*WALL* I think Google is broken!! I can't find a list of Oilers QBs by their number!! At least PM me bluez if i'm wrong, this is going to drive me bonkers...I missed the Mathews Brothers pick before I texted...I should have known you would eventually show that one!!
Been there . . . Done that. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/uniform.cgi?number=12&team=oti
The Browns , Oilers had some classic matchups before the greedy stupid may they both rot in hell owners decided to move both franchises *WASSUP*
How did you guys not know Kenny Stabler? lol! That one wasn't very hard...That was late in his career when he became an interception throwing machine... btw: Bluez, the old orange chevy "dawg pound" wagon with the dawg house on top. Those guys used to bring that whole dog house into the stadium and set it up right front of the dawg pound. And for a loooong time they got away with smuggling a keg of beer into the stadium inside that thing. lol! I remember those dudes back in 86. They hooked me up with a beer or two back in the day, even though I wasn't quite old enough (18)...That's a great pic. What great memories...That was back when the "top dawg" Hanford Dixon created the whole "dawg" thing in Cleveland...Those were some crazy crowds! Nobody taunted the dawgpound back then. Rowdy doesn't even begin to describe it. Had to be one of the most intimidating places for an opposing team in NFL history.
I remember seeing those guys a couple of times. I remember that it took four guys to carry the doghouse in and only two to carry it out. Still LMAO at that.
being the old dog I am, I knew it was the Snake right away, but honestly didn't remember him in Oilers uniform, but the left handed stance and the facial hair gave it away for me. I loved that guy, back in the day. The epitome of what it was to be a Raider.
The Morning Kickoff ? Sorry for your loss: The last time I spoke to Kevin Gold, Browns long snapper Ryan Pontbriand was ricocheting the ball off the leg of a lineman, throwing the kicking team into all sorts of discombobulation. It was November of 2011. The Pro Bowl specialist was suffering double- and triple-clutches and it was the talk of the long snapping community. Yes, there is one. Gold is kind of the guru of long snappers. A certified player agent, he started longsnap.com in 2000 after signing his first client, Rob Davis, a long snapper with the Green Bay Packers, to track and compile a data base on the most specialized position in pro football. This time, Gold expected my call. ?I guess it?s about time there in Cleveland again,? he said in the hushed tones of a funeral director. Gold was all up to speed on the troubles of Christian Yount, his bad snaps in all three games, how one resulted in a botched PAT that made for a nervous fourth quarter against New Orleans, and how two others contributed ever-so-slightly in a missed Billy Cundiff field goal and then one that was blocked in a two-point loss to Baltimore. ?I know him,? Gold said of Yount. ?Followed him in college. I haven?t talked to him lately. He?s always been pretty steady and reliable. But I?ve seen all the snaps. Anytime there?s a bad snap, somebody tells me. ?It looks to me like he?s just, uh, ? you hope he gets it back together, but the signs are there that he?s having some trouble and it?s becoming a mental thing. I think the punt snaps have been OK. It?s been the short snaps. You usually don?t like to see them low and high and become erratic.? Yount?s leash got shorter this week when the Browns signed Charley Hughlett to the practice squad after a tryout. The coaches probably will make a decision after Friday?s practice on whether Yount loses his job. ?He?s probably already pretty down on himself and now you bring in another kid. He?s either going to rebound or it?s unfortunately going to get worse,? Gold said. The psychology of snapping: How do they lose it so fast? Yount replaced Pontbriand over the last four games of 2011, was flawless over 16 games in 2012, and had one bad snap in 16 games in 2013. Prior to the 2013 season, the Browns rewarded Yount with a five-year contract for $4.2 million, including a $500,000 bonus. He?s only 26. It?s not as if his wrist developed arthritis. ?I always look at the next snap,? Gold said. ?In most cases, these guys have a one-time blip and then they?re back at it. When they get concerned, and when I get concerned, it?s the next snap. It?s like a left-handed reliever who gives up a home run. What happens to the next batter? ?Most guys, if they have one that?s bad or not perfect, they usually rebound pretty quickly and they have a short memory and it?s not an issue. But the bottom line, when I start to see two, it?s usually an issue, like what happened with Ryan. It no longer became muscle memory or routine. He was thinking about it and double- and triple-clutching the ball. I think the short answer is if you know the snapper?s thinking about it, then you?re done. It?s tough to come back from.? I mentioned ?the yips.? Gold spoke of Steve Blass, Steve Sax, Chuck Knoblauch ? baseball players who had infamous struggles with the demons that blocked their ability to make simple throws of the ball. ?All of a sudden it becomes one of those things where something you did all your life, so simple, so routine, you just can?t do it anymore,? Gold said. Evolution of a specialty: In bygone