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Discussion in 'Cleveland Browns' started by bluez, Apr 3, 2013.

  1. Man this team looks like chit! Starting to be an every week thing! Ken and I were just chatting about COACHING and LEADERSHIP! I've known there isn't to many leaders as far as offense goes but I'm starting to think there is no leadership in the coaching also! That's not a good thing! This team for a couple weeks have looked disgusting! Coaching, Talent and Execution! During this losing streak I have seen all 3 phases fail terribly! It's not rocket science! But the Browns are making it look like it is!
     
  2. I just clicked out of here and went to my Yahoo home page. There is an article about the Browns exploring ALL options this off season on the QB position. That included trading our 1st 2 picks to grab Mariota. It continued to say that Farmer is SMITTEN with Mariota and that JM's contract is cap friendly enough to keep both QB's.

    I mentioned that before I read this on yahoo. It also said the Browns may not be that sold on Manziel! get ready boys I think we are in store for a trade up for Mariota!
     
  3. brett11253 Brett Blue Jackets Browns Indians

    After all that were up 13-10 and have this thing in our grasp!
     
  4. kendawg Guest

    Did Hoyer just put together another come back win? Man he's a good backup
     
  5. brett11253 Brett Blue Jackets Browns Indians

    I don't think one of these calls has went our way today.
     
  6. brett11253 Brett Blue Jackets Browns Indians

    Way to bail your QB out Benjamin. Wow
     
  7. Hell of a play by Benji! Great hustle! Kuechley looks sick after that play! I still wish we had an ILB like that!
     
  8. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

    Scott Solomon looks like a keeper . he was everywhere today . harassing Newton and being stout against the run .


    where was Dilbert to day ?
     
  9. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

    On a day when Johnny Manziel didn?t make it to halftime, the other Hesiman-winning quarterback provided plenty of excitement, as well as a playoff-saving win.

    While Cam Newton threw one of the most ridiculous interceptions you?ll ever see, he also led the Panthers to a game-winning touchdown drive in the fourth quarter, helping them to a 17-13 win over the Browns.

    The Panthers had to hang on through a fourth quarter of ridiculous swings, including an 81-yard touchdown pass from Brian Hoyer to Jordan Cameron.

    But Newton answered with a scrambling play that turned out much better, running around and buying enough time to find Jonathan Stewart open in the end zone for the decisive score.

    The Panthers improved to 6-8-1, and can earn a playoff berth with a win at Atlanta.

    Manziel left the game just before halftime with a hamstring strain, and didn?t return. That might have been the best thing for the Browns, as Manziel was 3-of-8 passing for 32 yards before he left.
     
  10. DvlDawg Starter Browns

    I really hope that Manziel is ok. I hate to see anyone hurt. I'm still open to him proving me wrong about him.

    I have a confession to make, guys. I was supposed to go to this game..... I backed out and sold my tix.


    It's my fault they lost.


    I have been to 7 Browns games live.


    I've never seen them lose in person........ :[
     
  11. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    Guys,

    I have some serious chit going on in my family right now. I didn't want you to think I was pissed off or anything and left, just have some higher (much higher) priorities going on now. Hope to be back when the dust settles.
     
  12. DvlDawg Starter Browns

    Best wishes bud. I hope that everything works out.
     
  13. kendawg Guest

    God bless. Lym
     
  14. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

    best wishes Lyman ..if you need something let us know .
     
  15. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

    Browns lose Johnny Manziel to injury; lose fourth-straight game


    CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) -- The Carolina Panthers never quit on the season, and now have a chance to repeat as NFC South champions.

    Cam Newton threw for one touchdown and ran for another, and the Panthers defeated the Cleveland Browns 17-13 on Sunday to take sole possession of first place in the division.

    The victory sets up a winner-take-all showdown next Sunday at Atlanta between the Panthers (6-8-1) and Falcons (6-9) for the division title. It also guarantees a team without even a .500 record will win the NFC South.

    The winner will join the 2010 Seattle Seahawks as the only teams to reach the postseason in a non-strike-shortened season with a losing record.

