Get him in for an interview and find out where his head is at... Humble and looking for fresh start? Couldn't hurt to give him a real close look...At worst, he would upgrade Weeds.
"Refused to participate"??? Better check your facts there, Bub. Jawing back and forth is one thing. The same old stale Ben/Joe rhetoric is quite another. Na?ve ? I prefer to think of it as "Mature". Thanks ! *DANCE*
By Don Delco OBR Browns Reporter Posted Oct 4, 2013 After starting 0-2 and trading Trent Richardson, it appeared the team was destined for the top of next May?s draft. Now, they are atop the division standings. 0 Comments CLEVELAND ? Some how, some way, the Cleveland Browns have more wins than losses. Right now, they are alone in first place in the AFC North. ?It feels great to be 3-2 and first place in the division,? Browns left tackle Joe Thomas said. ?There are still a lot of games to go and we?ve got a lot of things we can still prove. We?ve got to keep playing good team football like we did tonight.? At this point, how the 2013 season will end for the Browns is anybody?s guess. After starting 0-2 and trading Trent Richardson, it appeared the team was destined for the top of next May?s draft. Now, they are atop the division standings. How did they get there? ?We?ve got a lot of talented players,? Thomas said. ?We play well together as a team. When the offense is not playing well, the defense picks it up. When the offense or defense isn?t doing anything special, the special teams come through. It was a good team win all-around. That?s the kind of football we expect to play.? How will they stay there? As Thomas said, it is going to take a full team effort. Starting quarterback Brian Hoyer left Thursday?s game with a knee injury. He left the stadium on crutches and the leg was immobilized. We?ll know more about Hoyer?s future soon, but it doesn?t look good. Hoyer was perceived to be the catalyst of the Browns? two-game winning streak entering Thursday. He also was the biggest reason this team had hope for the remainder of this season. As a quarterback goes, so goes the team. Now, more than ever, the Browns need to rely on that all-around team play that Thomas referenced. Is that enough to keep this winning streak alive? It helps that the overall talent that Thomas reference has improved. The speed is noticeable on defense and, no doubt, on punt returns with Travis Benjamin. Josh Gordon is showing signs of becoming one of the best wide receivers in the league and a player who makes big plays at the most critical of times. But at the most critical of positions, quarterback, the Browns are on shaky ground. With Hoyer?s injury, Brandon Weeden is back into the starting quarterback role and his play was anything but solid Thursday night. He made a couple of key throws, but his pocket presence and ability to go through his progressions left a lot to be desired. That doesn?t take anything away from the victory. For as many losses as this team has experienced throughout the years, the wins are a welcomed change. With each new regime, the talk of ?changing the losing culture? takes center stage. ?In the last three games, when it came time to make plays to win a game down the stretch we?ve been able to do that,? Browns coach Rob Chudzinski said. Against the Vikings, the Browns? offense, trailing by three, needed a game-winning fourth-quarter drive. Against the Bengals, the Browns? offense, ahead by four, needed a game-clinching touchdown in the fourth quarter. Against the Bills, nursing a six-point lead, the Browns defense needed a stop. All three times the Browns made plays to get that desired result. How many times in the past were you able say that? The quarterback question mark aside, the Browns? first five games have gone a long way to changing that established ?losing culture? that has permeated in Cleveland since 1999. The talent level is increasing. The late-game breaks are going the Browns way. The team has won three in a row. Now, the only question remains: How many more games can this team win?
I can categorically recall you entering the last AAFCN thread with a line similar to, "No thanks, I have better things to do than listen to Ravens and Steelers fans argue over who should be ....". Now maybe you went against your opening post and actually did participate, that I don't recall but I do remember that comment at the beginning because I thought to myself, "Yea that pretty much sums it up." I wasn't even arguing for Ben. Lord knows I've been his biggest critic. Just setting the record straight on why I didn't think it should be Joe either. If I had to choose I would take Dalton - for the first 4 weeks. I expect that to change quickly. Again, if you didn't expect some back and forth I don't know why you started it. Calling someone a homer is pretty minor in an AAFCN thread. Hell I remember SAS and I going back and forth about who the bigger scumbag was, Ben or Jim Brown in the '10 version. Hmmm .... I seem to be the common denominator. :[
I liked the uni's last night. Pretty sweet....I didn't like the brown pants with the white jerseys at all, but the brown on brown was a good look..... I saw Weeden do something last night that I've rarely seen from him. He actually showed some touch on those deep balls. He put some air under it and allowed his WR's to make plays....He wasn't trying to throw those fast balls that often miss. I was impressed. Maybe it's because the pressure is off him now. He knows he lost his job, and now that he got it back due to the Hoyer injury, he can just relax and wing it...I was proud of the way he played last night. He still holds the ball too long sometimes, but over all, I thought he did a nice job....
He does hold it too long. But when you give him time he can rip it. You can't teach his arm talent. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but at the very least I think the kid deserves a few games with a real receiving corps and a competent OC. He had neither in 2012 and he didn't have the first part of the equation to open up 2013.
TGIF Lounge Houndz *DRINK* *DANCE* *YAHOO* HELL YEAH!! WOOF WOOF!!! *YAHOO* *DANCE* Space still for rent? Spoiler [video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YBGtoFYPe0[/video] 3 wins in a row? Reserve your rental soon the price is going up? If it?s not broke don?t fix it? I too kind of like the Brown Uni?s ,but agree that a stripe is needed. Which do you think would look better? ? Orange strip between two white ? White stripe between two orange I?m thinking White between the two orange. Have fun at the Races Bluez? Have a great weekend all. *BYE*
I think the biggest problem with Weeds is he isn?t/doesn?t/can?t make his presnap reads and know where he?s going with the ball before he calls for the snap. When I saw him completely miss Jordon coming open on that first and 10 play after the roughing the passer penalty, should have been an easy TD I knew I?d have to eat a bit of SAS crow later. :rolleyes:
OMG, I can't believe I'm going to write this . . . Beach is right. :! With Shurmur and Childress running the show last year, Weeden may as well have had Jerry Rice, Lynn Swan, Wes Welker and Jim Brown (in their prime) and the result would have been the same.
Not to derail the conversation, but Jim Brown at age 77 would probably be an upgrade to the AFCN running backs situation.
A lot more descriptive words been floating through my mind... D/ST won that game last night. Weedens obviously got a problem with distance perception - thinks his receiver is 20 yds further down the field than he actually is D/ST cant win games for us. This is just a major kick in the ass
CLEVELAND ? Browns head coach Rob Chudzinski confirmed in a conference call with beat writers Friday that Brian Hoyer suffered a torn ACL in his right knee and will be out for the rest of the season. Hoyer, a North Olmsted native, was injured on an 11-yard run in the first half of Thursday?s game. After the rough tackle, he was taken to the locker room and was listed as ?questionable? but never returned to the game. The Browns beat the Bills 37-24 for their third straight win. Chudzinski also relayed updates on running back Chris Ogbonnaya and defensive lineman Desmond Bryant. Ogbonnaya will be out with a concussion for an unknown amount of time while the NFL?s concussion protocol is followed. Bryant is okay and will be ready to play Oct. 13 against Detroit after an incident where he experienced shortness of breath and was taken to the Cleveland Clinic.
Not really. Jordan barely played. He had Ben "hands of stone" Watson the majority of the year, Gordon and Benjamin were rookies. Davone Bess is a clear upgrade in the slot over Benjamin, Jordan is the anti-Watson and Gordon is clearly a freakin' stud in his second year.
