I know that I will get blasted for this by some but here it is. The possibility exists that there could be 2 answers that would make for either a non-football decision or a poor one. 1. Pilot-J and Firing the Staff: All the slamming of Haslam in the media came to a pretty abrupt halt when John was drafted. The questions about his company's legal woes and the firing of his first staff went to the wayside for Manziel mania. 2. Fear: They let the fear of the unknown quantity that is 'Johnny Football' sway them into making that pick. The fear that they had an opportunity to draft him and passed. The idea that he could be taken by another team and live up to the hype and make it impossible for this regime to justify passing on him. Now I know that FOs are suppose to be impervious to this type of shit but they are not and decisions get made for the wrong reasons some of which are not field related. Now I'm going to bunker down for the next few minutes... someone sound the air-raid sirens...
little Johnny and the circus that follows him for some reason or another was a haslam pick not Farmers . so the story goes some homeless guy told Haslam outside of a downtown Cleveland Restrauant to draft Manziel *SCRATCH* . its no secret I didn't want him starting two years ago . he has done nothing to change my mind . I hope he does because I am tired of losing just as much as the next Browns fan is . we are stuck with him as of now . he isn't ready to play Pro Football . Hoyer is a veteran that has at least seen live action . this team is lacking weapons on the offensive side of the ball . no QB will ever have any success with our current crop of ball dropping WR . name a team with a worse WR corps than the Browns ? take away Gordon which the league will do if they ever make up there minds and its bad real bad . we had better hope the defense can score as well .
The Browns officially named Brian Hoyer their starting quarterback for the first week of the regular season on Wednesday, leaving first-round pick and 2012 Heisman Trophy winner Johnny Manziel to serve as the No. 2 quarterback to start his first year in the NFL. Browns coach Mike Pettine said, via Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, that Manziel reacted ?as expected? because he?s ?a competitor.? He also said that he didn?t question Manziel?s dedication to the game after an offseason that had some wondering whether Manziel?s fondness for the good life would have the Browns doing just that. For his part, Manziel said he felt he got a fair opportunity to win the starting job and that ?I don?t feel like I would?ve gone back and done anything differently? over the last few months. Instead, he put the focus on his own performance and said he didn?t ?necessarily? feel like he was ready to get the nod from Pettine. ?If I would?ve come out and played better, I think it would?ve been a different outcome,? Manziel said. It?s probably a fair assessment of the situation. Hoyer didn?t set the world on fire this summer, so it?s hard to feel that all of the rolled up dollar bills, drinking on inflatable swans and extended middle fingers in the world would have stopped Manziel from getting to the top of the depth chart if he?d been the clearly superior player on the field.
Johnny Manziel is struggling -- and continues to struggle -- with the Browns' playbook. We all got a glimpse of it when Manziel was asked by Jon Gruden in a sit-down interview during Monday night's telecast to spit out a play from OC Kyle Shanahan's playbook. He stumbled over his words before eventually getting it out. It's to be expected from a rookie like Manziel, who is coming from a spread offense with simple, one-, two-, or three-word plays. Receiver Andrew Hawkins admitted the players in the huddle "are still helping him a little bit." Manziel can focus on the playbook as Brian Hoyer's backup. It's going to take time.
Browns RE Desmond Bryant underwent wrist surgery and is out indefinitely. Coach Mike Pettine is unsure if Bryant will be ready for Week 1, but did say injured reserve is not on the table. Bryant remains an underrated 3-4 lineman, as he can push the pocket and play stout run defense. He'll be missed. With Bryant out, Phil Taylor will man the nose with Ahtyba Rubin and Billy Winn flanking him. Armonty Bryant and Ishmaa'ily Kitchen are quality reserves
I ask you the same question, what are you basing your opinion on as far as this preseason that Hoyer gives them a better chance to win those 3 games? One simple reason, NFL success is based on great QB play. They had TWO first round picks and used the second one on the prospect they felt gave them the best opportunity to improve at that position. It was a winning bet. They took him without sacrificing anything really, based on their first round grade. In the same draft they got their number one target already. It really wasn't a very difficult decision. No reason to cower, it is a legitimate question and possible answers, but #2 best explains imho. The unknown quantity drives every team to get a player that very well could be above that excellence tier. Same reason Clowney was taken #1 overall. The Browns simply got a better "deal" where they took their chance on one of those players. It has been reported the Cowboys are still frustrated they didn't pick him at #16, even after all of his off season and now on the field antics. I for one am no where near the throw him aside specter that the Johnny haters would like everyone to be. He is preseason game two into his career...give him a little time before casting him aside please, I BEG you...
