Ya he ran those RBs in the ground w their touches...LT had over 300 carries and caught 100 passes...boy thats some imagination on offense. I dont think Emmitt became the all time leader because was he wasnt getting the ball and making Turner look good....I dont think anybody is saying Aikman carried those teams like they do Rodgers, Manning, Brady etc. Also, another team he coached had another predictable offense in Wash...give the ball to Portis...boy hes the best OC in the NFL. We will see if ur boy T-Rich can take the pounding week n week out since hes on pace w LT lol
In the three years Norv was at SD (2007-2009) LT only carried more than 300 time ONCE and NEVER caught anywhere near 100 passes... In fact, neither RB ever caught 100 passes in any season! Why do you constantly just throw sh*t against the wall and see if it sticks? Try some actual research before posting!!! Chargers Offensive stats- 2007 - Rush Att - 485 Pass Att - 471 2008 - Rush Att - 421 Pass Att - 478 2009 - Rush Att - 427 Pass Att - 519 So... only one season did he run the ball more than throw the ball, he actually balanced the attack quite well over his three years there (with LT) and in 2009 he actually leaned pretty heavy on the pass, not that it shows imagination or not... just proves you wrong.... AGAIN!
To decipher this: Whon Whon Whon Whon whon....Whon whon whon whon whon...whon whon whon whon whon! You sound like a Peanuts Parent...You're speaking without saying anything comprehensible! Give up when you are proven wrong and it ends there...
Sorry, One last thing so we can close this subject... 3 out of Emmitt Smith's 4 best seasons were under Norv...He also built not only Smith, but also Troy Aikman(his two best seasons were under Turner) and Michael Irvin (3 of his 4 best seasons were under Norv) into Hall of Famers...not Pro Bowlers...HOFers!! As for Tomlinson, your arguments are unfounded as he got him in his twilight, he was 29 when Norv got him and had already ran the ball over 2,000 times in the NFL...It was the coaches that came before him that used up his body. Norv's worst year of running LT was LT's second lowest total carries of his career to that point, and every season after he used him less and less which prolonged his career another 4 years. As JYD eloquently put it...and many other's on here in the past...do your research! Washington? Really? You mean the team with 4 top 15 offenses out of his 7 years there despite the fact his QBs were, Heath Shuler, Gus Frerotte and Trent Green post injury? BTW how do you think Terry Allen and Stephen Davis feel about Norv Turner? He made their careers!! By The Way....Portis wasn't even in the NFL when Norv coached the Redskins idiot As for TRich, the only comparison to LT made was their rookie seasons..which is the only comparison that can be made at this point, and well...He compared quite favorably to him. As for taking the pounding? He played about 7 games with broken ribs without missing game time until week 17 when it no longer mattered. Injuries are a part of the NFL and just because a guy shows up on the injury list means about as much as your opinion. Did he play the games? THAT is what matters. I am sick and tired of hearing about his health issues, the man played whether they listed an injury or not. That tells me more about his makeup than a list with his name on it! I have said this a thousand times, go find a FSU board and enjoy life a little more than trolling us..You will add years to your life without having to deal with so much disappointment of being wrong here.
Spoiler Subject closed... time to stop feeding the troll!!! On to more pressing matters... Irish, I really need your pitching staff to cool off and mine to get hot, Only a two point lead w/ 6 left and you got 8, I'm not liking my chances this week!!! *WALL*
*STOP* I don't know what you're talking about! I was up by almost 25 around 9:30 PM...then you came roaring to life! I am the one that is very worried. Most of my pitchers are "start 'em and pray"...yours are much more consistent. I had to replace two suspended players late morning...not looking good for me! *SORRY*
I did get lucky that the roid suspensions didn't hurt my team any!!! I see a good one brewing here and just hope I can pull off the win, I need it!!
what a league *BRAVO* . there will be a couple good teams not make the playoffs . everybody is fighting tooth & nail to hang in there .i just hope i am not one of those who don't make the party . send Tribe closer Chris Perez somewhere . like the bottom of Lake Erie maybe ]:-> ..we had the Tiggers on the ropes last night and this LOSER with a big mouth blows it .i hope they can rebound from that tough loss .
