:-* I don't hate JF. I just don't think he is the best QB nor do I think he's worth the #4 overall pick in this draft by any stretch of the imagination. %)
Cleveland Browns 2011 grade: C-plus The skinny: They traded out of the sixth spot with Atlanta to pick up extra picks and they ended up having a nice draft. First-round pick Phil Taylor is a good defensive tackle. Second-round picks Greg Little (WR) and Jabal Sheard (OLB) start. Fourth-round pick Jordan Cameron is a Pro Bowl tight end and Buster Skrine, a fifth-round pick, was a starter at corner last season. Fifth-round pick Jason Pinkston also started at guard. It's too bad they took Brandon Weeden in 2012 with one of the firsts they got to trade out of the sixth spot. How I did: I questioned the move to trade out, but they still had a heck of a draft. I liked the move to draft Little, but he hasn't been what I expected. My third-day gem was Cameron, who I liked because he was a former basketball player. Re-grade: A
I hope that doesent happen . a 5-11 shrimp with a attitude is not what I want for my Browns .I will have no choice but to try and get onboard . when the little *WALL* ..goes BUST you will never hear the end of it . . real men play in the cold when the winds whip off the lake . No I don't like the little bastard . and I have never met him . don't want to either . the only way I want to see him in Cleveland is broke in half when he gets out of a perfect pocket to run around like a total MORON and gets laid out .
According to NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, Browns owner Jimmy Haslam "loves" Texas A&M QB Johnny Manziel. The Browns have been linked to Manziel for months on end, and it wouldn't be surprising if Haslam was the primary reason. Haslam has proven extremely meddlesome and impatient in his first year and a half on the job, and could overrule his football men on the 2012 Heisman Trophy winner. Worry about the Feds Hillbilly Jim and keep your ass out of the draft room *WALL*
With three days to go before the NFL draft gets underway, opinions on former Texas A&M quarterback Johnny Manziel are all over the map: Some say he?ll go first or second overall, while others don?t think he?ll go in the first round at all. And then there?s Vance Bedford, the defensive coordinator at Texas, who didn?t offer a prediction about Manziel?s draft prospects but did take to Twitter to say that the way Manziel played in college won?t hold up at the next level. ?Manziel is a top 10 pick by the scouts. I wish him the best. He played backyard ball for 3 years. Now he will have to learn how to be a Qb,? Bedford wrote. When Bedford got pushback on Twitter, he denied that he was trying to take a shot at Manziel but added, ?Spread qbs have struggled in the NFL.? Why is Bedford offering that opinion right now? Maybe it was just an observation. Maybe as a Texas guy he wanted to take a shot at a Texas A&M guy. Maybe Bedford, who previously coached at Louisville, was trying to take a little shot at Manziel on behalf of former Louisville quarterback Teddy Bridgewater, who appears to have slipped behind Manziel on NFL draft boards. But it?s worth noting that Bedford never actually coached against Manziel, and so it may be that it?s Bedford who has a lot to learn about what kind of player Manziel is.
Cleveland Browns should resist temptation of Johnny Manziel or any QB with No. 4 pick: Analysis By Tom Reed, Northeast Ohio Media Group The Plain Dealer BEREA, Ohio ? From a strictly selfish standpoint, I want the Browns to select a quarterback with the No. 4 overall pick in the 2014 NFL Draft. I want his name to be Johnny Manziel. The Texas A&M product would be a boon for local media outlets. Love him or loathe him, Manziel is irresistible as a topic. It would carry all the hype of LeBron James? rookie season in Cleveland, only this time playing for the city?s most storied franchise. Think of the web clicks, the Arbitron ratings. There would be no moratorium on Johnny Football. I dream of writing the following headline: Manziel to raise Alpacas in the offseason I envision the first 20 comments debating whether Manziel has legitimate Alpaca presence or whether he?d scramble at the first sign of trouble. Alas, I cannot endorse this fantasy. The Browns should draft a quarterback with one of their first three picks, but none of them makes sense at No. 4. It would be a selection based more on hope than sound rationale. Everyone knows quarterback is the most important player on the field. But all members of the position?s upper crust in this draft ? Manziel, Blake Bortles, Teddy Bridgewater, Derek Carr ? come with legitimate question marks. As one league executive noted to the Boston Globe, every team ?that perceivably needs a quarterback signed one in free agency.? The Browns added Vince Young and Tyler Thigpen, but more importantly have Brian Hoyer in place. Coach Mike Pettine said last week he thinks teams can make mistakes starting rookie quarterbacks too soon. The Browns have a war chest of draft picks ? three in the top 35 and eight in the top 145. They should be able to move up from No. 26 (their second first-round pick) if they fear a quarterback they desire is about to come off the board. There are simply too many other good options at No. 4 for the