I wuld have to disagree....reps in a game situation is valuable vs a worthy opponent....2nite we play a very bad team and I can tell u we wuld get better reps in a practice than 2nite...now things can differ depending on certain circumstances....a new QB that hasnt ever taken a snap may benefit from the feel or atmosphere of a game setting, but this is preseason game #4...if they truly want reps and continuity why not play 3Q and make it worth it?
PS: lol ya, i worded my reply poorly. not sure how to say this exactly. if i were a statistician, compiling numbers on this stuff, i'd throw out all of millen's data (on everything) for being too far out in left field to merit consideration. he did occasional things right too - but it would be unreasonable to tell people not to do those too. i say leave his crap out of all your considerations, and your conclusions will be more accurate. the key to drafting is not to do the opposite of matt millen. the key to drafting is not to employ matt millen
Man there are MANY MANY times, I question whether you are truly a coach, or why anyone would hire you...I know, I know...you have sent many players to the college level...so you say. If your argument is that game situation reps aren't valuable (regardless of who you are playing), then I call you a liar in stating you are a coach. You may have been a player, but that doesn't mean you necessarily know what it means to game manage or build a squad. The coaches of the team you are employed by may find you valuable in teaching your past skills to a position player, but that is where it ends my friend. I would call you a teacher, let the coaches do the coaching... (edit) BTW, this "very bad team" we are playing tonight was 37-29 over the past 4 seasons, are you trying to tell me they don't have a 2nd string that can help a 18-46 team over the same period of time gel as a first team unit? Are you trying to tell me that by being annihilated by a top tier first team defense, they will learn more than executing their plays the correct way against the second tier defense? Are you trying to tell me that they would be better off doing a walk through this afternoon against people standing around, then watching their backups do it in the game is going to be more beneficial?
LOL.....LOL....thats a good one....well look at Normandy score 2nite in HS football and u make the conclusion if it was a worthy opponent...we pretty much prepared for week 2 as coaches already w/out telling the kids
A) So now you are comparing High School to professionals? B) I am sure your COACHES are preparing, while they let the teachers get the players ready for a lesser opponent. Did you have any scrimmages before the season began? Did you let your starters play in them or watch their backups play in them on film?
Interesting to see that those inexperienced rookie coaches in Seattle made the same mistake. Starting O vs the Oakland 2s. Wonder why they did that????
Thought Pettine's comments on Johnny were spot on. Johnny b good / Johnny b bad. Johnny being Johnny. Barnidge should be happy there were TDs or his drop would have made the highlight reel. that was brutal. On the other hand he missed big time on a number of throws. I still like Gabriel, he's green but he makes plays. Kirksey looks for real. Gilbert too, except his tackling. RBs didn't make any impact on me tonight, OK but not spectacular. Burleson may have done enough to stay. I even like McFadden: plays with passion, and if he can learn to turn around, he is in position. Given that we played against Chicago's 2s offensively, the D still has trouble getting off the field on 3rd downs. The D has to be our strength, and they can't be extending drives like they have. Are we ready for some football?
what to do with #34 ? I am pretty sure you cant stash the kid on the PS . the kid can flat out play football . runs with power and a nice burst . I also saw him pick up the blitz . that is the hardest thing for a rookie RB to do .
We had scrimmages but the other team played their starters...hell our 1st game we scored 9 TDs on 30 plays...u think we were happy w that...like I said earlier thats what we were suppose to do and if the Browns scored on their 1st drive they were suppose to do that
UDFA RB Isaiah Crowell rushed 13 times for 102 yards with a touchdown in Thursday's preseason finale against the Bears. With Ben Tate and Dion Lewis playing sparingly, Crowell finally got an extensive chance in the preseason. The former five-star recruit made the most of it, thoroughly outplaying a disappointing Terrance West (six carries, 13 yards). The Browns may have shot themselves in the foot now though, as Crowell will be almost impossible to sneak onto the practice squad. They have some hard decisions to make at the running back spot before Saturday.
Does said GM in this example have a franchise quarterback? If the answer is "no", then yes... he is a fool.
Give how bad Hoyer and the first team has looked this season, I would have played them deep into the third were I Pettine. They need time to get their heads on straight.
