No, Horton is the DC that changed us to the 3-4, the last time the Browns were a base 4-3 was with Dick Jauron.
The Browns were terrible long before Jimmy Haslam showed up. But since buying the team in 2012, he's fired three coaches and the Browns have had four consecutive losing seasons, the worst coming in 2015 when they won just three games. That led to wholesale housecleaning in the front office and on the coaching staff (again), which means rebuilding (again), and the realization that things will likely get worse before they get better (again). "I can't guarantee we're going to have a winning season after going 3-13,'' Haslam said Sunday, according to Cleveland.com's Mary Kay Cabot. "I know we'll be a better football team, and we're directionally correct. These guys will work hard and play hard, and our fans will appreciate that. (But) we have a long way to go. ... "I don't want to go there,'' Haslam said, when asked to speculate on how many wins the Browns could have in 2016. "That's one of those trick, gotcha questions. We could win four or five games and feel good about things or we could win eight. We'll all know when we stand here on Jan. 1st if we're improving. We're going to have a young team.'' Of course, Haslam is responsible for getting the Browns to this point. When the team struggled early in his tenure, Haslam's response was to fire people. That's not uncommon in the NFL, but it is ironic given that he was previously a minority owner in Pittsburgh, which has had exactly three head coaches since 1969. The Steelers also have six Super Bowl titles in that time, and haven't had a losing season under current coach Mike Tomlin, who was hired in 2007. But the reality is that the Browns are a young team, and it's unlikely they'll have much success this season. But if Haslam can stay out of the way -- and let the analytics-driven front office and coach Hue Jackson develop these players -- it's not unreasonable to expect winning to follow ... eventually. Not surprisingly, Jackson has set his sights slightly higher than four or five wins. "Hey, he's the owner. He can say whatever he likes (laughter),'' the first-year coach said. "I really respect that, but at the same time, that's just not how I'm built. I don't know what that number is going to be. I don't know if it's going to be four or 14. I don't know, but I know we're chasing and I don't want a number.'' A big part of any turnaround will rest with the quarterback. And while Jackson hasn't named a starter, Robert Griffin III, who struggled in recent seasons with the Redskins, is the favorite. About that: Haslam asks Browns fans for patience while RG3 hopes to rediscover his career in Cleveland. "He's obviously a tremendous athlete,'' Haslam said. "He's been a model person since he's been here, worked hard. Early in his career, he showed potential to be a big-time quarterback. Hue can have a very positive impact. All of us need to be patient with Robert. He hasn't played in two years, and he's still only 26 years old. It seems like Robert has been around (forever) because he broke in at 22 and had that big year, but he's only played a half-year, three quarters of a year since then, but we'll see.'' Yes, yes we will.
His departure didn?t last as long as his initial stay, apparently. Former NFL receiver Chad Johnson tells Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer that he?ll be returning to the Browns after a short absence to continue working with the team. And he doesn?t plan to leave again. ?You really thought I was leaving?? Johnson said. ?This is the funny thing. Hue Jackson allowed me to come in as an intern. I never told Hue I was leaving, so he?s stuck with me until they force me to leave. I?ll be here through January.? Johnson?s explanation conflicts with Jackson?s, who downplayed Johnson?s departure as something the head coach was expecting. Johnson said he left because he needed to fly to Houston to explain to his 12-year-old daughter that he couldn?t be at the Junior Olympics this week. Cha?iel Johnson, via Cabot, is one of the best sprinters in her age group in the world. ?I had to explain to her, ?You?ve got to go out there and run well and be able to do so without me being here because I have to be in Cleveland,? Johnson said. ?That?s something I needed to be able to tell my daughter face to face, not over the phone, not via text and she has to understand that Daddy has to work. She?s one of the fastest in the world and it would kill her for me not to be there.? That?s fine, but if Johnson is going to coach on a full-time basis he needs to realize that plenty of personal sacrifices will have to be made, because the hours are much longer, the pay is much lower, and the glory is much more scarce than it is for players.
Tell that 2 Antonio Brown, Colston, Tom Brady, Sherman and Terrell Davis that they dont have the same tools as all those players drafted ahead of them....that is such a joke statement....Gordon had ONE good yr...how many players in sports had one good yr....he has never done it in college or the NFL w any consistency....the only consistent thing he knows is nothing 2 b proud of if ur an athlete...of course I didnt bring up AJ Green....he has proven over his early career he can b consistent and dominate....what u think bout Pryor...doesnt he have more potential than Coleman since hes just as fast and a lot taller and bigger...mayb its Gordon and Pryor being the best tandem in the NFL
Mmmkay. Are you sure you don't wanna go with a "NEENER! NEENER! NEENER!" right here...smh. Look stopper, everyone posting here, including myself have tried to get you to understand. Obviously it's never gonna happen. That little pea brain of yours just isn't gonna get it...So just drop it. If you were trying to, you couldn't make yourself look this idiotic....let it go. You were the only one unable to comprehend... Truthfully, I think you are able to comprehend....I just think you enjoy being an asshole....just my theory.
