussion in 'Cleveland Browns' started by bluez, Apr 3, 2013.

  1. TopDawg Legend

    It's amazing to me that we were able to get anything out of Justin Gilbert....Of all teams, I still can't believe it was Pittsburgh that traded us a draft pick for him... :lol:

    Justin Gilbert and Johnny Manziel! Has any team ever botched a first round worse than that??? Ray Farmer will NEVER live that down...
     
  2. beachbum M.V.P. Manager Steelers

    Obviously it didn't work out but the pick is in 2018.
     
  3. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    I stand corrected . . . 2018 6th round pick.

    OBTW: How's Shamarko Thomas working out?
     
  4. beachbum M.V.P. Manager Steelers

    For a 4th round pick? Better than most.
     
  5. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

    Totally.

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  6. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    And so it starts . . .

    The Browns released QB Josh McCown and DB Tramon Williams.

    As a result - the average of the roster dropped by 10 years. :lol:
     
  7. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    I really hope if there is mutual interest that McCown gets an opportunity to return as the quarterbacks coach or an assistant.
     
  8. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    According to the article, Hue Jackson told McCown there will always be a spot on his coaching staff for him.
     
  9. He wants 2 keep playing right now
     
  10. beachbum M.V.P. Manager Steelers

    The average NFL career (for players drafted in any round) is 3.3 years. So by that standard he has already exceeded most NFL players. Another study I read stated 4th round picks had about a 37% chance of being on the roster in Year 4 and a 17% chance of being on the roster in Year 5. Shamarko was a valuable special teams player so there's a chance he's around next year too.

    I don't even know why we're talking about Shamarko but I was asked a question and I gave an appropriate answer.
     
  11. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

    Just yankin' 'yer chain, beach.

    #CalmDown

    :p
     
  12. kendawg Guest

    McKown gone. Crap.

    I know, I know, he wasn't the second coming or anything close to that, but I really wanted him to stay to coach and mentor the QB or QBs we bring in.

    Given the NFL's lack of decent QBs, he'll probably get picked up and help some other team to raise a young QB. Well best of luck to him, a big thank you for the guts, the discipline, leadership, and example he set for many of our young players in the few years he wore the colors for Cleveland.

    So RGIII stays. Sigh.....
     
  13. kendawg Guest

    While we're on the issue: I really don't want Garapolo. I'll be OK with him going elsewhere and succeeding, but don't want to be fooled into thinking he is the answer. Frankly if he's the answer the question is why cut McCown.

    I'd rather they picked two QBs in the draft. I'd rather they roll the dice. If the evil empire is willing to give him up, with Brady hitting 40, I've got to believe Belichek isn't that sold on him either. Hoyer II isn't my idea of a solution.
     