Browns. NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock addressed the dilemma facing all quarterback-needy teams during a February conference call. ?I think the important thing is to get the pick right, and if they are not in love with any of those three quarterbacks, this is one of the best position Top 10s I've ever seen,? Mayock said when asked specifically about the Houston Texans and Manziel. ?Taking a position kid or trading down makes a ton of sense for these guys.? The Browns shouldn?t need to trade down. If anyone from this grouping -- Jadeveon Clowney, Khalil Mack, Sammy Watkins, Mike Evans or Greg Robinson -- is available, the Browns have themselves a good player. I?ve heard and read research about the struggles of wide receivers early in the draft. Monday Morning Quarterback?s Greg Bedard observes only 1-in-3 receivers taken in the first two rounds since 2009 have caught at least 50 passes in a season. It?s hard to imagine, however, another wideout coming into a better scenario than the one the Browns afford: a first-team All-Pro receiver on the other side and a Pro Bowl tight end over the middle. Coaches also don?t care as much about individual stats as they do the threat and dilemma the talents of good receivers create. A Josh Gordon-Watkins pairing is tantalizing. ?(Gordon) could have a very low-production game if teams are just rolling their coverage to him, but the effect that that has on the rest of the defense and the benefit that you have offensively . . .? Pettine said. Selecting Watkins or Evans also provides you with insurance in case Gordon were to fail another drug test and suffer a one-year ban. It?s doubtful Clowney is available at No. 4, but there?s a decent chance Mack will be. The University of Buffalo linebacker is the most complete player in draft, an edge rusher who can drop into coverage and make plays. I will be writing more on Mack later this week ? spoiler alert: It's for our package of stories on "who to take at No. 4." Some will argue Watkins and Mack are luxury picks, the Browns need help elsewhere. After 15 years of wafer-thin lineups, what?s wrong with loading up at several positions, especially ones that feature playmakers? Adding an offensive tackle would not be my first option, the Browns already have lots of money and assets invested in the line, but many agree Robinson would be a solid top-5 choice. Which brings us back to quarterbacks: There?s no consensus on any of the top signal callers. ?The more tape I watch of (Manziel, Bortles and Bridgewater), the more questions I have,? Mayock said. Ideally, you want to find the stud quarterback early in the draft and build the team around him, but Seattle has proven you can win a Super Bowl by adding Russell Wilson in the third round. Cincinnati has shown you can make multiple playoff appearances with an inconsistent second-rounder like Andy Dalton. Taking a quarterback at No. 4 feels like forcing one into double coverage. Grab a position player at that spot, then identify a quarterback. If he happens to raise Alpacas in the offseason all the better.
Sorry, I 'll take all your back handed crap that you spew from your brain about Manziel, but you are the moron if you want hum to break in half when he gets here... Hell, he hasn't even been drafted and you are already calling for him to be injured...Were you one of the people cheering when couch was laying on his back on the field in Cleveland? Sorry bluez, I wanna understand, but that is utterly ridiculous...It really is, hoping a player gets injured just so you don't have to watch him play... Couldn't keep quiet any longer, that's total BS
Just saw this this morning and I think Beach is right. Still, Hoping for someone to get injured ? Bluez . . . pump the brakes, pal.
Ok, I'll back track, if that is the case, I will simmer a tad...but as Lym put it, hoping someone gets injured at all is still bad form...
My little birdy friend told me the Browns are want Robinson. But they think he will be gone by our pick. He then told me that the Watkins is next on their board. But like Robinson they think he will be gone. If the draft goes Clowney, Robinson and the Watkins then yes it will be either Manziel or Evans.
No I didn't cheer when Couch got hurt . he took a beating from day 1 . if we draft him I will get onboard ..slowly mind you .I don't want the circus that follows him or his " trademark " name . his back yard style will get him broke in half no matter where he lands . if they take him at # 4 I know Farmer didn't make the pick . Jim Bob did . my worst nightmare will come true . a meddlesome owner like Dan Snider or Jerry Jones .
Beach thanks for clarifying .I am still wrong but its going to happen with his unorthodox backyard style .
Has there ever been a more polarizing prospect ? not that I can remember . you either hate him or you don't . maybe I am to old school . I don't want a guy like Manziel on my football team .
I am done till after the draft . Haslam let the people you hired. the football people make the pick . not you . go worry about cleaning up your other mess !
Sometime on Thursday, prior to 8:00pm EDT, I'm going to offer up this; I would like EVERYONE to throw their hatchets in there and move on AS ONE SINGLE FAN BASE ! I'll be the first ! (right after Irish and I down my 12 long necks! )
