Bluez, Reid does get pass happy at times, but Westbrook was a beast during his time in Philly. He knows how to use his RBs, but last yr he felt his defense was weak and needed to outscore opponents.
I'm not the only one who shares that opinion...I hear it all the time from National Media... However, we will find out in 2013...the Browns and Chiefs are in very similar situations from a personnel perspective on offense. Should be easy to guage...In fact I would have to give the Chiefs a leg up on WR experience, so he should excel, wouldn't you agree?
Don't need to hit the + to know what you put behind it...I wish this were a gameshow, any Browns fan on these boards would automatically win on that response...
I mean, you did just kind of softball that one to me. Wouldn't it have been something if I had put wide receiver or free safety, though?
I know is wasn't directed at me, but I'd like to take it. I can see the Chiefs having a strong surge this season and easily getting back to .500 by year's end. You've got a slumping San Diego team, the ever-awful Raiders and only the Broncos to keep them in check. The Chiefs weren't "2-14 bad" last season. They were a 10-6 and 7-9 squad the two years prior. Honestly... I wouldn't compare the Browns and Chiefs. And I certainly wouldn't give Reid the credit for the "turn-around".
First, I disagree, the QB same as all positions are toss ups at this time...I really believe that to be true...I do believe that a young gun will need to be found over the course of the next 3 offseasons though regardless. Even if Weeden comes in and throws 35 TDs to 5 INTs this season. A 31 year old QB needs a viable guy sitting in the wings learning how to be a NFL QB.. You just never know what year that aging QB will digress, when it happens it usually occurs rapidly. Second, I wouldn't have known if you did put WR or S...I didn't even look, but that tells me I was right on...
Well just for poops and giggles... Franchise LT Advantage Browns Browns Joe Thomas Chiefs Brandon Albert/Eric Fisher QB...question marks...push based on Smith's history out side of Harbaugh Browns a "young" Brandon Weeden, not sure what we will see improvement wise Chiefs Alex Smith, considered a bust in every system except for Jim Harbaugh's, will he digress in this new system? RB Advantage Chiefs(at this point, but doubtful it stays that way in 2013) Browns Trent Richardson...one of the positions I feel we will see a huge increase in productivity this season Chiefs Jamaal Charles, If healthy might have a leg up... WR Advantage Chiefs Top Ten WR Browns 0(although the homer in me expects Josh Gordon to take a huge leap this year) Chiefs Dwayne Bowe Complimentary WR Browns Greg Little Chiefs Jon Baldwin/Donny Avery(whom can't stay healthy) TE push Browns Cameron Jordan Browns seem to have faith since they didn't hire an upgrade Chiefs Tony Moeaki can't stay healthy Personally, I think they grade out pretty damn even...personnel wise...
Im not sure watching KC and Browns will make the OC better or worse....Reid can call a perfect pass play and Bowe drops it or Turner can do the same.
Cleveland Browns owner Jimmy Haslam apologized to fellow owners during their spring meetings this week in Boston for any unwanted attention a federal investigation into his company has brought to the franchise and the NFL less than a year after he purchased the team. Haslam's five-minute talk with fellow owners was unscheduled. He asked commissioner Roger Goodell for permission to explain the probe of Pilot Flying J, his family business, and the steps being taken to handle the situation. "I thought it was important," Haslam told USA Today. "We're partners in the NFL. I wanted to address them face to face." His candor apparently left a good impression with fellow owners. "Personally, hearing Mr. Haslam explain his full situation, I was very touched by it," New York Giants co-owner Steve Tisch said. "The complexity of the situation, I don't fully understand. But he was open. I admire him for taking a very proactive position. "He is the new kid in town in terms of NFL ownership. And to sort of deal with an issue like this in the first quarter is impressive." Haslam's Flying J headquarters was raided in April as part of a federal fraud investigation, but Haslam has continued to say the company did nothing wrong, that he had no prior knowledge of any alleged improprieties and that steps are being taken determine what happened. "I know he feels a sense of embarrassment," New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft said. "He said they're going to do everything they can to get it under control and put it behind them, and that he felt bad for the attention that it brought to the Cleveland franchise and the NFL, and he was going to make it right." ...
i figured somebody would . its win win for you . i hope its a win for the Browns either way . if Hardesty comes out this year and does something like contribute all season long i will take back half of what i said about him ..half thats all he gets after it took him 4 seasons to produce .
