The new DPL.

Discussion in 'Cleveland Browns' started by bluez, Apr 3, 2013.

  1. TopDawg Legend

    It seems we've seen this act before from Brian Hoyer.....How clutch was that?!

    this guy is something else....i can't help but think of Brian Sipe. Wow. That was awesome.
     
  2. I'll be honest, I was extremely nervous at the end of that game, all I could think of was "Well, I've seen the end of this movie before..." but thankfully, I was wrong, maybe this isn't the "Same old Browns" .... Last week against Pittsburgh they showed heart, this week, they got the win against a VERY good opponent! It's Crow week gentlemen....

    HERE WE GO BROWNIES, HERE WE GO... (Can a brotha get a WOOF! WOOF!?

    Side note: TD, congrats to making to the Championship in FBB, I regret to inform you... you won't be getting anymore wins this season! :D
    *KISSING* *ROSE* *KISSING* *ROSE*

    May the best (Junkyard) DAWG win! :p
     
  3. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes


    Not bad for a career journeyman backup with a bum knee, eh? :cool:
     
  4. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

    Not this time




    The emotion on Brian Hoyer?s countenance said it all as he watched the football sail through the air Sunday in the final seconds of the Browns? home opener against the New Orleans Saints.




    When Billy Cundiff?s placement sailed cleanly between the uprights from 29 yards with three seconds left to give the Browns a 26-24 victory, Hoyer, on his knees watching almost pleadingly, pitched forward in a combination of utter joy and relief.




    He rolled, it seemed almost helplessly, onto his front side with his feet rising up behind him. It was as though an enormous weight had been lifted, not only on him, but his teammates, who celebrated with unbridled joy.




    The Browns? quarterback had never before led a team from behind in the final moments of a National Football League game. Until now. And the importance of what he eventually accomplished welled up inside and finally escaped.




    The kid from Cleveland started what turned out to be the winning drive from his 4-yard line with just 2:36 left and a one-point deficit. All he needed to do was get close enough for a field goal. Now you have to understand that Browns fans are conditioned to think something is going to go wrong in the final stages of a game and their team in a position win.




    Sometimes, it?s a fumble. Other times, it?s an intercepted pass or a penalty at the wrong time or the coaching staff working its magic with clock mismanagement. You name it and the Browns, at least the Browns since 1999, unfailingly find a way to blow it.




    As a kid growing up in Cleveland, Hoyer had seen it many times. This time, though, he could finally do something about it. But he had to do it the hard way, starting the final drive with his back scraping his goal line and three timeouts in his back pocket.




    In what seemed like an eternity, Hoyer masterfully engineered an 85-yard drive in 14 plays and, with a little help from replay and a large dose of good fortune on third and fourth downs, put his team in a position to win.




    It started poorly with an incomplete pass and a one-yard loss for running back Terrance West. But the Browns caught a break on the latter play as the Saints were penalized for a neutral zone infraction. So instead of third-and-11 at the 3, they had second-and-5 at the 9. A four-yard run by West and a four-yard third-down completion to Miles Austin opened up some room.




    Another third-down completion to Austin, who scored the Browns? first touchdown in the first quarter, kept the chains moving. And without a 10-yarder to tight end Gary Barnidge on fourth-and-6 at the Cleveland 38 with 26 seconds left, we are not talking about a victory.




    On the next play, with just 19 seconds remaining, Hoyer and Austin hooked up on a 13-yarder when the veteran wide receiver smartly came back along the left sideline to help out his scrambling quarterback. The clock wound down to eight seconds as all of Browns Nation screamed for a timeout.




    The replay official called for a review, upheld the call on the field, reset the clock to 15 seconds and the Browns did not have to take the timeout. Then it happened. But this time, it happened to the opposition.




    On second-and-10 at the Saints? 39 ? well out of Cundiff?s range ? with 13 seconds left, the Browns needed a miracle. It arrived in the form of a blown coverage by the Saints' secondary and Hoyer found a stumbling, bumbling, I-can?t-believe-I?m-this-wide-open Andrew Hawkins by his lonesome around the New Orleans 20.




    Browns Nation held its collective breath as the slightly underthrown pass floated toward Hawkins. Just catch the damn thing, they thought. He did and was brought down at the 11.




