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Discussion in 'Cleveland Browns' started by bluez, Apr 3, 2013.

  1. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

    Super Bowl Sunday . who do we want to win ?

    does anybody really care ?

    I am just hoping for a good entertaining game as I really don't care for either team . I guess I will pull for the Hawks ..kinda *DONT_KNOW*
     
  2. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

    I got my first FBB Invite .TY Pigeon *DANCE* .

    I will be reactivating the Browns fans & friends league soon .

    TD is the defending champ ..I want the waterlogged baseball trophy back *THIS*

    who is in again for this season ?
     
  3. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

    NFL unrestricted free agents An unrestricted free agent (a player who has completed four or more accrued seasons) may sign with any team without any compensation owed to his old team through the first scheduled day of training camp in late July. At that point, if his old team makes a tender offer by June 1st (110% of last year's salary), his rights will revert back to his old team. The team then has until the Tuesday after the 10th week of the season to re-sign him. If he's not re-signed, he must sit out the season. Without a tender offer by June 1st, a player can be signed by any team at any time throughout the season. Cleveland Browns UFAs (per NFL.com 1/17): Ahtyba Rubin, DT Miles Austin, WR Jabaal Sheard, DE Brian Hoyer, QB Jim Leonhard, S Jordan Cameron, TE
     
  4. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

    A mystery inside an enigma




    Josh Gordon has seen and heard enough. He struck back Thursday in the form of an open letter to Stephen A. Smith, Charles Barkley and Cris Carter, three of his harshest critics.




    His wide-ranging, almost-rambling 36-paragraph missive, posted on the Internet by The Cauldron, was carefully worded and composed respectfully for the most part.




    The troubled Browns wide receiver, facing a season-long suspension by the National Football League following a failed substance abuse test, does not come off as an officious jerk. If he comported himself as gracefully and artfully as he wrote this letter, he might not be in the trouble he finds himself in.




    He writes a lot of it in defensive mode. You say this and this about me, he wrote, but you don?t really know me. Then he goes on offense. ?You have very little idea what you are talking about. None of you do, even those who seem curiously obsessed with the goings-on in my life.?




    At times, it appeared as though he did not write this letter totally by himself. He had help. For example, in describing his rough upbringing as a youth in Houston, he wrote, ?I succeeded by narrowly avoiding a life of crime that managed to sink its clutches into almost all of my childhood friends.?




    If this is an example of how well Gordon writes, he has a future in the literary world if he is unable to resume his NFL career.




    Throughout the letter, there is no question he is in a state of denial. He acknowledges he is only a social drinker and claims he hasn?t touched marijuana since college.




    ?I am not a drug addict; I am not an alcoholic,? he wrote. ?I am not someone who deserves to be dissected and analyzed like some tragic example of everything that can possibly go wrong for a professional athlete. . . . I am a human being with feelings and emotions and scars and flaws just like anyone else. I make mistakes ? I have made a lot of mistakes ? but I am a good person and I will persevere.?




    And yet, he keeps getting suspended by the NFL for alcohol and drug abuse. It?s almost as though the league is incorrect in its punishment and he believes he has done nothing wrong.




    Barkley, the ex-National Basketball Association great, has gone on record as being fearful that ?Josh Gordon will die if he doesn?t change his ways,? an obvious reference to Gordon?s constant problems with the NFL.




    Gordon?s dramatic reply: ?Respectfully, your worry over my ?problems? with substance abuse and my twisting descent into darkness (another literary beauty) and, apparently, my impending death, is misplaced mostly because you have very little idea what you are talking about.?




    He deals with Carter more harshly. The Pro Football Hall of Fame wide receiver, who overcame substance abuse after being cut by the Philadelphia Eagles many years ago, publicly suggested last summer that the Browns should release Gordon following yet another league suspension.




    Gordon?s defiant response: ?You state as fact that ?we are dealing with addiction here.? Know this: We are not dealing with anything, Cris. We?re not the same. Not at all.?




    Writing this letter is an open admission by Gordon that he is paying attention to his critics and, at the same time, assuring those who share those fears for him have nothing about which to be fearful. It?s almost as though he believes he is in total control of his life.




