Well, obviously everyone is different, but show me the other 1st round draft picks that are making an immediate impact to their teams? Truth is bluez, Gilbert is getting better...He actually had a nice game against the Jaguars. Something to build on I personally think.
one of my fondest memories of posting at cBS was the quote box which would swallow entire posts. to this day, i can't decide which was funnier - the error itself, or the ~ 18 months it took them to fix it.
Speaking of our draft, I am not displeased with Kirksey. He plays like a beast for only being 14 inches tall. [video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1vpodIEG8c[/video]
This is for u Irish....glad the LB is ok http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/kentucky-football/kentucky-baker-lays-big-hit-lsu-2014/
Browns vs. Oakland Raiders Sunday, 4:25 p.m., in FirstEnergy Stadium Record: 0-6. Last game: Lost to Arizona Cardinals, 24-13, Oct. 18, in Oakland, CA. Coach: Tony Sparano, 0-2, (interim); 29-34 overall. Series record: Raiders lead, 13-9 (counting postseason). Last meeting: Browns won, 20-17, Dec. 2, 2012, in Oakland. League rankings: Offense is 32nd overall (32nd rushing, 26th passing), defense is 22nd (29th rushing, 11th passing) and turnover differential is minus-4. Offensive overview: With rookie Derek Carr entrenched as the starting quarterback, Sparano has tried to scale back the offense. Carr has quietly put together a decent start to his career (8 touchdowns v. 5 interceptions), but you?d never know it looking at the offense?s rankings ? 32nd in total yards, 32nd in rushing and 31st in points. The rushing figure sabotages everything because offensive coordinator Greg Olson would like to use the running game to set up play-action, like his former mentor Jon Gruden. Free agent Maurice Jones-Drew was signed to wrestle away the feature back role from Darren McFadden, but hand surgery cost him time and now he is a backup. McFadden (3.8 yards a rush) is not the player he was three years ago. The team?s longest run of 41 yards was produced by Carr. Despite the unproductive running game, Carr?s pass protection has been outstanding (four sacks in 199 dropbacks). He leans on veteran wideout James Jones (30 receptions) and gets big plays from 6-4 wideout Andre Holmes (16.8-yard average), who can go up and get the throw-it-up balls, but can also break a QB?s heart with drops. Defensive overview: Jason Tarver was retained as defensive coordinator after Dennis Allen was fired, but some subtle changes have emerged since Sparano assumed the job as interim coach. Downsizing the gameplan has resulted in more players being rotated in with the hope of keeping the unit fresher and faster. It has a terrible time getting off the field. Opponents are converted a league-high 52.8 percent of third downs. That figure would be higher if not for three kneeldowns among the Raiders? 40 ?stops.? Rookie linebacker Khalil Mack has been an ironman, seldom leaving the field, and is flying all over against the run but has yet to produce a sack in the pass rush. Like most teams, they show 3-4 and 4-3 looks and sometimes have standup ends rush the quarterback while other linemen drop back into zone coverage. The defense is loaded with minimum-wage veterans on their second or third team who aren?t the players they were with their first teams, such as end LaMarr Woodley, end Justin Tuck and cornerback Carlos Rogers. But don?t count Charles Woodson in that group. At 38, the free safety is still covering a lot of ground and making plays from sideline to sideline. Special teams overview: Kicker Sebastian Janikowski is 5 of 6 on field goals with a long of 53 yards and ranks 25th with 15 touchbacks. Janikowski lost trust in punter Marquette King as the holder and a recent change resulted in backup quarterback Matt Schaub taking over the role. King is 30th in gross punting (43.3 yards) and 11th in net (40.4). Rookie TJ Carrie is 10th in punt return average (9.4 yards) and had a 60-yard return last week erased by penalty. Carrie recently assumed kick returns, too, and has a 24.3 average. The coverage teams have yielded a 29-yard punt return and a kickoff return of 44 yards. Players to watch: 1. Quarterback Derek Carr: Not a sack waiting to happen like his older brother David was, he?s completing 60.5 percent of his passes, has 8 touchdowns v. 5 interceptions and has managed a decent passer rating of 80.9 through his first six starts. 2. Free safety Charles Woodson: The 2009 NFL defensive player of the year, his 13 defensive touchdowns are tied for the most in league history. He is the league?s active leader with 58 career interceptions and needs one Pick 6 to tie Rod Woodson?s career record of 12. 3. Wide receiver Andre Holmes: At 6-4, he has a wide catching radius and can come down with jump balls. He is a big play threat with a 16.8-yard receiving average and three touchdowns. Injury report: FS Usama Young (knee) is out; DE Justin Tuck (knee) and FB Marcel Reese (knee) missed the last game; DE Lamarr Woodley (undisclosed) left the last game. WR Vincent Brown (hamstring) has missed the last two games. Small world: Interim head coach Tony Sparano was on the Browns? coaching staff in 1999 and 2000 ? free safety Usama Young played with the Browns in 2011-12. Carr was my first choice at QB for the Browns to take . could have been had in the second round .
This is what I have been talking about all year. They MUST be able to convert 3rd downs. If the run game is not producing big, then Hoyer must get into a rhythm early and often to make these 3rd downs manageable. If he can't then we need to look at something else on offense. You better believe teams from this week on will be stacking the line to stop the run. They need to find something to loosen up that front! If they stack, then quick hitters on slants and crossing routes until they loosen up..Hoyer MUST be accurate in order to gain more than 3 yards a pop..
So, does this mean a) you would want him to start ahead of Hoyer b) you would prefer him over Joel Bitonio, who is currently ranked as the #1 rookie in the NFL right now (albeit on Bleacher Report which is not a highly thought of site)
Im not debating ur post Irish, but how can any site rank a G #1 compared 2 RBs, WRs, QBs etc...I wuld like 2 see that formula
He has been opening holes that helped the Browns rise to the #4 run offense in the NFL prior to the Jaguars game. Every other rookie had been inconsistent up to that point, where he had been the model of consistency which led a Browns turn around from #27 in 2013 to #4 in 2014 and he was the only player added to that unit. Now you can argue Shanahan made that running game go, but Bitonio stepped in and between his run blocking, and maybe more importantly his pass protection, he can easily be looked upon as one of the top rookie players to this point... Who EXACTLY would you have ranked higher? I am assuming you mean Bortles, who is ranked out of the top in any category at his position... The running backs, not even sure who you are considering higher than Bitonio...Crowell, if not for the return of Ben Tate, would be considered one of the highest rookie RBs. And of course the WRs...Well, this one comes down to consistency. Which WR has been at the top of the game for even the majority of their teams games played? Bitonio has been one of the highest ranked guards in the NFL, not just on the Browns team for 5 of their 6 games.
Yup. Ranked 13th among WRs in yards and tied for 3rd in TDs. Factor in that he's really the only weapon and he's still a rookie with only 7 games experience. He's been pretty damn good.
The only category that Benjamin is mentioned in is TDs, where he is tied for #8 in the league with 5 TDs Our own Taylor Gabriel is ranked #6 in yards per catch at 18.4 That is why some are considering Bitonio the top rookie to date, because he has produced at a very high level consistently since week one.
This is beyond hilarious....ur talking bout 1/5 of a unit compared to players that score TDs. I already ranked my players above and theres no question I wuld take those guys...all I asked was how he became #1 on the rookie list...how do they determine it for an OL...it seems IMPOSSIBLE to make that statement like Bleacher report did.
