Hell Yeah!!!!!!!!!! Team win they really gutted one out tonight despite spotting them ten and losing hoyer. D ST and O all gave us something. Especially how many guys we were down. Now we have 10 days to rest up and savour this.
Sorry Lym, I think you shut it down prematurely...imho Years past have ALWAYS had debates, however statements like "The most homeristic paragraph in the history of message boards." were extremely uncommon. However, I really don't think anything got out of hand in there...This was the first time in a very long time that we as Browns fans had debatable material...and you, a Browns fan shut down the forum...kinda strange...the Universe really is turned inside out!
Irish, I understand everything you said. I, for one, was simply tired of every phuquing thread turning into Ben/Joe, Steelers/Ravens pissing contest. Had it not, I think it COULD have been an interesting series of threads. I sincerely hope that, some day, these folks can enter into a football discussion without wearing goggles. If you would like to pick it up and start a new one . . . go for it.
CLEVELAND: The right knee injury quarterback Brian Hoyer suffered less than four minutes into Thursday night?s game against the Buffalo Bills has implications beyond the Browns? record this season. If Hoyer misses a significant amount of time, it will complicate the Browns? decision on whether to select a franchise quarterback in the first round of the NFL Draft on May 8. That dilemma seems to loom. Hoyer left FirstEnergy Stadium on crutches after the Browns? 37-24 victory. Coach Rob Chudzinski told Alex Flanagan of NFL Network at halftime that he feared Hoyer has torn knee ligaments and he will undergo an MRI Friday, although Chudzinski wouldn?t discuss that possibility after the game. The Browns? new regime seems to have decided that Brandon Weeden is not the future of their franchise. Weeden sprained his right thumb Sept. 15 at Baltimore to open the door for Hoyer. But Chudzinski chose Hoyer to start against the Bills even after Weeden returned to practice this week and was medically cleared to play. Weeden was obviously rusty when he took over. The same flaws he showed when the Browns opened 0-2 were still apparent. Weeden held the ball too long, failed to hit open receivers and continued to take a beating with five sacks, running his season total to 16. But he found a rhythm in the second half and finished with a 95.3 rating, improving from 67.4 after two quarters. The Browns? wild victory also included Travis Benjamin?s 79-yard punt return for a touchdown and strong safety T.J. Ward?s game-clinching pick six with 1:44 remaining, 14 points that were none of Weeden?s doing. Weeden could lead the Browns to the playoffs and he still might not be able to crawl into the good graces of CEO Joe Banner and general manager Mike Lombardi. Only a Super Bowl might save him. Hoyer, on the other hand, seemed on his way to proving he might be a player the Browns could commit to for years. They were impressed with his poise, his leadership, his study habits, his attention to detail and his command of the huddle. Coaches and teammates raved about him. Long-time fans even compared Hoyer to Brian Sipe, the idolized leader of the Kardiac Kids, and it wasn?t just because of their similar stature. A North Olmstead native and St. Ignatius graduate, Hoyer is a hometown hero. But starting his fifth year in the NFL, Hoyer had played only two full games in 2013. He?d seen a total of 63 minutes and 48 seconds of action in leading the Browns to victories over the Minnesota Vikings and Cincinnati Bengals and in his brief stint against the Bills. Before he was signed on May 17, Hoyer had made only one pro start, that in the season finale in 2012 with the Arizona Cardinals. Spending most of his career as Tom Brady?s backup in New England, Hoyer had played in a total of 15 games for the Patriots and Cardinals. He was a favorite of Lombardi, who remains close with Patriots coach Bill Belichick, his former boss in Cleveland. But some figured if Hoyer had been waived by future Hall of Famer Belichick in 2012?s final cuts, Hoyer?s long-term success in the NFL was a long shot. (Although outsmarting Belichick would have been fun.) The 96 passes Hoyer attempted for the Browns in three games equaled his total in his previous four seasons. Those 192 attempts are not nearly enough for the Browns to commit to Hoyer and use their two first-round picks in May?s draft to shore up other weaknesses. The Browns? future took a horrifying turn with 11:13 to play in the first quarter. On second and 9 from the Cleveland 36, Hoyer eluded the Bills? rush and scrambled for an 11-yard gain down the Browns? sideline. As he slid, Hoyer was hit by Bills? rookie middle linebacker Kiko Alonso. Hoyer?s left leg bent under his body and his right leg hyperextended. After being attended to for a few minutes on the bench, Hoyer walked to the locker room under his own power. Facing the uncertainty of how Hoyer will recover from the injury ? especially if there are multiple knee ligaments involved ?- the Browns will likely be forced to move on without him in their long-term plans. He turns 28 on Oct. 13. If his anterior cruciate ligament is torn, Hoyer could be 30 years old before he?s 100 percent. That?s not to say the Browns will turn their back on Hoyer. The possibility of having two No. 1 quarterbacks is always a position of strength in the NFL, even though trades are rare. A crafty businessman like Banner may be anxious to see how Hoyer plays when he returns. With what he learned from Brady, he could be the perfect mentor. But Hoyer?s valiant scramble and the ensuing hit probably ensured the Browns will select a quarterback in the first round of the 2014 draft. It no longer seems a matter of if, but whom. Marla Ridenour can be reached at mridenour@thebeaconjournal
I'm, no doubt, in the minority here but I liked the all Brown look. It's really no different than the all white combo (other than, obviously, it's brown). Although a stripe down the leg would be nice. :/
Friday morning, and yep it's true. It wasn't a dream. SOLE POSSESSION OF FIRST PLACE No turnovers! Let's pray for our injured guys to recover, and our healthy guys to carry the torch in their absence. What a great feeling!!!!!!
When am I *not*in the minority around here? I like the brown-on-brown. Always have. Also disappointed you had to shut down the "All AFC North" thread, Lym. The Browns have 12 of the 22 starters! Finally... some dominance!
The guy who several times refused to even participate in the AAFCN thread starts one and that means it's automatically going to turn into a worthwhile venture? Please ... If you didn't expect some jawing back and forth you're naive Lym. I called him a homer - Yes, the biggest of all time - but in the end a homer. You overreacted. p.s. Congrats on the win last night.
It might actually be a majority here...I didn't mind the Brown-on Brown at all...kinda liked it...however SAS, that was the first time in franchise history they wore that color combo.. See, Lym, that thread met an early death my friend..I will follow your lead and let it lie though...Not all fans are a mature as us Browns fans, right Sam?
It's sad, and I'm torn. On one hand, we should lose enough games with Weeden at the helm to stay in contention for a top pick this offseason. On the other hand, Hoyer was exciting to watch and actually showed what competent QB play can look like. On the 100:1 shot that he was the franchise QB of the future, we'll never know that now. Better fire up the game film from Teddy again. Although... this guys is available...
You're right... sorry... I was thinking the brown pants. The brown-on-brown combo must be from my Madden days...