    "Now it all comes down to one game and that's all we can ask for is to be in that situation," Panthers coach Ron Rivera said.

    The Panthers have now won three straight after going more than two months without a victory. The Browns (7-8) were eliminated from contention when San Diego beat San Francisco on Saturday.

    Newton threw for 201 yards and ran for 63 just 12 days after the quarterback suffered two fractures in his lower back following an automobile accident. Jonathan Stewart ran for 122 yards and caught a 9-yard touchdown pass from Newton.

    "It speaks to his toughness," Rivera said of Newton.

    Johnny Manziel made his second NFL start for Cleveland, left with 1:49 left in the first half with a hamstring injury and did not return.

    The Panthers led most of the game before Browns tight end Jordan Cameron got behind the secondary and hauled in an 81-yard touchdown pass from Brian Hoyer. That gave Cleveland its first lead of the game at 13-10 with about 10 minutes remaining.

    The Browns had just 126 yards on offense before that play and just 228 yards all afternoon.

    But Newton, looking healthy and mobile in escaping from the pocket, drove the Panthers back downfield. He completed a 9-yard pass to Stewart, who slipped out of the backfield untouched and found an open pocket in the end zone.

    Carolina appeared to seal the game when cornerback Josh Norman intercepted a deep Hoyer pass on Cleveland's next possession. But the flamboyant cornerback returned the ball, holding it away from his body with one hand, and fumbled it back to the Browns when hit from behind.

    That gave the Browns one last shot.

    But Carolina's defense held, with Kawann Short coming up with a big sack on Hoyer, and Thomas Davis making an open field tackle to force a punt with less than four minutes remaining.

    Carolina put the game away when Stewart broke off a 30-yard run on third-and-6.

    The Panthers led 10-3 at halftime behind a 2-yard run by Newton on a bootleg late in the second quarter. Newton faked a handoff to Mike Tolbert and followed a key block by tight end Greg Olsen into the end zone.

    A few minutes later Manziel sprinted out to his left. Linebacker Luke Kuechly and safety Colin Jones converged on Manziel, taking him to the ground for a 1-yard loss. Manziel attempted to get up, then fell back to the ground.

    He finished 3 of 8 for 32 yards. He also ran twice for 3 yards.

    Hoyer was 7 of 13 for 134 yards with one touchdown and one interception.
     
  16. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

    Updated at 5:55 p.m.

    As the Browns struggle to identify their quarterback to lead them, their defense was beat by a quarterback with a broken back.

    Yes, two weeks after suffering two fractures in his lower back in a car accident, Carolina?s Cam Newton ran and passed the Panthers to the winning touchdown in a 17-13 Browns? loss.

    Newton had runs of 6 and 13 yards and was 3 of 4 passing on the winning drive. He extended the last play amid pressure and fired to running back Jonathan Stewart for the touchdown from 9 yards to send the Browns to their fourth loss in a row and sixth in seven games. The team that was once 6-3 now is 7-8 with a Dec. 28 finale left in Baltimore.

    ?It?s frustrating, disappointing,? Pettine said. ?We got to seven wins and had a lot of football left and we?re still stuck there. We had our chances today, had our chances two weeks ago. We?ve got to find a way to finish.?

    The Browns had taken their first lead in two weeks on a Jordan Cameron catch-and-run of 81 yards with 10:11 to go in the fourth quarter.

    The author of the pass was Brian Hoyer, who relieved Johnny Manziel late in the first half after Manziel suffered a hamstring injury.

    ?That?s probably the first time I smiled on the football field in the last month,? Hoyer said of the quick-read, quick-throw to Cameron, who got behind a safety and never looked back.

    After Newton?s go-ahead touchdown, Hoyer had one more possession. He underthrew Travis Benjamin on a deep ball that was intercepted. But Benjamin tracked down cornerback Josh Norman on his return, swatted the ball free and recovered it at the Browns? 29-yard line. Hoyer advanced the ball for two first downs, before coach Mike Pettine elected to punt from the 50 with 3:33 to play.

    Pettine said the Browns would have gone for it on fourth down if it were less than 10 yards to go. But he punted on fourth-and-13, and the defense couldn?t get the ball back.

