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  1. crextin Franchise Player Browns

    Yo Lounge Houndz

    Sheesh? am out for a lil bit and the next thing you know?

    There are geritol bottles and canes flying around everywhere.
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    Josh Gordon?
    The Lombatard Rumor mill is in full swing. It?s no secret that he doesn?t like Gordon or Weeden. So I suppose it?s not inconceivable that trade rumors would surface again. Easy enough for him to kill two birds with one stone.

    That Irish is what scares me the most about what the FO is doing. Yes, they have left the Browns are in great shape salary wise. Getting a 1st rounder for T-rich is awesome value. I have NO FAITH in their ability to evaluate the available talent in the 2014 draft. Then select the players who have the best talent to flesh out the roster.

    I HOPE that they prove me wrong I really do. Until then I?m not buying in to what they?re doing?




    Some things are just more important Bluez?

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  2. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

    Browns director of player personnel Jon Sandusky reportedly arrested on suspicion of drunken driving

    By Nate Ulrich Published: October 8, 2013


    Browns director of player personnel Jon Sandusky was arrested on suspicion of drunken driving this morning in Fargo, N.D., the Forum of Fargo-Moorhead reported.

    Fargo police pulled Sandusky, 36, over at about 1:50 a.m. today for making an illegal turn, according to the report. After administering field sobriety tests, an officer determined that Sandusky was driving under the influence. He was taken to the Cass County Jail and posted bail later today.

    Sandusky is in his fourth season with the Browns. A team spokesman said, ?We?re aware of the situation and currently working to gather facts.?

    Sandusky is the son of Jerry Sandusky, the former Penn State University football coach who is serving 30-60 years in prison after being convicted of sexually abusing boys.
     
  3. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

    FARGO, N.D. ?



    If the Atlanta Falcons? 2013 goose wasn?t cooked already by virtue of a 1-4 record, it is if Julio Jones is lost for the season.

    Browns fans had their own reaction to Tuesday?s big NFL injury news.

    They have never stopped associating Jones with one of the biggest trades in recent NFL Draft history.

    The Browns and Atlanta pulled off a draft-day blockbuster in 2011. The Falcons acquired the No. 6 pick so they could pounce on Jones. The Browns reeled in a stash of draft picks. The million-dollar question was whether they would ever add up to one super talent.

    Here is what general manager Tom Heckert acquired for Jones, and what is left of the trade:

    ? A first-round pick in 2011, No. 27 overall. Heckert traded the pick, along with a third-rounder (No. 70) to move up to No. 21, where he picked Phil Taylor. Taylor shows signs of a career year after five games as the 2013 Browns? nose tackle.

    ? A second-round pick in 2011, No. 59 overall. Heckert picked wideout Greg Little, who has been on a three-year roller-coaster ride, but made big plays in Thursday?s 37-24 win over Buffalo.

    ? A Round 4 pick in 2011, No. 124 overall. The Browns picked fullback Owen Marecic. Cleveland?s new regime cut him in September. He then spent two weeks with the 49ers, who cut him last Tuesday.

    ? A Round 1 pick in 2012, No. 22 overall. The pick was Brandon Weeden, on whose shoulders the 2013 offense now rides.

    ? A Round 1 pick in 2012, No. 118 overall. The Browns sent the pick to Minnesota as part of the cost of moving from No. 4 overall to No. 3, where they plucked Trent Richardson.

    All of that ... for Julio Jones.

    Jones has been an excellent wideout for the Falcons. As a rookie, he helped them to a 10-6 record, but they were crushed 24-2 by the Giants in a first-round playoff game.

    As a second-year pro, he amassed 1,198 receiving yards and scored 10 touchdowns. The Falcons went 13-3 and lost to the 49ers in the NFC finals.

    This year, Jones ranks second in the NFL in receiving yards, but his contribution did not keep the Falcons from losing, and now he has a foot injury that could knock him out until 2014.

    The Jones deal has much to do with the look of the Browns team that will try for a fourth straight win Sunday.

    The Browns believe Taylor is playing at a Pro Bowl level in the middle of their No. 4-ranked defense.

    All eyes are on Weeden now that he digs in for the long haul at quarterback, with Brian Hoyer out.