    But then came the negative thoughts again. After all, the reason the Browns trailed by a point was due to a bad snap by long snapper Christian Yount following Tashaun Gipson?s 62-yard pick 6 late in the second quarter that gave the Browns a 16-3 lead. Cundiff never got his foot on the ball as punter/holder Spencer Lanning tried to run it in and failed.




    Instead of going for two points after West gave the Browns a 22-17 lead late in the third quarter with a nine-yard scoring run, coach Mike Pettine opted for the placement, so the missed extra point loomed larger and larger as the game progressed.




    And with Brees dissecting the Cleveland defense after a slow start (the Saints ran just 18 plays, gained a measly 33 yards and punted four times in their first four possessions), playing pitch and catch with All-Pro tight end Jimmy Graham, that point looked huge.




    Beginning with the final drive of the first half, the Saints scored touchdowns on three straight possessions to take a 24-23 lead with 12 minutes left in regulation. They smartly took advantage of Graham?s size and speed and created mismatches all over the field.




    No one could keep up with the 6-5, 260-pounder with strong, massive hands. Not Joe Haden. Not Buster Skrine. Not Donte Whitner. When he lined up wide as a wide receiver, Graham was unstoppable. Brees found him 10 times for 118 yards and two touchdowns.




    It was an unfair fight when Graham lined up outside. They did the Browns a favor whenever they kept him in to block.




    The Browns, as well and aggressively as they played in the first half, could not stop the Saints until Karlos Dansby came up with, in retrospect, what might be considered the play of the game on that side of the ball.




    The Saints, driving yet again late in the fourth quarter, reached the Cleveland 31 when Brees dropped back to pass on third-and-5. Dansby stormed up the gut untouched on a middle blitz and sacked Brees for a seven-yard loss.




    So instead of fourth and 5 at the 31 and the possibility of a Shayne Graham 49-yard field goal, it was fourth-and-12 at the 38 and the improbability of a 56-yarder by Graham. Thomas Morstead?s punt pinned the Browns back at their 4 and the rest is history.




    Murphy?s Law hovered over Cleveland several times Sunday, but this time decided to leave town.
     
  5. ravens_R_#1 Legend Ravens

    So as a starter, Hoyer is now 4-1?

    Sounds like a perfect week to start Johnny Football. You guys can bring Hoyer back for week 4 ;)
     
  6. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    Get your facts straight there, RR#3. Hoyer is 4-2 as a starter.

    He started 1 game for the Cardinals in 2012 with 10 days preparation and lost.
     
  7. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

    Nah they will for some reason bring in Johnny Clipboard for a couple plays . nothing like screwing up the game flow .

    Hoyer to win :)
     
  8. TopDawg Legend

    JYD, Congrats as well...Hope you like runner-up status though. (no shame in that btw)....You've had a fine season, but I'm afraid all the emoticons in the world can't save ya now my friend.
     
  9. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    I've seen a couple of posts like this now bluez...

    Let's clear this little issue up...The previous two possessions before Manziel came in were punts. The first possession Manziel came in for two plays ended in a TD by TWest. It wasn't by the hand of Manziel, but the fact that he came in may have actually changed the "game flow" back to the Browns favor, it certainly wasn't helping the previous two punts with him not in the game.

    The next possession he didn't go in and it ended in a punt...

    Where exactly is the issue that cost the Browns "game flow" problems yesterday with Manziel?

    I by no means am arguing they were better with him in there, they did nothing on the two plays. But this "game flow" argument is quite the opposite. They were forced to punt the previous two possessions before he came in and they proceeded to score on the drive he was in there...
     
  10. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

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    You're gonna have to help me connect the dots on that one, Irish. *SCRATCH*
     
  11. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    Help me connect the dots on how he messed up the offensive flow of the Browns...what would indicate that?
     
  12. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    No, help me connect the dots on how Manzeil's presence in the game for three plays helped West score a TD. That's a galactic stretch . . . even for you.

    :p
     
  13. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    Did you read my post, or just see that I mentioned Manziel?

    I RESPONDED that Manziel's plays didn't do anything for the drive...but they scored on the drive he was inserted. Thus, if anything his presence helped the momentum, not disturbing the game flow.

    The question was brought up about game flow, not whether Manziel was the cause of the score...

    I never credited Manziel for helping West score a TD...THAT IS GALACTIC STRETCH for you to accuse me of stating that..
     