The skinny ? The Browns held their first OTA with both rookies and vets this week. Over the next three weeks the Browns will hold practices Tuesday through Thursday and the media will only be allowed to view the final day of each week. The team has also instituted ?media reporting guidelines? which prevent us from telling the fans about trick plays, who played with which units, and how many reps players were taking. Essentially we can?t tell you anything you really want to know. Here is the best of the rest though? Tempo, tempo, tempo ? Since the very first time Rob Chudzinski spoke with the media in Cleveland as a head coach, he was preaching fast and aggressive football. Thursday?s practice certainly lived up to the billing. Neither Shurmur nor Mangini ever had a practice this fast paced and competitive. Chudzinski did however have an element of Mangini?s program: Loud music. The music played as a soundtrack to an intense two hours of team drills. Mix in the yelling by players and coaches and it was quite an entertaining afternoon. The QB pressure cooker ? I had been told that Brandon Weeden did not look very good through the first two days of OTAs and this was confirmed on Thursday. Weeden himself admitted this was his worst day of the week. He struggled to find the open read on many throws, missed a few open receivers and had multiple miscommunications with his wide outs. Jason Campbell didn?t look much better. While Weeden throws a better ball, Campbell seemed more comfortable finding the correct read. Once he found that read, however, he did not consistently deliver the ball in a place that led receivers away from the defender. It was a rough day for the QBs. It is unwise to read too deeply into the third day of OTAs but I certainly wasn?t the only one who noticed the poor play. Just hours after practice ended the Browns reportedly agreed to a 2 year deal with quarterback Brian Hoyer. Hoyer, who Browns? GM Michael Lombardi has previously said he thought could be a starter, will compete with Weeden and Campbell. ?I think Brian Hoyer and Ryan Mallett are starters. I?ve said this many times: If I would have taken the GM job of the 49ers, I would have gone after Brian Hoyer, because I think he has all the traits and characteristics. If I were the Cleveland Browns, I?d rather have Brian Hoyer behind center than Colt McCoy. I think he?s got all the traits you need, in terms of leadership, toughness, the arm strength, the ability to move the team.? ? Michael Lombardi with WEEI Boston on December 9th, 2011. It remains to be seen exactly what job Hoyer will compete for. Will he challenge Campbell for the backup role or will the entire thing be an open competition? At the very least this move improves the overall talent of that position on the roster. Not only does this mean the end of Taddeus Lewis? tenure in Cleveland, but it also presents a challenge to Weeden mentally. The team refrained from drafting a QB which led everyone to believe that Weeden was ?the guy? moving into this season. But as Lee Corso so obnoxiously says, ?not so fast my friend!? Hoyer?s signing sent a clear message to the rest of the quarterback room: There will be competition at ALL positions. The bright side ? Whoever ends up as the quarterback of the Browns this season (for the record I still think it will be Weeden) will have a pleasant surprise. The wide receiver corps not only looks like it is NFL caliber, but it looks, dare I say, dangerous. Greg Little and Josh Gordon look confident and fluid in their routes and more aggressive to the ball once it is in the air. They will give any defensive secondary fits with their size and speed. ?No doubt about it,? Weeden responded when asked if he has seen progression in the duo. ?Not only what they are doing out here on the field but just the way they are walking through the building, studying and all those other things. They have taken the next step. They are playing faster. I think they have a lot of confidence in this system and the routes they are running. It?s exciting for me.? Devone Bess, who the Browns acquired in a trade with Miami, is the easiest player to spot on the field. If someone told you to point out who has made a career on moving the chains on third down, you could do it in less than five plays. Bess has a knack for finding the open part of the field, runs some of the cleanest routes I have seen in my time covering the NFL, and made whoever covered him look silly time and time again. Secondary is the primary concern ? After the draft, fans and media were ranting and raving about the fact that the Browns only drafted a 5?9? cornerback in Leon McFadden when they had so many other perceived needs. We will have to wait one more week to find out about Mcfadden because he is still finishing up school at San Diego State but we now know who will start at free safety. It?s Tashaun Gipson for the time being. Gipson looked good too. He will be left to cover the deep part of the field by himself most of the time because TJ Ward is moving into a role that closely resembles that of a fifth linebacker. With Ward playing near the line of scrimmage and blitzing, Gipson was the sole insurance past Joe Haden and Buster Skrine (who got the start as the second CB with McFadden still not in camp). Not only did he hold his own but Gipson actually snagged an interception when Weeden tried to fit a ball into double coverage deep down the sideline. Eric Hagg and Johnson Bademosi were the backups. I didn?t think it was possible but Haden looked better than I have ever seen him. He was absolutely dominant on his side of the field and only saw one reception against him. He broke up multiple passes and blanketed whoever he covered the entire day. That first step is a doozy ? On the first day of training camp two seasons ago I marveled at Jabaal Sheard?s first step. He was so explosive off the snap that it stood out above and beyond anyone else in his position group. Now that he is an outside linebacker, his first step is highlighted that much more. He is able to start his rush from the standing position and can use his speed to try and beat the left tackle. Unfortunately for Sheard, his first step was not the most impressive in camp. His backup, Barkevious Mingo, was everything he had been billed to be. He made Sheard look slow. He exploded toward the line of scrimmage like a sprinter out the blocks in the 100 yard dash. Both he and Sheard did not look very comfortable when they dropped back into coverage however. Time for the next step ? One of the staples of the Norv Turner?s offense is the tight end. The Browns have shown a lot of faith in Jordan Cameron by not bringing in a legitimate contender for the starting spot. The Browns need to see more from the young man. There is no doubt he has the physical attributes but once the ball is in the air he doesn?t seem to win the fight as much as you would like. Cameron has improved his route running but will need to adopt the company mantra of ?aggressive? more frequently if he doesn?t want new competition when other teams cut down their rosters.
Junkyard, it is early in the week still but Monsoons are giving a hard time Would really hate to take a bite out of that 5-2 record ya got
I guess that we dont have to wait for this shoe to drop. Now it is just a matter of time before Lewis signs with Philly. As for Gurley, I thought he was looking really good last year in the preseason and it was just a numbers crunch in GB for him not making the roster.
The Monsoons are giving waaaaay to hard of a time... My pitching staff is truly laying an egg this week! *WALL* ... The Junkyard DAWGS need to find a way to skin the goat!!!
Gurley has sure bounced around . not sure why we signed him ? most team take 4 QB'S to camp . we have three on the roster now .i wish Lewis the best . he played well in a bad situation against the Steelers .
what a competitive league we have .i am proud of all of you . everyone is keeping up .some very close games . i am trying to claw back into contention . i hope the trades i made pay off for me and my trading partners . i think i am done making moves for awhile . let things settle down and see how these guys perform . i love FBB *DRINK*