All right it is preseason, but I wish it wasn't the Browns and Rams first week, that sucks *WALL* This sucks for the goat %)
Seeing as how it if preseason, I think it would be awesome if I had two teams I followed closely played each other. Every aspect of the game can be analyzed from both sides of the field. Really doesn't matter who wins or loses...
That's exactly how I feel when the Browns play the Packers in preseason... no stress, just watching both sides play each other, during the season however, I root for the Browns to win (just not by too much! ) I started following the Packers when the Rat Bastard took away football, and I've followed them ever since, but I'm not nearly as passionate about them as I am about the Brownies!!! 8)
i kinda hopped on the Packer bandwagon after the rat bastard moved us myself .i worked most Sundays making double time up until the Browns came back. i still want the Pack to do well unless its against the Browns then may there tundra overflow with poo . i liked the Giants the last few years only because a firend of mines son played for them . now that Chase Blackburn is in Carolina i will keep up with Chase . wish the Browns would have signed him so does his dad who is die hard Browns fan himself .
By Fred Greetham OBR Senior Browns Reporter Posted Aug 6, 2013 Ten months ago, Browns offensive lineman Jason Pinkston was hospitalized with a blood clot in his lung. By March he was cleared to return to the NFL and he says he's ready to play in the first preseason game. 0 Comments BEREA, Ohio ? On Oct. 14, 2012 the Browns were on their way to a 34-24 over the Bengals at home - their first win of the season. However, for Jason Pinkston, something wasn't right. He left the game not feeling well. Soon after, he was in the hospital fighting for his life with a blood clot in his lung and he missed the rest of the season on injured reserve. He was cleared to return to practice in March and Thursday night will be his first game action since last October. "Yeah, it will (be big)," Pinkston said. "It will be the first time running out there for a meaningful game. I remember knowing something was really, really wrong and I wasn't sure what it was, but I was overall happy because our team just beat Cincinnati." Pinkston said he's still getting himself back into football shape. "I'm still getting there," he said. "I still have a lot of work to do. I haven't been in a game for six or seven months. It's still going to take some time to get used to, moving my feet again and moving my hips. "Football shape is different than just being in shape, so it's still going to be a grind to get ready for the first game, to be in the shape you need to be in to play 14 plays," he said. "But we still have a couple weeks before we actually play (the regular season), so I think there's enough time for me to get those down and accomplished before we open up with Miami." Pinkston (6-4, 305) was a fifth-round draft choice in 2011 and he started all 16 games as a rookie at left guard. He started the first six games at left guard in 2012 before he was sidelined. Meanwhile, John Greco took over at left guard for Pinkston and started the final 10 games at the position. He impressed the new coaching staff and front office enough to sign a five-year contract extension last month. Pinkston has been in a battle with Greco and Shawn Lauvao for one of the guard positions, but the general consensus is it was between he and Lauvao for the right guard job. "It's tough, but you know it's a business," Pinkston said. "It's going to be the next guy up when something happens. I'm taking it as it is and I'm still here working because it's such a long season, so anything could happen. I could be in there tomorrow as the starter. There's no such thing as you can't lose your job from injury, and I think some people around the league, they get confused with that. Sometimes you get banged up and someone gets in there performing and the team's rolling. Why pull them out? You just can't do that." Lauvao seemed to be ahead of him thus far in training camp, but Lauvao injured his ankle in Monday's practice blocking Phil Taylor and was carted off. Pinkston might get the start in the first preseason game Thursday with the Rams as Lauvao did not practice Tuesday. Pinkston was in Lauvao's place with the starters at right guard. Rob Chudzinski didn't give an update on Lauvao's status after Tuesday's practice, but did confirm it was an ankle injury. "He suffered an ankle injury, but we're still evaluating it." Chudzinski said he will update his status on Wednesday. There was a little concern when Pinkston