I was starting to think that the can was going to sit on my mantle for the rest of a Goats life. Hate to think that an Arizona goat ended the long standing tradition. I know Lym officially retired but Browns fans have never shivered from any challenge. *BYE* I'm in if we get started, just have to ask Lym what my password is.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/08/rookie_corey_coleman_is_the_br.html Rookie Corey Coleman is the Browns training camp standout of week one Mary Kay Cabot August 05, 2016 at 5:00 AM CLEVELAND, Ohio ? Browns rookie receiver Corey Coleman has been bringing it like Beckham in the first week of training camp. When he's not catching deep balls from Robert Griffin III or displaying some nifty "toe drag swag'' along the sidelines, he's burning Justin Gilbert for a touchdown in one-on-one drills and then trash-talking him on the trip back from the end zone. Plenty of players have stood out in the first week of camp, but none more than the No. 15 overall pick out of Baylor ? especially when the sirens wail and it's 'go' time. "He's scored a bunch when we've had some of this live stuff,'' quarterback Josh McCown said. "He's done a really good job. He's coming in and working. He's learning the system and terminology. A lot of times, with young guys while they're learning, their skillset will diminish a bit. "The cool thing about Corey is he's still learning, but when the ball touches his hands, he's exactly why you picked him. He's shown it's not too big for him when the bullets start flying and we start playing. When the ball touches his hands, he's about scoring and getting in the end zone. That's impressive." Coleman's nose for the end zone hasn't been lost on top offensive assistant Pep Hamilton, who takes over a points-starved offense that finished 30th in the NFL with 28 touchdowns last season. "He can score the ball,'' said Hamilton. "We saw it a couple days ago in our scrimmage when he caught a hitch route down inside the red zone area. He made two guys miss and he scored the football. That's what we're going to need him to do. We need a big-play threat or two or three on the perimeter, and we feel like he's the guy who can do those things." As big a threat at Giants receiver Odell Beckham Jr., who lit up the NFL in 2014 with 91 receptions for 1,305 yards and 12 touchdowns en route to NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year honors and a Pro Bowl berth? "That's a hard thing to answer because I haven't played an NFL game,'' said Coleman, the 2015 Biletnikoff winner for the nation's best receiver. "But Odell is a great receiver and he's done some unbelievable things in the NFL.'' Receiver Andrew Hawkins, who's studied the best receivers in the NFL, sees greatness in the 5-11,185-pound wideout. In fact, he compares him to Steve Smith, the five-time Pro Bowler formerly of the Panthers and now with the Ravens. Smith, 37, is 5-9, 195 and had similar explosive speed in his prime. "Corey Coleman is an incredible talent,'' Hawkins said. "He reminds me a lot of Steve Smith, which is in my opinion one of the top three receivers to ever play the game of football. I've always been a huge Steve Smith fan. But he has a lot of that skillset. He has to work on some of his technique stuff, but his effort is what's special to me because a lot of time young guys, they don't always come in knowing that above all else, give effort. "Your effort and your talent will mend the wound of what you don't know technique-wise until you figure it out because the NFL is a different game, especially in the offense he was in at Baylor. But Corey has come in and worked his butt off, whether's it's blocking backside, whether it's finishing to the end zone, whether it's being the playmaker he was brought here to be, and I'm excited for what his career is going to be. He's been incredible so far.'' Coleman got to show off a little on Tuesday in front of his former Baylor coach Art Briles, who visited his four Bears in Browns camp: Coleman, right tackle Spencer Drango, Robert Griffin III and Josh Gordon. "You'll think he's one of the best to ever put on a Browns uniform,'' said Briles, who was fired by Baylor amid the university's sexual assault scandal involving athletes. "That guy's special now. He's dynamite in a package. He's tough, he's explosive and he's a fierce competitor, and that's really kind of what sets him apart. He loves to win.'' The competitive fire burned Tuesday when Coleman put a move on Gilbert and beat him easily for a touchdown in one-on-one drills. Skipping past the third-year cornerback on the way back from the end zone, Coleman talked some smack at Gilbert and the two went facemask-to-facemask and had to be separated by coach Hue Jackson after a little teaching moment on the field. "We were just competing,'' Coleman said. "Me and Justin Gilbert, we've known each other for a while. He went to (Oklahoma State). I played him in college when I was younger. It just got emotional. It's just loving the game, being passionate about the game. But everything has cleared over fine." Coleman spent part of his offseason working out with Robert Griffin III in Los Angeles, where they worked on their timing and chemistry. The effort has paid off. The two have been connecting well in camp, and treating fans to some big plays. "It builds trust,'' said Griffin. "It builds cameraderie to know when he's going to be coming out of his breaks. He made the effort to come out, to come workout when he could be off. He could be in the Bahamas or something, sipping on pi?a coladas or whatever he wanted to do. He came out to work. I think that's important for him, for us as a team.'' It helps that Griffin got to know Coleman at Baylor. "I was leaving Baylor when he was a recruit coming in and I went back to Baylor a bunch, so I know Corey really well,'' he said. "I know what he's about. I know what drives him.'' Coleman has about another week before Gordon returns to the practice field and tries to re-establish himself as the Browns No. 1 receiver. "I've got to compete and I only can control what I can control,'' he said. "I believe the coach is going to put the guys he needs to be to successful on the field. I've got to stay consistent and show them each and every day that I can be the guy.'' He's off to a rousing start.
O Tackle Michael Bowie placed on Reserve/Retired list today by the Browns. Good bye, Michael. We hardly knew ya.
I took my son over to the Browns scrimmage today at Ohio Stadium..it was his first trip to The Shoe...We had a good time. There was good and bad, but I'd have to say the biggest standout was Terrelle Pryor. He looked really good, and the Buckeye fans were loving it...RG3 looked pretty good, but it wasn't very physical at all. Players were in shorts, but they did have helmets and shoulder pads on...it was fun. I hope the Browns come back to Columbus every summer...
What's going on everyone? Just got back from Barbados a little bit ago. Wasn't able to access the web down there since we forgot to pick up sim cards for our phones and the hotel charged like $8/hr to use their computers. Can anybody give me a recap/rundown of what went down with practice this last week? Who's been looking good and who hasn't?
Yeah and Gilbert will be a HOF player just like the other MORON drafted in the first round that year . I really want to smash Farmers face in with a shovel ..that is all
