Not only that, but if he doesn't start turning his damn head around, flags are gonna be flyin'! There was one in the endzone that probably should have been called!
*SCRATCH* Dog... All three of Hoyers INT's gave MIN the ball and a short field. The DEF was then able to force MIN to turnover the ball back to CLE on the first two and prevented anywehre from 6-14 points being added to MIN score. That in my book is bailing the QB out for a bad decision. Especially since it was only a 3 point ball game. I agree that having the offense put together sustained drives helped the D get some rest and play. Agreed that in the past the D looked worse due to the offenses inability to sustain drives.
Skrine got lucky on the first one, he was beaten like a redheaded step child. Fortunately his speed (and a lofted throw) allowed him to break up that first TD pass. Had Ponder zipped that one in there count the TD. Skrine may be getting slightly better but the KID still couldn't cover an ant w/ a 10x10 tarp. And how many more close games is he going to cost the Browns giving up a first down on 3rd and long when the opposing offense stalls out due to the Stellar play up front.
Through the first three weeks of the season, Carolina Panthers running back DeAngelo Williams is the league?s third leading rusher with 291 yards. Only LeSean McCoy of the Philadelphia Eagles (395) and Doug Martin of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (297) have rushed for more yards so far this season. For Williams, he believes the fact that Rob Chudzinski is no longer the Panthers? offensive coordinator has a lot to do with that. According to David Newton of ESPN.com, Williams took some not-so-subtle shots directed at the departed Chudzinski. ?I?m not going to start anything or push anything out there,? Williams said. ?I can say this, though ? a different offensive coordinator. I can definitely say that. The last offensive coordinator got rid of his starting running back.? Williams was speaking to Chudzinski ? now the head coach of the Cleveland Browns ? being a pivotal piece in the decision by the Browns to trade Trent Richardson to the Indianapolis Colts last week. Williams implied that Chudzinski wasn?t interested in cultivating an effective rushing game. ?You tell me what the difference is in 2013 versus 2012,? Williams said. Williams isn?t the first Carolina player to take a shot at Chudzinski this season. Wide receiver Steve Smith also threw Chudzinski under the bus about how he ran the team?s offense last year in a conference call with Seattle reporters prior to their season opening game against the Seahawks. ?The prior offensive coordinator [Chudzinski] really was positioning himself to just apply for that head coaching job. I think our offense suffered a little bit because of that,? Smith said. ?At times, we got cute. We did things that weren?t necessarily us, like the under-utilizing of Mike Tolbert. But we?re out of that. The past is the past,? he added. Outside of Cam Newton, Williams and Smith and the two biggest pieces of the Panthers offense and both can?t seem to find anything good to say about their former offensive coordinator. Whether Mike Shula can be an improvement remains to be seen but Williams and Smith both seem to feel better about the Panthers? offense with Chudzinski no longer at the helm.
They can talk all they want, under Chud their offense ranked 7th and 12th in the NFL, without him thus far they are 23rd...explain that.
Just heard yet another rumor so to speak yesterday on WKNR 850. The Detroit lions lost Nate Burleson with a broken arm in a car accident this weekend. They have contacted the Brown's wanting Josh Gordon. So that is 3 teams in a week that want Gordon. Now for the Brown's this has to be good. Instead of talking about how bad they are people are talking about them in trades. Got to love the media. No publicity is bad publicity for the Brown's. Haslam's trading of Richardson was a good publicity move. With the Indians winning and in the playoff hunt this time of year it's not good for the Brownies. Indians crowds are getting bigger. More interest in the Indians. Not good for the Brown's. But if they do trade Gordon they have to be over whelmed in the deal. If they don't trade then do what everybody else wants to do with him and add to your WR corp.
Wow! Els made a post that didn't contain the words "TALENT" or "GUARD". Just kidding, Els. I have to believe that the Browns FO considers Gordon as part of their core group moving forward. (Assuming he can lay off of the weed).
Just read on yahoo that the Brown's are going to start Hoyer this week against the Bengals. Thank goodness. I wonder when Weeden will be handed his walking bag as he is headed out the door?
the Bucs benched Josh Freeman in favor of rookie QB Mike Glennon . any interest in Freeman ? the Bucs are a mess under Schiano as the whole team hates him & his college ways . a change of scenery would do Freeman good .he is big with a live arm and very mobile . why not kick those tires ?
Nah.... *STOP* I don't see much of an upgrade there either... *NO* Let's just see what Lombatards lil pet boy can do. He did fairly well last Sunday.
I hope that Hoyer is the answer .makes for a great story local boy does good for his hometown team . I hope Hoyer starts and improves each game the rest of the season . Weeds ya had your shot and you blew it as far as I am concerned . tall task against the Bengals this Sunday . they are LOADED for Bear .I wish we had there roster .