    Newton threw for just 201 yards, but he ran for 63 and a touchdown and Stewart added 122. In all, the Panthers gashed the Browns? defense for 209 rushing yards on 45 attempts.

    The Browns were pathetic again on offense, achieving just eight first downs and 228 total yards. Isaiah Crowell (55 yards rushing on 16 attempts) handled most of the rushing load because Terrance West was benched for another bad practice week.

    Manziel was just 3 of 8 for 32 yards ? and 28 came on one completion to Andrew Hawkins. Although he left the game after a run on which two defenders fell on him, Manziel said the hamstring injury occurred four plays earlier on a quick pass to a slanting Josh Gordon. Gordon?s catch of the pass was overturned on replay and Garrett Hartley kicked a 43-yard field goal for the only points in Manziel?s six quarters as the starting quarterback.

    ?My foot kind of slipped about three, four, five inches and I ended up falling down,? Manziel said. ?Got up and just kind of felt just a little tight in my hamstring.?

    After the quarterback sweep, Manziel said he got up and cramped up and ?I just felt like something that I hadn?t experienced beofer and felt like I needed to get checked out. Pretty frustrating.?

    The anti-Manziel crowd in Bank of America Stadium cheered derisively as Manziel left the game. Newton admonished the fans after the game.

    ?I?m a fan of his, just like a lot of people are,? Newton said of Manziel. ?It was sad to see the crowd respond when he was hurt. That was classless. It takes the integrity out of the game. I told him I was pulling for him. For the crowd to do that, we?re better than that.?

    Hoyer finished the first half, came out for the second half and played through. He put together a field-goal drive in the third quarter, running for gains of 11 and 8 yards to set up Hartley?s 31-yard kick.

    The quick-hitter to Cameron gave the Browns a 13-10 lead with 9:59 to play.

    Hoyer was 7 of 13 for 134 yards in his first appearance since being benched after his 13-game run as the starter.

    ?I?ve been a backup before. I know how to prepare and be ready,? said Hoyer, who took zero reps with the first team in the practice week.

    Hoyer was sacked on his back on his next-to-last play by defensive tackle Kawann Short and needed a timeout to regain regular breathing.

    ?We knew Hoyer was not a run-threat like Manziel, so we had a lot more free space when Hoyer came in,? Short said. ?You can tell the difference. We were relentless. We didn?t care about the scramble.?

    Besides benching West, the Browns also reduced play time for cornerback Justin Gilbert. With Joe Haden unable to play because of his shoulder injury, Pettine surprised some by starting Pierre Desir ahead of Gilbert. Desir was targeted over a dozen times by Newton, but the fourth-round rookie helped to hold strapping rookie receiver Kelvin Benjamin to just five receptions for 47 yards on 12 targets.

    ?I thought he made some plays,? Pettine said. ?He had a better week (than Gilbert) and we had a little more confidence in him. As to the follow-up about Terrance, neither guy had a very good week for us.?

    As to which quarterback finishes the season in Baltimore, Pettine was non-commital without knowing the severity of Manziel?s injury.

    Manziel answered only five questions before a Browns PR staff member cut off his post-game interview after five minutes. Manziel turned the final question about how much more comfortable he felt into a rambling appeal to be the team?s starting quarterback heading into the offseason.

    ?I think these guys see more and see that I?m in the building really putting in a lot of work and I want to be the guy,? Manziel said. ?That?s what I want to be fore this organization, so for me, if anything, this has motivated me more to head into this offseason.?



    There will be plenty of time to stew about the next step in the Browns? eternal quest for a quarterback.
     
  17. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians


    draft some more knuckleheads Farmer *WALL*
     
  18. crextin Franchise Player Browns


    Best wishes Lym, Hope you still are able to have a Merry Christmas.

    Take care and God Bless
     
  19. Hope everything works out for you Lym, prayers and thoughts go to you and your family!
     
  20. Good luck and prayers to you right now Lym! I believe in keeping it between the lines. Hope every thing is alright with you and your family!
     

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