And you have to wonder what we found physically wrong with Moffitt because he passed the Bronco`s physical. Wish I new the back story of this deal. He would have been a critical addition at this time, imo.
Cousins is a big pile of steaming poo ..please cut his fat ass Sunday night then sign two guards who can play *HELP*
Armond Smith kicked a Rats player in the nutz last night *BRAVO* . should we resign him ? we need some speed in the backfield .
Cousins sucks bluez...but so does Moffitt... The problem with signing one today is the lack of quality available, not cap space. I think as teams begin cutting down their rosters, you will see a better quality available and that is when the Browns make a move imho. Right now the top of the line is Deuce Latui, who not only sucks..but will be suspended for the first 4 games of the season, Bobbie Williams who is 37 years old and was cut by the Ravens and Travelle Wharton(who you say?)..exactly We are in the bottom of the barrel as far as available guards right now, but two weeks from today over 1,000 players will be cut or traded...one of which will most definitely be an upgrade at guard over anything available right now.
I agree, the team will act once the roster cuts are done. Don't expect to find a gem but even a solid rock would mean improvement, so we'll see what the Banners come up with. The guard aside, what's up with Bess? I thought he was to be a key addition, yet he has been invisible....... Tonight IMO the most critical thing is not losing the momentum built in games 1 & 2. The guard position is going to test Weeds who you'd have to expect to be under some duress. His performance is important. A big drop off will plant seeds of doubt, and at this stage that could be disasterous. On the flip side, another good performance won't dispell uneasiness, but should at least keep the mojo going. Richardson doesn't need to show me much and I would say an injury free game is the only thing I want from him. The WR ranks need to show they can play without Gordon and still be effective. To that end Cameron needs to carry through with his performance last week, Little needs to show he can get open, and Bess and Benjamin need to demonstrate they can be effective or we are looking at game 1&2 as uphill climbs. Yeah, I'd like to see them show they can open holes in the running game too. That could be critical with Gordon out, and once again the guard falloff puts that in jeopardy. Looking for a good game, then the fun begins as the cuts reveal what this team will really look like. Working late tonight , and probably wont' get to see much of it (rats!). Barking loud right now. Hope I'm still feeling it tomorrow.
:-X The Browns have the best defense in the division and just need first of all to have Richardson stay healthy, and have Gordon come back with a purpose after the two games. The Browns will surprise everyone except us, we can already feel it changing. The Bengals are the challenge, the Steelers and Ravens will be in the rear view mirror. 8)
Browns' Brandon Weeden and Colts' Andrew Luck: So, we meet again Aug 24, 2013 -- 6:00am -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By Tony Grossi | ESPNCleveland.com INDIANAPOLIS This city has been the scene of two of the defining moments of Brandon Weeden?s time with the Browns. Both left sour tastes in his mouth. Thus it is appropriate that Weeden sort of re-launches his Browns career here tonight in the third preseason game. It is his first appearance since officially being named coach Rob Chudzinski?s starting quarterback for the 2013 season a week ago. This was where Weeden dueled Indianapolis Colts franchise quarterback Andrew Luck to a veritable draw in the seventh game of 2012. Luck held a 17-13 lead midway through the fourth quarter. Weeden had the Browns on the move, until Josh Gordon dropped a bomb at the Colts? 3-yard line. On fourth-and-1 from the Colts? 41, coach Pat Shurmur called for a punt with 6:31 to go. Network cameras panned to owner Jimmy Haslam wincing in disgust. The Colts hung on for the win. Weeden (25 of 41 for 264 yards, two TD, 96.0 passer rating) statistically outplayed Luck (16 of 29, 186, 74.8), but Luck had two short TD runs. The two rookie quarterbacks, who met in the 2012 Fiesta Bowl (won by Weeden, 41-38), went in opposite directions the rest of the year. Luck won seven of his next 10 games and charged into the playoffs with an 11-5 record ? a nine-win improvement over the previous year for the Colts. Weeden would go 4-4 and finish with a 5-10 rookie record. After the season, Joe Banner took over as Haslam?s CEO and fired Shurmur. At the NFL combine here in February, Banner set the tone for an uncomfortable offseason for Weeden by challenging his work ethic. ?We see potential there that we?re going to try to work with and see what it?s going to develop into. Some of that?s just gonna come from how