headed to the locker room with about 20 minutes left in Tueday's practice and didn't return, but Chudzinski said there was no injury. "There's no problem, at all," he said. It was later disclosed he was excused by the coach to attend a funeral. "It's tough," Pinkston said of Lauvao's injury. "You never want to see somebody get hurt in a training camp practice. It didn't look to serious. Maybe they took him off for precaution just to make sure he's ok." After starting 22 straight games at left guard, Pinkston admitted it is an adjustment playing right guard. "I never played right guard before so my feet are backward so I'm trying to get them together," he said. "The left side is more natural for me. It's definitely a learning period for me, but I've got to be ready. i really don't have a choice." ?We?ve actually been working on him both sides," Rob Chudzinski said after Monday's practice. "I think it remains to be seen which side I like him the best. His ability to move back and forth is a good thing. He?s been getting back to form. That?s a process to be going through; he?s been through a lot. I am seeing signs, especially these last few days, of improvement.? Pinkston doesn't take any of his time on the field for granted after what he experienced last season. "So you look at it like that, I'm just happy to be able to come out here and practice and have a chance at starting for a job again," he said. "When I was out, guys would ask me how I'm doing and I was like, 'You don't know when it could be over.' "I was a doctor's appointment away from not being able to play football again, so I'm thankful every day I'm able to put pads on and practice and be out here with my teammates again." Extra Points Yount Extended: The Browns announced that they have extended the contract of LS Christian Yount for five years. He is the second player the team has extended the contracts recently. Last month, the Browns also extended the contract of OL John Greco for five years. ?Christian has proven that he?s a reliable contributor,? Chudzinski said. ?He?s an important cog at an often undervalued position. We?re happy to have him on our team.? Yount, a 6-1, 256-pound veteran in his third NFL season out of UCLA, is now signed through the 2017 season. He has seen action in 28 career contests and has added four special-teams tackles. Yount was signed during the 2011 season and replaced LS Ryan Pontbriand. Injury Update: The following players continued to be on the sideline working with trainers: RB Montario Hardesty (hamstring), WR David Nelson (knee), OL Oniel Cousins (ankle), FB Brock Bolen (calf), OL Chris Faulk (knee) and TE Brad Smelley (hamstring). Not on the field were OL Ryan Miller (head) and OL Shawn Lauvao (ankle). T Rich, Ward Practice: RB Trent Richardson (shin) practiced but did not run with the first team in preparation for the Rams. Most likely, Richardson will sit the game out. DB T.J. Ward (hamstring) also practiced but was replaced by DB Tashaun Gipson and DB Johnson Bademosi during team drills. He might also sit out the game. Chudzinski said he will update the injury situation and who will play on Wednesday. The Plan: Chudzinski said the plan for the preseason opener is to play the starters the first quarter with the second team playing the majority of the second and third quarters followed by the third team in the fourth quarter. He said there will be certain individuals who will play into various time frames
By Fred Greetham OBR Senior Browns Reporter Posted Aug 7, 2013 Browns second-year quarterback Brandon Weeden is confident on the eve of his second preseason. 0 Comments BEREA, Ohio--Brandon Weeden is confident that the work he put in over the off-season will start to show up as the Browns open their preseason Thursday night against the Rams. Weeden is expected to play the first quarter, but he has some specific goals he would like to accomplish. "I want to be able to string together consecutive good plays, string together a couple of good drives and just get the feel of the game," Weeden said after Wednesday's indoor practice. "It's a little bit different than practice, obviously, there is going to be some emotion, a lot more adrenaline. I just want to put together a couple of good drives and just manage the game and do the things I need to do to move the ball." Weeden said his personal goal is to increase his completion percentage this season. Last year, he completed just 57.4 percent of his passes. "(Increase) that completion percentage," he said. "You have to get completions, whatever it might be first down or third down, you have to get completions. "We have great backs