    Little became an important Weeden target as last season wore on, and he is in the spotlight now after catching long passes that set up scores in the second half against Buffalo.

    Plus, it can be argued that the Jones deal is part of the unseen intrigue of the Browns? future, since it took a draft pick from that trade to move up for Richardson, and he was traded to Indianapolis for a Round 1 pick next year.


    Read more: http://www.cantonrep.com/browns/x1155173945/Draft-day-trade-shaped-Browns-of-2013#ixzz2hEt2p34r
     
  4. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

    Wow... Phil Taylor, Greg Little, Trent Richardson and Brandon Weeden.

    Richardson - gone now, colossal bust
    Little - gone after this season, bust
    Weeden - gone after this season, mega-colossal bust
    Taylor - the only decent player picked

    I've said it before and I'll say it again, Tom Heckert was the worst evaluator of talent we've had -- save maybe the one year fiasco with Mangini/Kokinis.
     
  5. crextin Franchise Player Browns

    Whatever SAS? *KISSING*

    The Weeden selection had Holmgren?s prints all over it.
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...ike-holmgren-pull-rank-on-brandon-weeden-pick

    So this tells me that it WAS NOT Heckert?s intent to select Weeden at #22.

    BTW Are all these bust picks?
    Joe Haden
    TJ Ward
    Billy Winn
    John Hughes
    Mitchell Schwartz
    Jabaal Sheard
    Jordon Cameron

    ALL Heckert Selections

    Sure sucks to have that kind of talent on the roster doesn't it...
     
  6. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    Don't forget Josh Gordon, Phil Taylor and Travis Benjamin... *THUMBSUP*

    Edited: You could also throw in Shaun Lauvao, as the line looked pathetic without him and Buster Skrine is looking more like an NFL CB by the week.
     
  7. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

    By Fred Greetham
    OBR Senior Browns Reporter
    Posted Oct 9, 2013




    One of the most noticeable differences between Hoyer and Weeden is getting rid of the ball. Weeden was sacked five times by the Bills and has been sacked 16 times in the three games he has played.

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    BEREA, Ohio -- Rob Chudzinski said that Brandon Weeden learned from going from starter to the bench and back to being a starter again with the season-ending injury to Brian Hoyer.

    "I think it's been a learning experience for him," Chudzinski said. "I think he's grown from that experience. You look at being the starter, getting injured and having to sit and watch and then getting thrown into the game, early in the game, where he didn't have a lot of practice time."

    Some have referred to Weeden by using a golfing term--a mulligan--which means a 'do over'.

    "I don't think of it as a mulligan," Weeden said. "Things just happen and it's unfortunate for Brian. You never know how it's going to work out. Like I said (before), I prepare like I'm the starter, just in case something happens that did happen. That's the role of being a quarterback. You never know when your number is going to be called. I was able to do enough to help us win the game."

    Chudzinski mentioned Weeden even learning and dealing with getting booed after his first incomplete pass.

    "(Dealing with) getting booed," he said. "The game (going) back and forth and him, ultimately, making some big plays that helped us win that game. I think that's growth and he has a sense of confidence about what he's been able to do. We'll get him out there for another week of practice and I think that will help him to get better and get ready to play even more so.

    "It was impressive the way he dealt with (the booing)," he said. "He didn't listen to it and it didn't affect him whatsoever during the game.

    Weeden agreed with Chudzinski's assessment.

    "You dig deep and do a lot of soul-searching," he said. "That's a part of dealing with adversity and facing adversity. It makes you a stronger person and that's part of life. You just need to find a way to take the positives and build off of it. I would agree with Chud, absolutely."

    Weeden was asked if the boos shook him.

    "Obviously, I heard them," he said. "But I personally think we have the best fans in the National Football League. This is some of the best people, smart football fans in the league and I get it. They get it.

    "Obviously, you don't want to hear it but if you can make a couple of throws, put a couple of drives together, hopefully, you can turn those into cheers and as a player, that's what you want.," he said. "hat's why I love playing in Cleveland. The people here, the fans here have been nothing short of extraordinary and again that's why I love playing here."