badly he wants it,? Banner said bitingly. Weeden responded with a strong offseason, training camp and preseason. He brings to Lucas Oil Stadium two gaudy preseason statistics ? a passer rating of 139.8, and an efficiency rate of five scoring drives in six possessions. Luck, who threw for an NFL rookie record 4,374 passing yards last year, has a 128.8 rating in his sophomore practice games. Recalling last year?s matchup against Luck, Weeden said this week, ?In Indianapolis I played fairly well, did some good things, but we weren?t able to win that game, so I still think about that. I think I?ve taken the steps I needed to take to better myself.? Weeden said he never took Banner?s words personally. ?I knew I was going to work hard. It was just (a matter of) proving to (him) that hard work did pay off,? he said. This practice game is by no means a fair measure of whether Weeden has made strides on Luck. Chudzinski and Colts coach Chuck Pagano ? who worked on the same Browns staff under Butch Davis in 2004 ? may have different agendas in preparing their respective clubs for the season opener. Play times for first-teamers may differ and both coaches realize the final score is meaningless. But it?s fair to say that Weeden has a new sense of confidence as he meets Luck for the second time in their young careers. Quick hits: Most Browns regulars will play one series into the third quarter ? Among the Browns not scheduled or not expected to play are: defensive end Desmond Bryant, kicker Brandon Bogotay, cornerback Chris Owens, linebacker Jabaal Sheard, linebacker Barkevious Mingo, receiver Jordan Norwood and tight end Gary Barnidge ? Among inactive Colts will be running back Ahmad Bradshaw, and tight ends Coby Fleener and Dwayne Allen
This was where Weeden dueled Indianapolis Colts franchise quarterback Andrew Luck to a veritable draw in the seventh game of 2012. Luck held a 17-13 lead midway through the fourth quarter. Weeden had the Browns on the move, until Josh Gordon dropped a bomb at the Colts? 3-yard line. On fourth-and-1 from the Colts? 41, coach Pat Shurmur called for a punt with 6:31 to go. Network cameras panned to owner Jimmy Haslam wincing in disgust. *WALL*
I hated Shurmur before that game, but when he knocked the wind out of our sails with that chickenchit 4th and 1 punt call, his face went up on my dartboard for the rest of the season....Plain and simple, he's the worse coach we've ever had....I mean seriously! How mad did it make you when, during every post game presser, he would say, "well I thought the team really battled.". *WALL*
*BRAVO* that chit pissed me off uncontrollably. He said that way too much. Its almost as if losing close games we could of won was his mission.
Sitting on the highway waiting to catch speeders, a state police officer saw a car puttering along at 22 MPH. He thinks to himself, that car is just as dangerou...s as a speeder. So, he turns his lights on and pulls the car over. Approaching the car, he notices there are 5 old ladies, two at the front and 3 at the back, wide eyed and looking like ghosts. The driver obviously confused said, "Officer, I don't understand, I wasn't doing over the speed limit!, What seems to be the problem?" "Ma'am," the officer said, "you should know that driving slower than the speed limit can also be dangerous". "Slower than the speed limit? NO SIR! I was doing exactly 22 miles an hour", the old woman said proudly. The officer containing a chuckle explains that 22 was the route number, not the speed limit. A bit embarrassed, the woman grinned, thanking the officer for pointing out her error. "Before I go Ma'am, I have to ask, is everyone OK? These women seem badly shaken and haven't uttered a word all this time" "Oh! they will be alright in a minute, Officer, we just got off Route 142."
Here we go Brownies, here we go *OK* Hopefully most of the guys taking some time off arent banged up too bad and will be 100% for the start of the season. Lots of inactives tonight
Pats lost 40-9....Jets beat the Giants...Carolina slammed Baltimore....Rams had Denver on the ropes all night.....Titans beat down Falcons... all meaningless only preseason
Not sure I would go as far as meaningless, but I CERTAINLY don't ser the sky falling. 1) Richardson ran for a 4.5ypc ave...but only played 2 series. 2) Weeden didn't play bad, the receivers Did drop balls. It is easier to correct drops, than correct your passer. 3) We got nothing out of special teams, NOTHING! They looked much better first two weeks, hope to return. 4) Finally, the AFC North went 0-4 week 3...Does that mean they have gone from one of the best divisions to the worst? I think not... I was encouraged rather than discouraged. I think this will help them realize they are not near where they want to be and work harder. Not to mention Andrew Luck was touted as next great QB and played like it last night...hats off to them.