and guys underneath that can catch the ball and make plays," he said. "Again, it's about managing the offense and doing my part in moving the football and throw the ball accurately, go through my progressions and get a better understanding of the offense. All that ends up in more completions." Weeden has worked on his footwork and trying to get the ball out of his hands quicker this year and he thinks he's getting better. "I think I've made pretty good strides," he said. "I've done a lot of stuff like jump roping, doing drills before practice. Just being conscious about it. If you just think about being faster in the drills that carries over into the team reps." Weeden said he has a good feel for the offense at this point of the preseason. "Knowing where to go and getting the ball out quickly and getting the ball into those guys hands as quickly as possible, it makes it easier on the guys up front," he said. "It's really set in stone in where to go with the football depending on coverage, so you have to know where to go with the football. If you can, it allows you to get the ball out quickly, while at the same time taking some shots. Those couple of things and we have to be good on third down. Last year, we weren't very good on third down. I think if we can become a good third down football team, that's how you put together long drives and give your defense a break and allow you to score touchdowns instead of kicking field goals." Weeden thinks the game is slowing down for him, but the game is still moving at a high rate of speed. He's anxious to see as he starts his second season. "I don't know if it will ever be in slow motion, these guys are too fast for that," he said. "But my understanding of the offense and where to start in the progressions and where to go with the football will help slow it down. You still have to react and play fast because it's just fast on the other side of the ball. Those guys are paid a lot of money to run fast and hit hard. It's hard to know until you get into the games because practice can be deceiving at times, so we'll see." The offense had trouble in the Family Night scrimmage last Saturday and has seemed to lag behind the defense in training camp, but Weeden isn't worried. "We're making strides," he said. "We have a long ways to go. I don't think we're where we need to be. I still feel good about the guys that we have and the potential we have offensively. Once you get in a game and you have those live reps, you can get a better understanding because it's tough when you go against your own defense all the time. "I'm confident, absolutely," he said. "These are the dog days of camp. The defense are going to have their days when they win and there are going to be days when we get them. That's just the way these things go. It's like that in high school, college wherever you play, it's just part of this time of year. We didn't have a very good night Saturday. We knew we had a lull there but we have to bounce back. I'm confident we will." Weeden said he's learned sometimes, his best friend might be the check down to a back or underneath receiver. "If you go back and look at the film you're working one side of the field and knowing where your check downs are," he said. "Knowing where your underneath routes are. I'm an aggressive thrower, that's my personality I like to make tight throws but I think knowing when to take those shots and knowing when to be aggressive and knowing when to check it down and use our backs, use their abilities and get their hands on the ball in space, that's one thing. "I'll try and throw a corner route when I might have something underneath that might get six-, seven- or eight yards," he said. "If I can get better in those areas, that completion percentage will go up and that will allow us to get more first downs and put ourselves in better position. It's always easier to have second-and-3 versus second-and-10 in this league." Weeden says he knows he needs to play well with Jason Campbell and Brian Hoyer behind him, but said he hasn't put any added pressure on himself. "I know I have to play well, so I'm not putting any added pressure (on myself)," he said. "You have to be smart and understand where you're at and treat it like it's a real game. "I want to put together drives and manage the game," he said. "The coaches are big on seeing consistent, manageable drives, whether it's a four-yard run here or a six-yard pass there. That's my goal, just to put our guys in a position to have no negative plays." Extra Points T Rich, Ward Ruled Out: Chudzinski said that RB Trent Richardson (shin) and DB T.J. Ward (hamstring) will