    In relief, Weeden was 13-of-24 for 197 yards with a touchdown and a 95.3 rating.

    "I was (a little rusty)," he said. "I hadn't taken any reps in two weeks and hadn't thrown until Tuesday (before the Thursday game). Again, not making any excuses. That's my job. I was the number two guy in case something happened, whether I threw one ball or a million balls. It didn't matter, I still needed to go out and execute."

    One of the most noticeable differences between Hoyer and Weeden is getting rid of the ball. Weeden was sacked five times by the Bills and has been sacked 16 times in the three games he has played.

    "That's one of things that Brandon is going to work on and has been working on," Chudzinski said. "I think, again, a week of practice under his belt going the whole week and even the other day he got a chance to work on some things.

    "It's just a point of emphasis and something that he'll work on and I think he'll get better at it."

    Chudzinski was asked if having a 'pocket presence' can be coached.

    "I think it's a combination of something that guys have and it develops over time with experience in comfort of knowing where everybody is going to be and having and executing running those plays so many times you can see those plays in your sleep."

    Weeden admitted he needs to make quicker decisions and reads.

    "There are times I can get the ball out quicker," Weeden said. "Take the pressure off of the guys up front. I think just learning the system (more), studying, things like that. We're playing well. We have great guys on this offense. We just have to be in sync and trust the guys and get rolling."

    He said there are a variety of different methods to get rid of the ball quicker.

    "There are a million different ways, whether it's the design of the play or getting off your first progression faster, pre-snap reads as far as maybe eliminating half the field or seeing pressure and finding your back," he said. "There are a lot of ways to go about it, it just depends on the play. There are times when you might have to sit back there and hold it because there's a double move or you might have a deeper progression route. That comes from the confidence I have in the guys up front."

    Chudzinski said that the plays being called aren't different for Weeden versus Hoyer.

    "It's our base offense and whether Brian or Brandon had been in, we're running a lot of the same things and guys will be familiar with the same things we're running," he said. "I don't think there is anything noticeably that (Norv Turner) would call differently.

    "The things that we're doing, we'll do to give Brandon and our whole offense the best possible chance to be successful and that's always the way we'll approach things."

    Weeden thinks the offense is progressing and will continue to get better as the season goes along.

    "We're getting that continuity," Weeden said. "We're growing, we're getting a feel for each other within the system. This is a great system and Norv said back in training camp that we were going to be better in November than what we were in September. That is because of the confidence we have in each other and you get better as the season goes along because we're learning a new system. Guys are playing better and you expect that as the season goes along."

    This will be Weeden's first start with Josh Gordon, who missed the first two games under suspension.

    "A good example was on the touchdown," he said. "He had pretty good coverage. My confidence is in my guys that they'll go make a play and that's what he was telling me.You want to hear them say let it rip and just throw it up. I have a lot of confidence in those guys."

    He looks forward to taking advantage of the play makers that have developed in Gordon and Jordan Cameron.

    "They definitely make the quarterbacks life easier," he said. "They are guys who create a lot of mismatches."

    Weeden knows this will be a tough week with the Lions defensive front led by Ndamukong Suh.

    "(The Lions) try to get after the passer and it goes back to getting the ball out at times (quicker)," he said "You have to slow them down."

    "Obviously, (Suh's) a special player, a dominate player who can change a game, but Shawn Lauvao and those guys up there will do a great job."

    Weeden is excited about the second opportunity this season with the Browns on a three game winning streak.

    "There's a lot of excitement," he said. "That's our main focus is to keep doing what we're doing and keep it rolling. This week it's Detroit and then (the Packers). We're just keeping it week to week and that goes back to Chud. He's done an unbelievable job of keeping us really dialed in and focused on each week's game and what's in front of us."

    Weeden said he's been out around Cleveland after the win over the Bills with his family and he has noticed the excitement about the Browns.

    "People were excited," he said. "This town is lit up and excited and rightfully so. We've won a few games in a row here and it's fun going out and getting the perspective of the fans and the excitement of not only what we feel, but what they feel. There are great people in this town and the last few days have been fun."