  14. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    Yes, I read what you typed. But the inference was clearly present that the mere presence of Manziel in the game changed the flow of the game. (punt, punt, TD, punt)

    What's to say that West would have scored anyways had Manziel not entered the game?
     
  15. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    No that was NOT the inference AT ALL...

    The argument was made that Manziel interrupted the positive game flow that the Browns possessed. That clearly wasn't the case at all, that is what was inferred.

    In no way was I making an argument that the Browns need to insert Manziel more because he positively influences the outcome. My argument was AGAINST someone that posted that he negatively impacted the game flow. He DID NOT negatively impact the game flow, at all...on the contrary his interjection into the game coincided with the offensee scoring a TD on the drive he went in on...HOW was that a negative impact on the game flow?


    (edit:) to comment on your last sentence...I would argue that Manziel's presence had ZERO impact on the game and or the game flow, from the plays he was in on yesterday. He had ZERO impact on West scoring that TD.
     
  16. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

    As the NFL and its players union reportedly near finalization of a new drug policy, one of the biggest story lines is the impact the policy will have on players currently serving suspensions after failed tests in the current (soon-to-be-old) policy. And perhaps no name is drawing more headlines than Cleveland Browns receiver Josh Gordon.

    From Browns fans to fantasy football geeks to Johnny Manziel himself, it seems everyone in the world of football wants to know exactly when ? if ever ? Gordon will return to game action this season. He is currently suspended for all of this season for violations of the NFL's current drug policy.

    While there have been plenty of reports on when Gordon will be able to play again should the new policy be approved (the latest being that Gordon would have his suspension reduced to 10 games), FOX NFL Insider Mike Garafolo learned Sunday of a couple of notes which could mean even better news for Gordon and the Browns ? for this season, the remainder of his career, and perhaps the rest of his life.

    According to Garafolo:

    A source told FOX Sports on Sunday that Gordon will be able to be around his teammates and coaches at the Browns' facility during his suspension. When his initial suspension was handed down last month, Gordon was officially barred from the building. But under the new policy, his status in the substance-abuse policy comes with access to club activities, save for the games, full practices and travel with the team.

    According to Garafolo, people close to Gordon believe the added structure of the team could help keep him focused on football.















    NFL SUSPENSION TRACKER: WHO WILL MISS OUT ON PLAYING TIME IN '14?

    Which Pro Bowl players will be forced to watch from the sideline in 2014?

    In addition, Gordon's new job as a car salesman ? a position he began working once the appeal of his suspension was denied late last month ? is apparently helping to give Gordon incentives, both financially and personally.

    Per Garafolo:

    One other added piece of structure in Gordon's life right now could be his job with a car dealership. A source said Gordon, whose suspension could cost him more than $500,000 in salary and signing-bonus forfeitures, received an advance on his salary as part of his job at the dealership. To keep his job and not forfeit on the loan, Gordon must pass regular drug tests, the source said. Add in the regular NFL drug tests he'll be taking and that makes two employers who will be testing Gordon regularly.

    Lawyers for both sides reportedly could finalize language and the remaining sticking points in the new policy as early as Monday.
     
  17. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

  18. They can't hurt either! :p
    *ROSE* *KISSING*
     
  19. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

    Ok and let's add this from Peter King:
    Offensive Player of the Week

    Brian Hoyer, quarterback, Cleveland. The numbers were okay: 24 of 40, 204 yards, one touchdown, no picks, an 81.7 rating. But the significance of this win, and the two second-half drives Hoyer executed to break an awful streak of losing nine straight home openers, cannot be overstated. Particularly for a Cleveland kid who grew up wanting to play for the Browns. Down 17-16 late in the third quarter, Hoyer took the Browns 80 yards in 14 plays to give his team a 23-17 lead. Down again, 24-23, with 2:48 left in the fourth quarter, Hoyer took a crew of backup skill players another 80 yards in 14 plays, and Billy Cundiff converted the winning field goal with three seconds left. ?It?s a day I?ll never forget, obviously,? Hoyer said.
     
  20. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

    May the best DAWG win it this year . I will humbly pass the mantle to one of you at the end of the week ]:-> :( .

    who wants it more ?

    JYD which has won one or TD who hasn't won one yet
     

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