By Fred Greetham OBR Senior Browns Reporter Posted Aug 25, 2013 Against the Colts, Weeden was 12-of-25 for 105 yards with no touchdowns or interceptions. HIs rating was just 59.6. Weeden was 1-of-7 in drives that resulted in scores after starting the preseason 5-of-6. 0 Comments The Browns offense and Brandon Weeden had been near perfect in the first two preseason games and were hoping to keep it going in the dress rehearsal game. Not so much. Weeden, who was named the starting quarterback earlier this week was 18-of-25 for 229 yards (72 pct.), including three touchdowns with no interceptions. He came into the Colts game with a rating of 139.8. More importantly, he had led the Browns to scores on five of the six drives he was at quarterback. Against the Colts, Weeden was 12-of-25 for 105 yards with no touchdowns or interceptions. HIs rating was just 59.6. Weeden was 1-of-7 in drives that resulted in scores after starting the preseason 5-of-6. Overall, he's 6-of-13 in that category. Weeden's counterpart, Andrew Luck was 16-of-25 for 164 yards with two touchdowns and an interception. HIs rating was 92.8. In the first half against the Colts, Weeden and the offense was 0-of-5 on drives, including four punts and a turnover by fumble. Weeden was 8-of-15 for 66 yards and a 64.9 rating in the first half. Rob Chudzinski sent the offense out minus Trent Richardson for the first two series of the third quarter. The first series was a three-and-out, thus Chudzinski sent Weeden back out for another series before he led the Browns to a score. Trailing 17-0 and having three-staight three-and-outs, Chudzinski sent Weeden and the offense back out for a second series in the third quarter. After completing a pass to Josh Gordon for eight yards, Weeden hit Josh Cooper on a sideline pattern for a first down. Owen Marecic caught a short pass and after rolling over untouched was able to get up and get a first down to the Colts 48 and a 15-yard gain. On third down, Weeden once again went to his former college teammate Cooper for the first down on third-and-6 to the Colts' 32. After that, the Browns had three incomplete passes in a row before Shayne Graham hit a 50-yard field goal to make it 17-3. Cooper had two receptions for 16 yards. The Browns best drive was their opening drive of the game when they moved the ball into Colts territory before Joe Thomas was flagged for holding. That stalled the drive and the Browns punted. Weeden started 6-of-6 before for yards, before he threw an incompletion. The Browns picked up first downs on their first three possessions, but on their final two possessions of the first half they were three plays and punted. The last possession came with 16 seconds left in the first half deep in their own territory and they just ran out the clock. "It's a matter of execution," Chudzinski said at halftime of the WKYC broadcast. "We stopped ourselves on offense. We're facing a good team and can't do those things. The penalty stopped our drive and the penalty stopped a drive. "We just need to get in a good rhythm." Unfortunately, they never did. The Browns were just one-of-6 on third down in the first half and three-of-10 during Weeden's tenure in the game. Weeden and the starters came out for a sees in the third quarter. Weeden tried to go deep to Gordon on first down but was incomplete. After a short run by Brandon Jackson, Weeden threw a slant to Gordon on third down which was right on the number for a first down, but Gordon couldn't hang on to the ball forcing a three and out punt. EXTRA POINTS The D: The Browns defense gave up a field goal on the Colts opening possession and then forced a punt on the Colts second series. The Colts moved the ball into the red zone but then tightened up and forced the field goal. In the first nine possessions of the preseason, the first team defense has given up just two field goals. The defense gave up a 8 play 66 yard touchdown drive for the first touchdown given up by the number one defense. Out of their first 10 possessions, 2 field goals, one touchdown. The defense forced a turnover on an interception inside the five-yard line to keep the score 10-0 at the half. The first team defense stayed in for the first series of the second half and the results weren't good. After a long punt return gave the Colts a start in Browns territory, QB Andrew Luck marched the Colts quickly for a touchdown to extend the lead to 17-0 as Luck hit WR T.Y. Hilton for a touchdown. Winn, Groves Start: DL Billy Winn started in place of DE Desmond Bryant (back) and LB Quentin Groves started at outside linebacker in place of OLB Jabaal Sheard (knee). Winn had four tackles, while Groves had one and a pressure on QB Andrew Luck. T Rich Time: RB Trent Richardson touched the ball on the first four plays of the game on offense. He started with a five-yard run and then caught a pass for 10 yards. Another run of five yards and 12 moved the ball to the Colts' 44 before Thomas was called for holding. Richardson finished with seven carries for 31 yards and had one reception for 10 yards. Receiving Corps: WR Greg Little caught a would-be first down on third-and-7, but had the ball stripped by DB Greg Toler and it was recovered by the Colts. OL Mitchell Schwartz was called for unnecessary roughness after the play and the Colts started on the Browns 35. Little had three receptions for 28 yards. WR Josh Gordon finished with just two receptions for 16 yards, but he had a couple of dropped passes. WR Josh Cooper, filling in for WR Davone Bess caught two key passes on third downs on the Browns first scoring drive and finished with two receptions for 16 