    EXTRA POINTS

    Chudzinski Refutes Gordon Rumor: Rumors were flying around the NFL after ESPN reported that the Browns were talking with the 49ers about possibly trading WR Josh Gordon. Chudzinski was asked about the possibility.

    "I'm not going to get into any specifics or rumors of those types of things, but I will say that we are not shopping Josh and we have no plans of trading Josh."

    After the Browns traded RB Trent Richardson, talk was that Gordon was also being discussed in trades. Chudzinski shot that down at the time and Gordon said he received texts from the coach telling him they were untrue.

    Weeden said that the rumors are not bothering Gordon.

    "Any kind of distraction has been a non-issue," Weeden said. "As players, those things are out of our control. He's worried about playing this week."

    Sheard, Groves Back: Chudzinski announced that LB Jabaal Sheard (knee) and LB Quentin Groves (ankle) would be back at practice starting Wednesday. Sheard was injured in the Vikings game and has missed the past two games. Groves was injured against the Ravens and has missed the past three games. Both players were at practice, along with RB Chris Ogbonnaya (concussion).

    "We're going to have Sheard and Groves back at practice and we're going to work them back in," Chudzinski said.

    DL Billy Winn (calf) did not practice.

    No New QB for Now: Chudzinski said that the Browns might still bring in third quarterback, but he's comfortable with two.

    "We've been talking about our options," he said. "We'll continue to look at them."

    Chudzinski mentioned that the Browns have been just suiting up two quarterbacks for the games and with the addition of MarQueis Gray, they have an emergency quarterback.

    "I feel comfortable that on game day we're dressing two anyway we have an emergency guy, so we can take our time to do what's best for our team."

    Special Travis: WR/KR Travis Benjamin was named the AFC Special Teams Player of the Week for his performance against the Bills last week. Benjamin had seven returns for 179 yards, including a 79-yard return for a touchdown. His performance broke the Browns franchise record previously held by Eric Metcalf.

    "It's a great honor and a feeling to know that I helped the team win," he said. "There were a lot of great blocks for me. On the touchdown, there were probably eight or nine nice blocks downfield."

    Chudzinski said hat Benjamin's nickname is 'Rabbit', which he picked up chasing and catching rabbits in the cane fields in Florida.

    "When you grow up chasing rabbits, you're going to be pretty fast and he is," Chudzinski said.

    Benjamin talked about his exploits chasing bunnies.

    "I caught as many as 20 in a day," he said.

    Benjamin said that farmers would set the cane fields on fire and he would run them down. He was asked what he did with them after he caught them. He said he would sell them or eat them.

    "I thought they tasted like pork chops."
     
  8. crextin Franchise Player Browns

    :lol:

    [video]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcq0hl_bugs-bunny-yosemite-sam-shishkabugs_fun[/video]
     
  9. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

    BEREA, Ohio ? Brandon Weeden has heard the Cleveland sports talk radio chatter insisting he is the Browns quarterback of the present ? until next April when the team drafts its future face of the franchise.

    This is the latest the reinvigorated 3-2 Browns have been in first place since 1995.

    PLAYOFFS?: McGahee eyes Browns return

    How long they remain atop the AFC North ? where they are tied with the Baltimore Ravens and Cincinnati Bengals ? hinges on Weeden.

    The quarterback drafted 22nd overall in 2012 was sidelined by a sprained thumb after Cleveland's 0-2 start but has come full circle as Sunday's starter against the Detroit Lions.

    Questions linger whether Weeden can disprove his many doubters who insist the Browns' postseason hopes disappeared with quick-firing sparkplug Brian Hoyer. After leading the Browns to two straight wins, the Cleveland native suffered a season-ending torn anterior cruciate ligament early in last Thursday night's 37-24 win over the Buffalo Bills.

    Weeden came off the bench and performed admirably. Now he's primed to silence his critics permanently.

    NO THANKS: Browns exec, Sandusky's son, refused blood test

    "I've never really been in a situation where I've been doubted like this ? and it lights a fire, motivates me to get into this building before anybody, study at night more than anybody because I want to prove everybody wrong,'' Weeden told USA TODAY Sports on Wednesday. "I want to prove to everybody that I can be the guy to lead this franchise to the places we want to go.