not play in the preseason opener with the Rams. "Trent Richardson and T.J. Ward, we'll also hold (out) for the game," Chudzinski said. "Both would be available to play normally, but since it's the preseason we're going to be smart with them and hold them for the game, as well." Weeden was asked if Richardson is bothered by being held out . "He seems fine with it," he said "He's a competitor and wants to play, but he understands." Both Richardson and Ward practiced in individual drills on Tuesday and Wednesday. Chudzinski said that RB Dion Lewis and RB Chris Ogbonnaya will start in the backfield. DB Johnson Bademosi will start at strong safety for Ward with Tashaun Gipson at free safety. Lauvao Out: OL Shawn Lauvao was ruled out of the game after missing his second-straight practice with an ankle injury. "Shawn Lauvao will not play." Chudzinski was asked if he could play if it were the regular season like he indicated was the case for Richardson and Ward. "He will be out for the game," he said. "I don't have any more details." Jason Pinkston will start at right guard and rookies Garrett Gilkey and Caylin Hauptmann will follow in the rotation. Gilkey was drafted in the seventh-round from Chadron State and Hauptmann is an undrafted free agent rookie from Florida International. McFadden Missing: Rookie CB Leon McFadden was sidelined from Wednesday's practice with a groin injury and he will not play against the Rams. "He pulled a groin and will be sidelined," Chudzinski said. "Hopefully, we'll get him back soon enough and he'll get his opportunities to show in the games what he can do." Ruled Out: Besides the aforementioned players (Richardson, Ward, McFadden and Lauvao) six other players have been ruled out for Thursday's game: RB Montario Hardesty (hamstring), FB Brock Bolen (calf), RB Brad Smelley (hamstring), OL Ryan Miller (head), OL Chris Faulk 9knee) and OL Oniel Cousins (ankle). The Plan: Chudzinski said the plan is for the starters to play most of the first quarter and then the second team will play most of the second and third quarters, with the remainder of the roster finishing up the game in the fourth quarter. "I'm looking to see guys out there competing to win and seeing what they carry over from the practice field in execution and bring it to the game," he said. "Ultimately, the effort and establishing the identity that we want to establish." Roster cuts to 75 are required by Aug. 27 and then 53 by Aug. 31. Bad Barbers: CB Joe Haden said that some of the rookies received buzz hair cuts as part of the initiation process. "There are some bad barbers in there," Haden said. "They look terrible." Haden said he survived the hazing to some degree as a rookie, but received a pass if he bought all of the defensive players I Pads, so he complied
Let us hope that both the Rams and Browns learn some things about themselves and get away without a major injury. *THUMBSUP*
By Don Delco OBR Senior Browns Reporter Posted Aug 7, 2013 With traffic expected will be messy in downtown Cleveland on Thursday evening, the Browns have some tips on how to (somewhat) alleviate the pain. 0 Comments People who live in bigger cities like Washington, D.C., Chicago or Los Angeles, have 10 times the crappier traffic than northeast Ohio. That said, it can get bad on the north coast, too. Ahead of tomorrow night?s preseason opener at FirstEnergy Stadium against the St. Louis Rams, the Cleveland Browns are asking media outlets like us to relay the following messages. We?re happy to oblige, because being stuck in traffic IS THE WORST. With an Indians game also taking place downtown, and people leaving work on a weekday, fans are strongly encouraged to arrive early, leaving enough time to park at least 30 minutes prior to the 7:30 p.m. kickoff. ?Construction workers are resurfacing East 9th Street, which will affect inbound and outbound traffic. Please be patient and exercise caution. ?Since there is a chance of rain in the forecast, please advise fans to wear rain gear. Umbrellas will not be permitted into the stadium. ?In an effort to enhance public safety and improve stadium access, the NFL has implemented a new policy that limits the sizes and types of bags that fans can bring into the stadium. Fans are encouraged to leave bags at home or in their cars. Only clear plastic, vinyl or PVC bags that do not exceed dimensions of 12 by 6 by 12 inches will be allowed. Fist-size clutch purses or a one-gallon clear, plastic freezer bag also are allowed. Backpacks, duffle bags, suitcases, seat cushions, briefcases, coolers and comparable containers are not permitted. More information: www.NFL.com/allclear.