I have NEVER said throw the little dirtbag out. I have always said he has talent but I do not believe his style of play will translate to the NFL. For the record, I hope I'm wrong about him and he turns into the next all-universe QB. But, also for the record, I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for that to happen.
Very, very little Irish. Hoyer has looked awful for the most part but the offense looks to be more organized with him running it. The question will be whether or not he regains his touch and accuracy that he looked to have last season pre-injury. He has a better grasp of the playbook at this point and he appears to not be willing to put the ball up for grabs when pressured which was a knock on John coming out of college that he looks to still possess. I still believe that they should have went after another skill position player at 22 (they were said to be moving up for Cooks and not Manziel) and gone after Garappollo in the second round. Eh, I never had much faith in Manziel so to me this is what I expect. He will improve some, but I never thought of him as the answer. If he changes my mind I will be sure to post it and I have no problems with owning up when I'm wrong.
lol, sometimes that emoticon says it all. Although I believe I read somewhere in here that you labeled Brady Quinn as a savior of the Browns.
If I can . . . I would like to explain my position regarding my opinion of Johnny M. If you look back to when (what we now call) "Franchise Quarterbacks" were drafted, Every one of them (perhaps with the exceptions of Kenny Stabler, Joe Namath and Bret Favre) were "gym rats". They were students of the game. Instead of riding inflatable swans, they were deep into film study 24/7/365. Instead of rolling up currency for whatever potential use, they were working out to get in the best possible physical shape they could. They all had a passion for the game that was unmatched by any other facet of their life. I do not see this in Johnny Manziel. I see a guy (with considerable talent at the college level) that has embraced the image that is constantly perpetuated by the media. When asked TODAY in the Browns presser if he felt he could have toned down his off field life and if he had would it have affected Pettine's decision. His answer: I'm going to live my life the way I want to.
"QUINN TO WIN" -- SAS, 2007 It's the singular black mark on my record. History is a cruel mistress because I don't know that "savior" was ever tossed around, just that he was our best option to win in a long, long time. He proved me wrong pretty quickly.
Nicely done, but I cannot use the word singular in my mistakes. Then again, I'm typically covering all 32. My most recent flop will be Foles if he repeats last season but I don't think I'm alone in that one.
I'm not sure this is even accurate Tim...I would have to do some research, but after watching two games twice, I believe the offense had more penalties for snap count and lining up with Hoyer in there than Manziel. As for the playbook grasp, He has thrown just as many balls where receivers weren't as Manziel. For the record Manziel hasn't thrown a single INT, which is what everyone predicted would happen. Also for the record, Manziel loses less yards when that O-line does break down. Not that this is a super plus, but it is much easier to come back from a 2nd and 11 after a sack than a 2nd and 16. Manziel has had two sacks for 0 losses thus far. Not a deciding factor, but the argument does build when you add everything into an account of the QB situation thus far. If they were adamant about a skill player, then they could just as easily cast aside Joel Bitonio to take one, as Kelvin Benjamin was the only skill player taken between #22 and their 2nd round pick where you wanted them to take Garoppolo. So more of what you are saying is taking a skill player and QB, rather than a QB and a left guard. Unless of course you are suggesting trading back into the 2nd, which would have cost Kirksey and West, both of whom seem to be players that will contribute immediately on this team...
You are simply looking at this with a narrow point of view Lym... Tom Brady has been a jet setter QB since his involvement with Gisele since 2006. I am sure he ran in the same circles prior to that. He isn't on swans, but he is all over the world in his off time, not sitting at home with his iPad. Joe Montana (my personal favorite QB of all time) took a full season before even getting an opportunity to be a starter in the league. Aaron Rodgers, got 3 full seasons Peyton Manning is an even better example. He has exploited his popularity since he came into the league. It was just through television and radio rather than social media. I have a sneaking feeling though, if social media had been around since the 1800's your statement wouldn't be nearly are accurate as you think...Social media has just gained traction in at most the past ten years. There hasn't really been another QB put in his situation in that amount of time to even compare. By all accounts, when it is time for football, Manziel IS putting in over time. It has been reported he is the first in and the last out, with the exception of the late meeting due to a misread of a schedule. You and many others, have a misconceived notion of who he is and will not come off of that thinking unless he becomes a stud for the Browns. That will be the only way some ever think of him as anything but a screw up.