    Midway through the letter comes a frank admission. ?I messed up,? he wrote. Then he copped out. ?But to even begin to understand why I messed up, you need to know the Josh Gordon that existed before the NFL.?




    He blames his age to a certain degree. ?If I have a ?problem,? it is I am only 23 years old ? with a lot left to learn. . . I truly believe that what I?m going through right now will only make me stronger. I believe my future is bright.?




    He also included what amounts to a mea culpa to Browns fans, the city of Cleveland and his family and friends. ?I have let down many in Cleveland . . . and the loyal fan base that wants nothing more than to win. Playing there is different than in many other cities. We feel the fans? pain. . . .




    ?I have also disappointed the family and friends who have always stood by me. . . . Most importantly, I have failed myself. Again.? The boldface and italics added for dramatic effect by Gordon.




    The bottom line (with apologies to Winston Churchill): Josh Gordon is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma. On the one hand, he is a supremely talented athlete who seems bent on self-destruction despite his denials. On the other, he comes across as an extremely articulate young man who is completely misunderstood.




    I don?t know Gordon, real or otherwise, or why he allows himself to constantly find trouble and do nothing about it. All I know is he has the chance to become a great pro football player and is pissing it away despite his protestations.




    Letters like the one he submitted to The Cauldron do not help the matter. If anything, it exacerbates the situation because many fans are totally confused now as to just what makes Josh Gordon tick.






    Posted by Rich Passan
     
  5. am i the only one who finds that comment ironic?
     
  6. beachbum Legend Manager Steelers

    *DRINK*
     
  7. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    I'm in blues...

    Super Bowl Sunday, GO BROWNS!! ER...well...never mind...barkeep, another please?!
     
  8. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

    Manziel the butt of jokes at NFL Honors show

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    Seth Myers: "I should also mention that tonight's show should run two hours...or about twice as long as the Johnny Manziel era."

    (Audience gives a combination of laughs and groans as camera pans to Joe Namath laughing)



    Seth Myers: "It was a rough start for Johnny Football this year, but it makes more sense when you learn that his middle name is 'College.' Johnny College Football. "

    (More laughs. Camera pans to Troy Aikman, putting on a semi-fake grin, DEJ.J. Watt maintaining a smile, and NBC news anchor Brian Williams grinning from ear to ear as he is giving a big applause)



    Seth Myers: "Manziel was fined $10,000 for an obscene gesture, then went 0-2 in his two starts, and he was spotted hanging out with Justin Bieber. When asked if he thought it affected his performance, Bieber said, 'na, I wasn't that good to begin with."



    http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2015/1...awards-announced-browns-part-of-several-jokes
     
  9. kendawg Guest

    Josh Gordon ??? !!!

    What to believe? I have seen it posted that Gordon violated the substance abuse program 6 times. I can't seem to recall more than 1-The Codiene Kid, 2 The Over/Under Marijuana, 3 Drinks on a plane (which, if I understand the requirements was added as a result of the driving under the influence episode, before which alcohol wasn't tested for??? )

    I am looking for clarity about "actual violations", the terms he has lived under, changes in those terms, if any over time.

    Gordon is cerrtainly his own worst enemy, but given the "actual violations", if we buy what Josh says, is pretty weak. Abuse is absolutley not supported. Codiene, stupid, but not perposeful, or evidence of abuse. Then a failed Marijuana test that even the NFL now aknowledges is set too low, and he was within current test parameters, which again doesn't prove abuse, and since it's a stnd alone failure over two years, also diesn't add up to abuse. Yeah it's making excuses, for failures of his own making, through stupidity, and failing to take advantage of resources available to him. Bad decisions. Yes.

    What bothers me is he keeps associating with the fringe guys, and doesn't take advantage of the resources the Browns have made available to him, to help guide his decisions, and make sure he makes informed decisions, never leaving himself open to violations based on not understanding the requirements. That lack of depth of understanding of what is required, coupled with his lack of study this season, so he could have been the difference maker we hoped he was, demonstrates his lack of maturity, and indifferent attitude toward this career, his team mates, and the team that supported him through all of this. I don't think it is a substance abuse problem, but a lack of commitment, a lack of maturity, and not understanding what it means to be a team mate, and what his peers require form him. With or without the substance violations he has failed to be the man, the player, or the team mate he could be.