By Fred Greetham OBR Senior Browns Reporter Posted Sep 25, 2013 After local product Brian Hoyer led his hometown team to a victory on the road in Minneapolis, he gets the start Sunday in Cleveland against the Cincinnati Bengals. 3 Comments BEREA, Ohio--It came as no surprise that Rob Chudzinski named Brian Hoyer as the starter for the second-straight week. For Hoyer, it will be a dream come true, to play in front of the Browns fans that he was one of as a youngster. "It means a lot," Hoyer said. "I think this is the part, playing at home with the Cleveland fan base is going to be special. But when they kick that ball off and you're between the white lines, that's what you need to worry about and then maybe after the game you can sit back and think about it. It will be awesome, our fans are great. Like I said, they'll be quiet for us and loud for them so it's definitely an advantage." Hoyer said he'll be able to keep his focus on the task at hand. "When you're out there, that's not what you're thinking about," he said. "It doesn't really concern me who's in the stands or who's at home watching, as far as that, because I've got much bigger things to worry about when I'm out there." Hoyer said he remembers going to old Cleveland Stadium as a kid and watching Bernie Kosar play, even though he was only seven years old. "I do remember seeing him play," Hoyer said. "We had season tickets, so every game my Dad and I would go, so I know I would've seen him play." Hoyer said it was gratifying to get a text from Kosar after his win over the Vikings. "(Bernie) sent me a message in a text and that was pretty cool," Hoyer said. "It's pretty cool when you look down at your phone and you see 'Hey, this is Bernie Kosar'. For me, when I used to wear his jersey out in the backyard to now get a message from him is pretty cool." Hoyer said he heard from a lot of individuals after his performance, including former teammate Tom Brady. "It was a pretty cool experience to come in and look at your phone and see who had texted you 'Congratulations', so it's cool to see how many people are wishing you well and are happy for you," he said. "I really don't follow the media too much and can't get caught up in it. I tend to ignore it. My main concern is to getting better today, tomorrow and getting ready for Cincinnati on Sunday." Chudzinski was asked if the three years Hoyer spent behind Brady helped him to prepare to play. Im sure (it) did," he said. "When youre playing around or behind a great player, the things that you pick up and youre able to learn from them in all areas. Im sure that was very valuable for him. Hes a quick decision maker on the field, and we have to continue to work in that area with him. Certainly, there were a few times where he made some throws that we dont want him to make. Hell grow in that area. "Obviously, Im pleased with that part of it and the part of it and the part of it of being able to put bad plays and things that happened to you in the course of the game behind you, and go to the next play or go to the next series or focus on what needs to be done at that particular time. Hoyer agreed. "I was pretty much well prepared," Hoyer said. "The interceptions were bad decisions, things that I should've known better. You learn from it, you move on. Like I told you guys, football is football, so you get out there and you get a rhythm and you do the best you can." Hoyer's biggest regret in last week's game was the mistakes he made. "It was OK," he said. "I was really disappointed in myself with those decisions I made because those are kind of easy things. Usually, that's not in my game to make bad decisions like that. Those are some of things that have kind of stuck with me but now you watch it and move on because in this league if you take too much time to dwell on last week it's going to (affect you). I watch it by myself, with the offense and then move on to Cincinnati because you have to be ready for a team like that coming in here who is very talented, very well coached and that's got to be your main focus going forward." Hoyer finished his first game with a very pedestrian 68.5 rating with 30-of-54 for 321 yards. He had three touchdowns and three interceptions. He said he's always been able to move on to the next play quickly. "That's always been my mentality is you have to move on to the next play," he said. "If you dwell on something that has happened in the past, it's going to affect the future in a negative way, whether you're dwelling on 'I just threw a great touchdown pass' or the next time you might throw a bad pass. Whether it's a high or a low, you have to move on and try and stay even keeled." After having a rough third quarter, Hoyer responded by leading the Browns to a game-winning drive and throwing a touchdown to Jordan Cameron with just 51 seconds to play. Brian obviously was critical in that game," Chudzinski said. "As I said before, I have confidence in all of those guys. I expect that Brian will be ready for this game, as well, and Im looking forward to it. Hoyer said he was confident in the huddle the offense would go win the game. "I think this team as a whole has a never say die attitude," he said. "Anything can happen, you just have to fight until the end and good things will happen. Is it going to happen every time? You never know, but we practice the two-minute drill all the time and were prepared for the situation and you just have to do it consistently. I think that's where the mentality really builds up." Hoyer said he felt very relaxed on the field. "I think I just came out and played relaxed," Hoyer said. "People probably thought I'd be nervous or anxious, but for me, I always feel the best when I get to the stadium and get into a routine and get going. That probably helped me loosen up a little bit. We had a few drives get going early, some big plays, but you just have to be yourself, I think, and play the way I play. I'm really not concerned about what I do best, I'm concerned about what I do poorly and try to learn from that and move on." Chudzinski said that Brandon Weeden's right thumb hasn't responded to the point where he's able to throw the football yet. He said he told the quarterbacks on Tuesday who