    "If I'm worried about making mistakes, I'm making it harder on myself. So I just want to go out, have fun, just let it rip, and try to make the plays to help this team win. I have confidence in my ability and in everybody on this football team. So when I do it, hopefully, everybody will come back and say, 'I can't believe we doubted him.'''

    Browns fans have doubts about Weeden's ability to ditch the methodical minor league pitcher still ticking within.

    "I hope Brandon proves me wrong,'' said long-time Browns fan Breanna Makowski, 33. "If he can give us a reason to be hopeful, that would be great. Brian Hoyer came in and gave us reason to hope. It's hard to be hopeful when you get crushed every time as a Browns fan.

    "Brandon's been too slow to get rid of the ball. Hopefully, he learned from watching Brian.''
     
  10. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

    Be barry barry quiet i'm hunting wabbits
     
  11. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

    If I'm worried about making mistakes, I'm making it harder on myself. So I just want to go out, have fun, just let it rip, and try to make the plays to help this team win. I have confidence in my ability and in everybody on this football team. So when I do it, hopefully, everybody will come back and say, 'I can't believe we doubted him.'''

    not everybody *SORRY*
     
  12. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

    tis time to rally around Weeds . time to support this franchise . this was supposed to be a throw away year but they are winning so TANK THAT . we still have lots of holes but if we can finisf around 500 that would make me happy . very happy .

    all of you wanting a running QB may want to rethink that . they all get the hell knocked out of them . RGIII is already damaged goods so run on get smashed . give me a traditional pocket passer with some mobility like say Luck or Arron Rogers or even Big But Ben .

    this read option college chit wont last long IMHO .
     
  13. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    That's why everyone wants Bridgewater ;)
     
  14. crextin Franchise Player Browns


    Is there any talent in the 5-7 rounds Irish?


    Lombatard is crazy enough to give all the picks we have in the first 4 rounds to get him I bet *CRAZY*

    Edit: Hope he doesn't become the last QB Lombatard selected in the first round if we do get him.
     
  15. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

    why not AJ McCarron of Bama or Zettenberg out of LSU ? then we have enough picks , you want a sleeper who can run some of this gimmick crap ..Buckeye QB Guyton .he can play and looked good filling in for B Miller . you can run enough of it to keep teams off balance .

    old school here . I have seen this gimmick stuff come and go over the years . what happens they always end up back where it all began . it would be nice to throw a few packages at teams .I think it can work for a few plays a game .

    sooo how is Chippy doing in Philly ;) glad we have Chud !
     
  16. bluez M.V.P. Browns Indians

    Baby back ribs on the grill .love me some BBQ Ribs . Jack Daniels honey smoke sauce ...garlic smashed taters :p
     
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    By Fred Greetham
    OBR Senior Browns Reporter
    Posted Oct 11, 2013




    Browns tight end Jordan Cameron is off to a great start in Norv Turner's offense, so much so the young tight end is on pace to break franchise records.

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    BEREA, Ohio--Don't look now, but the faith that Rob Chudzinski and Norv Turner put in Jordan Cameron is paying off.

    Not only is Cameron playing well, he is on record-setting pace.

    Obviously, it's only a third of the way through the season, but if Cameron keeps putting up the numbers he has been, he will break the Browns franchise record for receptions in a season. Hall of Famer Ozzie Newsome had 89 receptions in 1983 and 1984, while Kellen Winslow did so in 2006 when Chudzinski was the offensive coordinator. If Cameron's numbers are prorated over a 16-game schedule, he would end up with over 100 receptions.

    Cameron leads the Browns with 33 receptions for 396 yards and five touchdowns. He is tied for sixth in the NFL in receptions, second among tight ends to Pro Bowler Jimmy Graham, who has 37 receptions. If Cameron catches one pass against the Lions, he will pass Winslow (2006) and Newsome (1982) for the second-most receptions by a Browns player through the first six games of the season. He needs just two catches to pass Earnest Byner, who had the most (34) in 1986.

    In the NFL today, many tight ends were former basketball players, including Graham, Tony Gonzalez and Antonio Gates. However, Cameron wants to put his basketball career in the rear view mirror.