    The focus on his violations misses the mark, to me. it's just the consequence he has earned, and burdened his team with, as a result of not growing up, and being a man. Can he change? doubt it, but hope so.
     
  10. kendawg Guest

    Bluez, I gotta go with Seattle.

    Belichek has been persona non grata to me since he let Bernie go.

    I will admit he has made himself into one of the NFL's best coaches, maybe of all time, but I will always wonder if we would all feel that way if a certain QB wasn't sitting on the bench when Bledsoe went down

    Add in Spygate, and this year's suspect footballs, and I just don't want to see him get another ring. Call it sour grapes.... eh, don't care. I just don't like him, and since I am neutral on Seattle, it becomes my reason to cheer for them.
     
  11. kendawg Guest

    Johnny still giving the Browns headlines. At least there's that, and unfortunately that may also have been a big part of why he was chosen. That first commercial, where he's leding a womens' workout........... it may have been forshadowing.

    Anyway, I'm sorry I didn't watch the show now.
     
  12. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    There needs to be a silver lining, they need to go out on top...

    TIME TO RETIRE TOM AND BILL!!
     
  13. kendawg Guest

    Visions of Byner falling into the end zone without the ball................ Crap
     
  14. Here's the difference in winning in a team sport and always losing in a team sport and I heard it out of the best QB in this generations mouth, Tom Brady. When asked after the SB what he thought about the Seahawk interception at the goal line he said. " ALL YEAR LONG THIS TEAM HAS HAD EACH OTHERS BACK, SO IT DIDN'T SURPRISE ME."

    Do any of you diehards think with all the turmoil this year with the Browns that they had each others backs? All we heard about all year long was the locker room was divided by Johnny Drunk/Hoyer then how guys treated Pothead differently. Players copping attitudes! LEADERSHIP! All players working for that Lombardi Trophy! Do you guy's think the Browns did that this year? HELL NO THEY DIDN'T. The Patriots have more SB the last 16 years than the Browns have winning seasons! GET RID OF THE DRUNK AND THE POTHEAD and attract some winners with that money you have. The Browns are not going to attract many but a few are better than the bust picks last year they drafted.

    The word for this franchise this off season should be LEADERSHIP! Lets see how they do with a chit load of money and picks?
     
  15. KD you think? It sure the hell wasn't to win football games. But now your on the right track!
     
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  18. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

    So Manziel enters rehab ..will it help him ? even if it does he doesn't have the skill set to play with the big boys on Sunday .

    just admit you made a HUGE MISTAKE Drafting the little weasel and move on .

    I hate to say I was right about him . besides turning my stomach which he has the last two years even before I threw up last draft day when I saw his name and the little piece of shit flashing his money sign as he strutted on stage wearing a Browns cap :! *ROSE* . it just means we blew another first round pick .

    if Gilbert doesn't get his shit together we wasted the two first round picks from last year *WALL* ..way to go Farmer .MORON ..CLUELESS MORON *BYE*
     
  19. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

    :( ..A lasting image for sure . same as MR Ed and those front teeth I still want to knock out *WASSUP*
     
  20. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

    BEREA, Ohio -- Browns quarterback Johnny Manziel entered into treatment for unspecified reasons on Wednesday.

    The Browns released a statement shortly after a story appeared on Cleveland.com concerning Manziel entering a treatment facility.

    A friend and advisor to Manziel and his family, has confirmed that Johnny entered treatment on Wednesday.

    "Johnny knows there are areas he needs to improve on to help him be a better family member, friend and teammate, so he decided to take this step in his life during the offseason," Brad Beckworth said in the statement released by the team. "On behalf of Johnny and his family, we're asking for privacy until he rejoins the team in Cleveland."

    General manager Ray Farmer, who was supportive of Manziel at an end of the season press conference also made a statement.

    "We respect Johnny's initiative in this decision and will fully support him throughout this process," Farmer said. "Our players' health and well-being will always be of the utmost importance to the Cleveland Browns.

    "We continually strive to create a supportive environment and provide the appropriate resources, with our foremost focus being on the individual and not just the football player," he said. "Johnny's privacy will be respected by us during this very important period and we hope that others will do the same."

    Manziel's activities during the offseason and through the season have been chronicled regularly on social media.
     

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