  14. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

    3 Reasons Cap Space Doesn't Matter for the Cleveland Browns

    Jared Mueller
    7:42 PM

    The Browns have over $100 million dollars in cap space and it may not matter at all.
    The?Cleveland Browns?mostly sat out free agency last season. They lost their top 4 free agents, leading to the expectation of 4 compensatory picks this season, and their signings were far from impactful.
    This off-season, after going 1-15, many Browns fans expect the team to be far more active in free agency. They have started off well by re-signing?Jamie Collins, reportedly are in talks with both?Terrelle Pryor?and?Isaiah Crowell?and have made statements that lend toward spending money this off-season.
    There are also quite a few talented players in free agency that have fans getting excited about the chance to see them in the orange and brown (terrible uniforms) next season.
    Sadly, this is where this normally very optimistic writer has to throw some cold water on those hopes.
    3 Reasons the Browns Cap Space Doesn't Matter
    1. Cleveland Is Not a Destination
    While Head Coach Hue Jackson is likely to draw player's attention, Cleveland isn't a destination. This isn't a conversation about the city, the fans or the coaching staff. That the Browns have been in constant turnover and been the place where careers have, seemingly, gone to die, is problematic.
    Free agents have to think about where they are going to be for the next few years and whether those bringing them in will be around. Signing to play for Hue may appeal to some but the possibility of 2 or even 3 coaches during a 4 or 5-year contract is scary.?
    Even if all of that wasn't true, signing on to a team that was 1-15 is a hard sell. While the Browns have set their direction and bought into it, selling free agents on a team that barely won a game is difficult.
    Especially when...
    2. Over $1 Billion In Cap Space Available in the NFL
    While the Browns lead the way with over $100 million the rest of the NFL has another $1.1 billion to spend. So, while the Browns have a huge amount of money so do many other teams. 18 teams currently have over $30 million in cap space and many of them have a longer history of winning, more stability and can still pay free agents a ton of money.
    While the free agent class has come very interesting players, it doesn't have enough for the $1 Billion to be spent. That means teams either massively?overpay or the player has similar offers from a number of teams and can pick his spot.
    While the Browns could outbid any other team, they are unlikely to blow up the current structure of contracts in the league. Every year, players set new records for their positions but,?generally, those records aren't too far beyond the last record. The Browns are unlikely to set new standards and alienate their partners (other NFL owners) in the process.
    No matter how much fans want upgrades over...
    3. The Young Talent Needs to Develop
    While this very young roster led to a 1-15 record, the Browns plan is to build around a young, cheap roster full of high athletic upside. That young roster only gets better with time on the field and practice repetitions. Signing a number of free agents to take away that time and reps goes against what they did all of last season.?
    While signing free agents, if they can (see 1 & 2 above), who are better makes sense in Madden like games but goes against the plan and work they did last season.
    Fans don't want to hear it, understandably. We have the money, we have the needs, their are free agents and the young guys are not good enough right now. However, the only way they get better is through time. If you short circuit that, you throw the draft picks, year of development and the young, cheap roster foundation away.
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    The Browns could be active in free agency this year but these are 3 reasons their cap space may not be used.
    Hopefully I am wrong but it may be best for Browns fans to temper their expectations.
     
  15. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

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  16. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

    CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Browns have decreased season tickets prices for 40% of FirstEnergy Stadium in 2017.
    "We are incredibly grateful for the passion and support we receive from our fans and felt it was appropriate to adjust our ticket pricing at this time,'' Browns spokesman Peter John-Baptiste said in a release. "We have decreased a significant percentage of ticket prices because it was the right thing to do for our fans."
    Here are some details from the Browns release:
    ?? ?*?? ?All sections' season ticket prices will see a decrease or remain the same in 2017; no section's per game season ticket price will increase for the upcoming season
    ?? ?*?? ?The Browns are expected to rank either 31st or 32nd in the NFL for per game season ticket price for the 2017 season
    ?? ?*?? ?40 percent of the stadium will see a decrease in per game season ticket price
    ?? ?*?? ?Upper bowl
    ?? ?#?? ?More than 90 percent of per game season ticket prices in the upper bowl will decrease for the 2017 season?
    ?? ?#?? ?Price decreases range from $5-$15 per game, depending on location
    ?? ?#?? ?Season tickets are available in the upper bowl for $25-$65 per game
    ?? ?*?? ?Lake Club and BMW City Club
    ?? ?#?? ?More than 50 percent of per game season ticket prices will decrease in 2017
    ?? ?#?? ?Primarily, sideline seats' per game season ticket prices will decrease while corner locations will remain the same?
    ??? #?? ?Per game season ticket prices for all premium locations will decrease in 2017
    ?? ?*?? ?Lower bowl and mezzanine seating per game prices will remain flat
    ?? ?*?? ?It marks the eighth time in the past nine years that prices have not increased.
     
  17. kendawg Guest

    what choice did they have. An empty stadium is the death knell.
     
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  20. TopDawg Legend

    Sweet. It only took a few years, but I finally figured out how to post pics...lol!

    Sorry for the interuption.....
     

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