yards. Undrafted rookie FA WR Cordell Roberson was the leading receiver with two catches for 34 yards. Roberson also recovered an onside kick for the Browns. Campbell, Aubrey, Slaughter Hurt: There were two announced injuries during the game for the Browns and both were defensive backs. Josh Aubrey suffered a hand injury, but he returned in the fourth quarter and made a tackle. DB Jamoris Slaughter had a groin injury. Both players are rookies. Aubrey is an undrafted free agent, while Slaughter was a sixth-round draft choice. QB Jason Campbell appeared to injure his leg late in the game. He was 8-of-14 for 112 yards.and led the Browns to their second field goal. Cousins Starts: OL Oneil Cousins started at right guard in place of Jason Pinkston and Shawn Lauvao, who were both sidelined with ankle injuries. Cousins did not play in the first two preseason games as he was recovering from an ankle injury he suffered early in training camp. OL rookie Garrett Gilkey replaced Cousins after the first two series with the first team. Gipson Pick: FS Tashaun Gipson made an acrobatic interception inside the five-yard line to stop the Colts in the second quarter on a pass that went off the hands of the Colts fullback. Gipson finished with four tackles. Punting Night: P Spencer Lanning started badly with a 31-yard punt and then a 29-yard punt. However, he responded when forced to punt from the end zone with a 65-yard punt. He also had a 50-yard punt and averaged 40 yards, overall. T.J. Conley was cut earlier this week, leaving Lanning as the only punter currently on the roster. McFadden Debut: Rookie DB Leon McFadden made his first appearance in the preseason after missing the first two games with a groin injury. DB Buster Skrine started opposite of DB Joe Haden as DB Chris Owens was held out with a foot injury. McFadden was in on the tackle on QB Andrew Luck's first pass as he tackled WR Ty Hilton on a nine-yard gain. The Colts came back and threw to WR Reggie Wayne with McFadden on the coverage. McFadden was the starter in the nickel and received a lot of playing time. McFadden was victimized on second-and-four from the Browns' 10 as Luck hit WR Darius Heyward-Bey on a quick slant for s a first down to the three. The Colts later went after McFadden again, as he hit Wayne on third down to the six. Graham Hits: K Shayne Graham converted on both of his field goal attempts, including a 50-yard kick and a 44-yard kick. He is 3-of-3 on the season. Top Tacklers: LB D'Qwell Jackson, DL Phil Taylor, DB Akeem Auguste and DB Johnson Bademosi all tied for the team lead with five tackles. Tough Luck: QB Brian Hoyer's first pass was deflected off of WR Cordell Roberson and former Browns DB Larry Asante intercepted it and returned it for a touchdown to make it 27-6. T.J.'s Back: DB T.J. Ward made his debut and was one of the four captains along with DL Phil Taylor, OLB Paul Kruger and RB Trent Richardson.He pressured QB Andrew Luck on a couple of blitzes. He finished with 3 tackles. Sack Attack: OLB Paul Kruger sacked Luck on the Colts first series. DL Ahtyba Rubin had a chance at sacking Luck, but couldn't hang on. Inactives: The Browns had 17 players who were inactive, including: WR David Nelson (knee), TE Gary Barnidge (shouder), DB Trevin Wade (shoulder), K Brandon Bogotay (groin), OL Shawn Lauvao (ankle), OL Jason Pinkston (ankle), OL Ryan Miller (head), RB Dion Lewis (leg), RB Montario Hardesty (knee), WR Jordan Norwood (hamstring), OL Chris Faulk (knee), LB Barkevious Mingo (bruised lung), DL Desmond Bryant (back), DL Jabaal Sheard (knee), DB Chris Owens (foot), WR Davone Bess (knee) and WR Naaman Roosevelt (hamstring). Cuts Looming: NFL rosters must be trimmed to 75 by next Tuesday Aug. 27 and then to 53 by next Saturday, Aug. 31. The Browns close out their preseason on Thursday Aug. 29.
The Colts were very very good for years when they had Manning . he misses one year and they go 2- 14 . that puts them in postion to draft Luck and they go 11-5 last year . are they the luckiest franchise or what .
Got home too late to see anything but the 4th quarter, so I was looking for you Irish. I needed to hear the slant that told me it wasn't as bad as the score indicated. Drops, penalties, turn overs. OK correctable things to work on. Myabe not what we wanted to see, but not "the wheels are coming off" kind of game SAS could go nuts over. Doesn't make me feel better about the team, but at least it keeps me off the bridge. Thanks Irish
I've read a few posts that mention our WRs Gordon & Little were lack luster in route running, and of course some drops, so I find myself wondering if the events of this past week have softened the concertration and focus of the team. The loss of guys to injury, and the subsequent acquisition attempts, the "Speedy Recievers" getting publicly admonsdhed, the latest Haslam news, etc...... Does any of this trickle down and rob the team of their focus? The public airing of Little and Gordon's driving competition, coupled with what I've read as weaker performances last night, leave me wondering if they were sulking or just embarassed, thus less focused on the game, the ball, routes, etc...... In the end I think they needed a wake up call in the way of facing the fact thay it isn't going to as easy as the first two games may have allowed them to believe. It bothers me they looked so "Browns like", but if it lights a fire, then we can build on it. I felt this team had better talent than the record showed last year, and this year it is better yet, so I still beleve our season is what we make of it, and we have the horses to pull the train. Go BROWNS !