    "I'm not a basketball player," Cameron said. "I'm a football player now. These tight ends nowadays have basketball backgrounds, but I don't want to be known as a basketball player."

    When Chudzinski and Turner took over the Browns offense, they saw the potential in Cameron, who had just 26 receptions for 259 yards with one touchdown in his first two seasons. The Browns decided to let Ben Watson and Alex Smith leave via free agency. They didn't draft a tight end and signed Gary Barnidge and Kellen Davis as unrestricted free agents. Davis was cut at the end of training camp.

    Cameron opened the season with nine receptions for 108 yards and a touchdown against the Dolphins. He followed that up with a five reception, 95-yard game against the Ravens. However, Cameron's coming out party was in the win over the Vikings when he tied the franchise record with three touchdowns, including the game winner from Brian Hoyer with just 51 seconds to play. Cameron had 10 catches for 91 yards and a score the next week against the Bengals.

    "He's growing a great deal," Turner said Thursday. "He's getting better. He's becoming a good blocker, which is important to us. In talking about the run, he's done a better job in run blocking.

    "He's a talented receiver and there are things that he does real well right now and there are things that we are working on to help him get better," he said. "Some ask are you worried that he only caught three balls (last week against the Bills)? He had three big catches, a big third down that got us going and a big catch in the fourth quarter. To me, it's about quality over quantity."

    It was assumed the former basketball player at Brigham Young had the size (6-5, 245) and athleticism to be something special as a receiver. The question was his blocking ability.

    "He's just understanding the game better," Chudzinski said. "He's understanding what we're trying to do, and I really think he's improving as a blocker. He had some key blocks on some of our runs from this past game that were big blocks against some pretty good-sized guys."

    Cameron said he has spent a lot of time with tight ends coach Jon Embree working on his blocking.

    "I've been really trying to get better, that's the main thing Coach Embree and I have been working on," Cameron said. "It's one of those things you just need time and reps to get better at it, and I think I've gotten better each game."

    Former Browns GM Tom Heckert saw enough potential in Cameron while he played as a reserve at USC after transferring from BYU to draft him in the fourth-round of the 2011 NFL Draft. Cameron had just 16 catches for 126 yards in his college football career at USC.

    Thus far, it looks like the faith in Cameron is well placed.

    EXTRA POINTS

    O-Line Wary of Lions Front: The Lions, like the Browns, have invested heavily in their front seven, including three number one draft choices up front in Ndamukong Suh, Nick Fairley and Ziggy Ansah.

    "Every week is a big challenge," Shawn Lauvao said. "They have guys that are disruptive and that bring pressure."

    However, Suh is the player that draws the most attention.

    "They're all talented, but you have to account for Suh," he said. "I've played against him and he's a tremendous player."

    Center Alex Mack agreed.

    "(Suh's) a good player," Mack said. "I've played him in the preseason. Their whole defensive line is a good unit."

    The Lions move Suh around, but Lauvao and Mitchell Schwartz will most likely see the most of him.

    "He's a really good athlete," Lauvao said. "I don't think you want anyone to take you out of your game. You just have to be good at what you're doing."

    Mack said the line is up for the challenge.

    "You look forward to good competition," Mack said. "You have to be prepared, excited and ready to play."

    Injury Report: DL Billy Winn (quad) did not practice again on Friday and was ruled out.However, LB Jabaal Sheard (knee) and LB Quentin Groves (ankle) did and are listed as questionable for the game. RB Chris Ogbonnaya (concussion) practiced for the third day in a row and is probable. Ogbonnaya was a full participant on Wednesday through Friday. DL Desmond Bryant (illness), OL Joe Thomas (elbow) and DL John Hughes (knee) all practiced fully and are probable. Lions WR Calvin Johnson (knee) practiced Friday and is questionable for the game. Coach Jim Schwartz said Johnson will be a game time decision.

    Chudzinski said that Sheard and Groves were "moving around pretty well."

    Hoyer Surgery Set: Chudzinski said that QB Brian Hoye's scheduled surgery to repair his ACL is for Friday, Oct. 18. Chudzinski said he is hopeful to have Hoyer back in time for the OTAs in the spring.
     

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