Actually, "lulz"... if the Browns F/O had the same track record I do, we'd probably have a pair of Superbowls by now. Not sure why you're hot and heavy after my post, but I take exception to the fact you still haven't done anything to refute my claim. Please show me in the last decade where a wide receiver took a franchise on his back, got them to a Superbowl and then won said Superbowl in a commanding fashion. If it were such a "horrible method", it ought to be easy to refute. I'll wait.
CLEVELAND (92.3 The Fan) ? Cleveland Browns left tackle Joe Thomas is as all-American as they come. The 7-time Pro Bowler rarely speaks up, but when he does people listen. Thomas spoke up Thursday night and blasted the NFL?s drug policy following the Browns 33-13 preseason win over Chicago. His comments came a day after receiver Josh Gordon was suspended for the season due to a failed drug test for marijuana. ?It?s not unexpected,? Thomas said. ?I think most of us went into the season after we heard about the suspension expecting that he?d be gone for all, if not most of the season. It?s not unexpected at this point but it still hurts when you lose your best receiver and one of the best receivers in the NFL. Obviously we wish he could be out there with us but we can?t control that he?s not going to be there right now and so we gotta make do with what we have.? But for Thomas, the issue wasn?t just about the loss of Gordon. It is the entire drug policy that bothers him. ?I think the NFL?s drug policy, it?s not in line with the other pro sports or Olympic sports,? Thomas said. ?There?s obviously a lot of things that they did when they first put it together that were in good faith and they thought were good, but just like any law a lot of times you have to go back and revisit things that need tweaking.? Thomas feels that the current drug policy, including the league?s stance on marijuana, is in need of an overhaul. ?I think there?s a resistance from management of the NFL and also from the players association to do that type of needed updating of the drug policy,? Thomas said, ?because obviously there?s some oversights when they wrote the program and some cultural changes that have happened that I don?t think the program accurately reflects the morals of society today and the NFL and pro sports in general.? The Olympic committee?s threshold for marijuana testing is 10 times more than the NFL allows not to mention municipalities and states are legalizing the substance. Thomas doesn?t think during the last round of CBA negotiations in 2011 enough time was spent on looking at revising the drug policy ? and for him, that is the primary problem. The league and union both seem unwilling to invest the time in doing it, which he doesn?t feel is fair or right. ?I think they haven?t really touched it in a lot of years because it?s kinda been the one thing when you?re collectively bargaining that it kinda gets put to the end and then when you?re close on a deal you just say ?ahh let?s just leave it how it?s been? rather than actually work on maybe some issues that are there,? Thomas said. ?The problem is that now you?re sitting in a situation where you have a collective bargaining agreement that lasts 10 years and in the middle of it nobody?s going to want to go back to the bargaining table and try to hash out things that may be an issue as they clearly are on a number of different levels but that are only going to affect a couple of people. ?I think there?s a resistance from management of the NFL and also from the players association to do that type of needed updating of the drug policy because obviously there?s some oversights when they wrote the program and some cultural changes that have happened that I don?t think the program accurately reflects the morals of society today and the NFL and pro sports in general.? A major point of contention for Thomas is the appeals process and the power that NFL commissioner Roger Goodell wields when it comes to player discipline. ?A necessary change that I?d like to see is maybe a unbiased nonpartisan arbitrator instead of having Roger Goodell make all the decisions,? Thomas said. ?But he did not want to give that up in the last CBA and I don?t expect him to want to give it up so I don?t expect that to change at all.? Many compare the inequality in Ray Rice?s 2-game suspension for assaulting his now wife to Gordon being gone for a year for a failed drug test. Something just doesn?t seem right about that. Thursday afternoon Goodell agreed and modified the conduct policy. He implemented a 6-game suspension for a first offense domestic violence violation and a lifetime-ban for a second with option to request reinstatement after 1 year. ?Obviously the commissioner got a lot of flack for what happened with Ray Rice and I think with the discipline policy he has cart blanche to do whatever he wants,? Thomas said. ?But with the drug policy that?s collectively bargained. Until him and D Smith actually want to get together and fix some of it, I think we?re going to be stuck with an outdated policy.?
COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) -- Kenny Hill looked more than ready to replace Johnny Manziel on the field. He is still getting used to the attention that goes along with the job. Hill broke Manziel's single-game passing record with 511 yards and No. 21 Texas A&M beat No. 9 South Carolina 52-28 on Thursday night, ending the Gamecocks' 18-game home win streak. Hill looked poised and confident in his first start, leading the Aggies (1-0, 1-0 Southeastern Conference) to the most total and passing yards against South Carolina. The sophomore completed 44 of 60 passes with three touchdowns. The hardest part of his night came after the celebration on the field. "I just wanted to get the first press conference over with," said Hill, who hadn't spoken with reporters before. "I get nervous up here." That's a far cry from Manziel, a lightning-rod personality quick to speak his mind and gesture to crowds and opponents. Johnny Football rode his flashy style all the way to the Heisman Trophy in his freshman year, and one of the Aggies' biggest worries was if they could find the same rhythm with a different leader. Hill made it clear they could. "We aren't a one-trick pony," Aggies coach Kevin Sumlin said. But Hill would like a different nickname: "I don't really like `Kenny Football.'" Hill helped Texas A&M to a 31-14 halftime lead and finished up with the most passing yards allowed in Steve Spurrier's 10 seasons with the Gamecocks (0-1, 0-1). ? *By clicking "SUBSCRIBE", you have read and agreed to the Fox Sports Privacy Policy and Terms of Use. SUBSCRIBE "I think we all had a chip on our shoulders," Texas A&M defensive lineman Julien Obioha said. The Gamecocks played their first game since the departure of star defensive end Jadeveon Clowney -- and it showed. South Carolina gave up seven TDs on A&Ms first 11 possessions. Tra Carson ran for three touchdowns and receiver Malcome Kennedy had 14 catches for 137 yards. The Aggies piled up 680 yards of offense, the most South Carolina's given up since Arkansas went for 650 in 2007. Manziel held five of the Aggies' six best single-game passing marks, topped by his 464 yards in a loss to Alabama last season. Hill moved past them all with his flawless showing on the road. "That team was so much better than us, it wasn't funny," said Spurrier, trying for his 200th victory as an SEC coach. "They out-coached us, out-played us, they were better prepared and they knew what they were doing." MEET THE TOP 25 Check out the official FOX Sports preseason rankings for the 2014 college football season. Hill's 44 completions were also a single-game school record, moving past Jerrod Johnson's mark against Oklahoma State in 2010. Hill and the Aggies essentially put this one away in the first half, scoring on five of six possessions. Hill, who played just four games last year in mop-up duty, looked at ease against the Gamecocks and their young defense. Hill completed passes to 12 receivers, most of them running free in a rebuilt secondary. South Carolina, coming off three straight 11-2 seasons, had hoped to kick off a run to the conference title in a Thursday night showcase game on the startup SEC Network. Manziel, taken 22nd overall by Cleveland, was among three Texas A&M players picked in the first round last May. And the Aggies showed they could still operate without last year's standouts. "We were ready to prove everyone wrong," Hill said. "We were ready to show we could play without Johnny." Malcome Kennedy had 10 catches for 85 yards in the first two quarters, allowing Aggie fans to rest easy about star Mike Evans moving on to Tampa Bay. The offensive line provided plenty of time for Hill despite Jake Matthews heading to the NFL's Atlanta Falcons. The Aggies got going on their first possession, and Carson finished a 67-yard drive with a 1-yard TD. South Carolina stayed close on two long scoring throws of 69 and 46 yards by new starting quarterback Dylan Thompson, the second to Damiere Byrd that helped the Gamecocks close to 17-14. But Hill and the Aggies were relentless, pressing forward through South Carolina's Clowney-less defense. Hill, the son of ex-major league pitcher Ken Hill, led TD drives of 75 and 80 yards in the final nine minutes before the half. The 393 yards of A&M offense at the half were more than South Carolina's defense had allowed in nine of 13 games a year ago. Thompson passed for 366 yards and four touchdowns. Mike Davis, the Gamecocks' 1,000-yard rusher, had 15 yards in the first half before re-injuring his ribs and sitting out the rest of the way.