days, long snapping was a second job for a backup player at another position. Most were offensive linemen, but not always. In the mid-1980s, the Browns? long snapper was Scott Nicolas, a linebacker. Somewhere along the line, it become a highly specialized position that took years of training to perfect. ?It?s a tough position,? said Chris Tabor, Browns special teams coordinator. ?Honestly, you?re asking a guy to throw the ball back 14, 15 yards at .65 to .70 (seconds) and has to finish with his head between his legs to make sure the ball gets back there, then lift his head up fast enough with all these moving parts with fast people going at a fast rate of speed and you?re asking him to block them. I don?t think it?s easy.? Gold said, ?It?s probably the one position where somebody can go in their backyard and say, ?I can do this.? But they?re not doing it in pads and they?re not doing it in a helmet and they don?t have to get the laces out and somebody?s not on each of their shoulders about to knock them down when it happens. What people don?t understand is all the different things that go into it.? The most famous case of a snapper losing it was Trey Junkin, the older brother of epic Browns draft bust Mike Junkin. Trey snapped wholly flawlessly for 19 NFL seasons through 2002. He was coaxed out of retirement for the playoffs by then-Giants coach Jim Fassel. Junkin had two errant snaps in the playoff game, the last costing the Giants a chance at a game-winning field goal. They lost, 39-38, to the 49ers, cementing Junkin?s unfortunate legacy. Gold recalled the swift demise of Pontbriand after nine seasons in 2011. He made the Pro Bowl two times. ?It just goes to show,? he said. ?It?s the same snap he did in elementary school, high school, college. Ninety-five percent of them are able to recover, but when you don?t recover on that next snap it?s like a death spiral and you just can?t get out of it. It?s a shame. He had a tremendous career, really. ?I talked to him about a year ago. He was doing some financial services in Texas and also training long snappers.? I said goodbye. ?Hopefully we won?t have to talk again,? Gold said.
Jeff had been in business for 25 years. Finally sick of the stress, he quits his job and buys 50 acres of land in Alaska as far from humanity as possible. He sees the postman once a week and gets groceries once a month. Otherwise it's total peace and quiet. After six months or so of almost total isolation, someone knocks on his door. He opens it and a huge, bearded man is standing there. "Name's Stan, your nearest neighbor from forty miles up the road. Having a New Year's Eve party. Thought you might like to come. It'll start at about 6:00." "Great", says Jeff, "after six months out here I'm ready for a bit of civilization. Thank you." As Stan is leaving, he stops and turns around. "Gotta warn you. Be some drinkin!" "Not a problem" says Jeff. " I can drink with the best of 'em." Again, the big man starts to leave and stops. "More 'n' likely gonna be some fighting too." "Well, I get along with people, I'll be all right and, if not, I can handle myself pretty well .....I'll be there. Thanks again." Stan starts to walk away, but turns around "More'n likely be some wild sex, too," "Now that's really not a problem" says Jeff, warming to the idea. "I've been all alone for six months! I'll definitely be there. By the way, what should I wear?" "Don't much matter. Just gonna be the two of us
Yo Lounge Houndz *HI* Things have been a tad busy at home and at work so haven't had much time to poke my nose in and say hello. *HELP* Good memories Bluez Thx *DRINK* Took me a moment but figured out who #12 was, still love the pic of the two brothers walking off the field. I do remember watching that game. *THUMBSUP* Call me crazy, but does anyone else think that Farmer should talk to this guy's agent? Spoiler Here's to a great weekend of football. *DRINK*
Stabler was awesome when he was in the silver and black. Clutch is the word that comes to mind. It was my first heartbreaking NFL moment when his Raiders stomped Tarkington and the Vikings in SB XI. lol! I can still see Sammy White's helmet just rolling down the field after Jack Tatum destroyed him on a crossing pattern. The tone was set, and that game was never in doubt for Oakland.... I'd probably still put Kenny in my top 5 QB's that I'd want if there was only a minute left in the game and we needed a touchdown....
What a team he and Madden made. Two guys who liked to live "out loud", and keep your opinion about it to yourselves. They were the "just win baby" guys, when "politically correct" wasn't even a phrase.
Good Morning Loungers! Working today, so i'm up early. I hate missing games but the good news is I won't miss Sqeelers week, next Sunday. Bring em home winners today. WOOF !
This team makes me drink and throw things . cuss rant & rave ..the cat took off to the back of the house ..cowering in the corner ..the old lady looks at me like I am nuts *CRAZY*
Playing from behind doesn't seem to bother the Browns. The 3 headed running game looks real good. I hope the Browns have enough attitude for this game! With the late hit on Locker, the Titans are fired up! I might have to think about putting in Johnny Football this game. ATTITUDE! Hoyer is to laid back. Emotions are high in this game. You need a leader that thrives in this type of situation.