would play. (Hoyer's) going to start this week," Chudzinski said. "In the next few days with (Weeden), he should be throwing a football, were hoping and expecting, by the end of the week. With the Browns hosting the Bills next Thursday, there is a good chance that Hoyer will start that game, as well, but Chudzinski said it's on a week-to-week basis. Like Ive said all along, well just approach it from a week-to-week basis and see where everybody is at," Chudzinski said. "Well make the best decision for what Ive determined gives us the best chance to win. EXTRA POINTS Sheard No, Lauvao Close: OL Shawn Lauvao would practice on Wednesday, but wouldn't commit to him playing Sunday. "He's going to practice today and we'll see how he's doing," Chudzinski said. Lauvao sprained his ankle in training camp and had arthroscopic surgery. He has missed the first three games. The news wasn't as positive on DL Jabaal Sheard. He sprained his knee against the Vikings and did not practice Wednesday. "We'll see how he's doing." LB Quentin Groves (ankle) is expected to be out for several more weeks. Kicking Quandry: K Billy Cundiff did not practice Wednesday, but Chudzinski didn't sound as if there was a sense of urgency to bring in another kicker. "(Cundiff) won't work today but as the week progresses,we'll see," Chudzinski said. "We'll see how Billy progresses as the week goes on." Chudzinski said they have a contingency plan. "We have a plan," he said. "Obviously, Spencer was the AFC Special Teams Player of the Week." Lanning won the award for averaging 46.8 yards on five punts, throwing an 11-yard touchdown pass to TE Jordan Cameron and kicking a PAT after the Browns' final touchdown. "(This week) has been interesting," Lanning said. Lanning kicked the game-winning field goal in the final preseason game when K Shayne Graham was injured. "I'm willing to do whatever it takes." Chud on Little Returning: WR Greg Little was a mild surprise kickoff returner last week against the Vikings. He returned one kick for 26 yards. "He's done it before in college and was effective," he said. "We'll continue to work him there." Running Back by Committee: Chudzinski said that he plans on using all three running backs for the time being, RB Willis McGahee, RB Bobby Rainey and RB Chris Ogbonnaya. "We'll work all those guys and we'll work packages in." Worth Quoiting: "(Our seats) were behind one of the posts, so it was kind of hard to see. I just remember trying to look around the post to see if Eric Metcalf made it up the middle." -- Hoyer on his family's season tickets at old Municipal Stadium
I know that's a joke, but Weeden got about 15 games too many. Anyone with the slightest football acumen could see leading up to the 2012 draft he was *at best* a career back-up. That clunker in Week 1 (2012) against the Eagles should have been enough for everyone to close the book on that disappointment. No other franchise in the NFL would have spent beyond a fourth round pick on an aged, already once-failed professional athlete from a system college offense. In their death throes, the Holmgren & Co. team threw a mid-first round pick at him. Mike Holmgren, Tom Heckert, Pat Shurmur and Brandon Weeden all define what it is to be abysmal at your job. Mike Lombardi and Joe Banner are a welcomed breath of fresh air!
Then just like last week, I'm giving the W to the Browns. Jeeze... what do these guys have against Teddy Bridgewater?
Not saying they are, not saying they aren't, saying it's yet to be seen... So far, they picked up a "luxury" at #6 overall, traded away a 4th rounder to a division rival, and picked a CB in the third round who looked slow on a FBS team and surprise, surprise... THE NFL IS TOO FAST FOR HIM! I'm not ready to crown them saviors just yet... We'll be able to tell more after the 2014 draft (in the basket in which they've placed ALL of their eggs)
Oh, I agree. We've seen far too little from both thus far to make a determination just yet. Am I excited they punted on the 2013 draft? Not really, but Mingo looks like he could be a great get -- even if he was a luxury -- and who else in that draft was going to change this team by leaps and bounds? I think the 2014 draft will be their signature on this version of the team. We'll have to see what they address and how they address it. But compared to the Holmgren/Heckert/Shurmur fiasco, Mangini/Kokinis disaster and even Savage/Crennel years, this is the first time I've see competency out of a front office.
*STOP* I haven't seen the FO do anything that indicates they are competent at all, confident and steadfast in doing it their way, yes, but I can't give them a vote of confidence *NO* ... at least not yet. I still have reservations about their ability to build a superbowl caliber roster and generate sustained success over the long term. We'll see what caliber of roster they put together for chud next fall.
After streaking at a preseason game against the Lions, Anthony Saveriano is now banned from attending future Browns games. He was punished also, sentenced to 40 hours of picking up tailgating garbage. (Try the veal. We?ll be here all week.) According to Cory Shaffer of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the streaker was not eligible for a pre-trial diversion because of previous offenses, so he was sentenced to community service, a year?s probation and had to pay a $572 fine. He also has to write a letter of apology to the team and fans, which will be published in the Plain Dealer, and clean up after four of the next seven Browns home games. ?We thought it very appropriate that he go out there and clean up after all those partiers and revelers,? Cleveland Municipal Judge Lauren C. Moore said. And the Browns think it?s appropriate to not let him in the door ever again. In a letter addressed to Saveriano from Browns vice president of security Pete Bickmore, the streaker was told he was unwelcome. ?. . .the decision has been made to revoke your stadium privileges,? the letter said. ?You are considered a ?DO NOT ADMIT? at FirstEnergy Stadium. If you attempt to attend a game we will pursue legal trespassing charges against you.? Of course, they might not recognize him, if he disguises himself by wearing pants.
