The Good, The Bad and the Fucking Ugly. Week 4 Tampa.

i've always "heard" that professional sports is rigged. i cannot confirm nor deny that statement. if it is rigged, the powers that be usually make it very hard to detect. i don't really complain about officiating. yes, there are some blatant calls and non-calls, but that could be due to poor judgment with the guys tossing the yellow hankies. over 125 yards in penalties is a DEFINITE reflection on the Steelers and the coaching staff, especially with 6 PFs... that's 90 FREE yards alone (unless you're Todd Haley, that's practically a FREE touchdown). the Steelers did this to themselves. Tricky-Leg says he can and will "fix it". well, that remains to be seen. this is 2+ year slide and as you all know, i have my doubts.

 

The good: I missed most of the game
The bad; I got home in time to see the end
The ugly: Tomlin is still the coach and Haley still doesn't trust Ben enough to air it out and get crucial first downs. Why throw on 2nd down and complete the pass and yet not let Ben throw on 3rd down. Let the guy do his job. Some may disagree but, to me, Ben is one of the few things not wrong with this team
Maybe I look at the Cowher years with some sort of hazy nostalgia but it seems to me that the Steelers stepped on the throats of these type of teams and refused to let them up. A one TD lead late in the 4th was a win good to go. I hate knowing that the Steelers will get a lead only to see them go into a shell with dumb play calls and let a team come back.

Man, I'm just irate about this game!

 

I can guarantee that every single one of you calling for Tomlin's head and saying that "Cowher would have never let this happen" were also calling for Bill Cowher's head year in and year out.

What short memories everyone has.

 

The Steelers have the #4 rushing offense and the #8 passing offense in the NFL. I don't think Haley is the problem. But yinzer fans love to keep saying this just like the Rooney's are cheap and won't spend any money.

 

Until Lebeau changes his coverage scheme the Steelers are going to continue to let teams move the ball and get back into the game. The new rules have made what he's always done a big liability. Time to evolve or retire!

Tomlin says he's going to fix the undisciplined stuff...why in the world hasn't he done something before now? I keep hearing people bag on Haley. Haley is not the problem with this team. The future hall of fame defensive coordinator and head coach are the problem!

Tomlin was great against sub .500 teams for the first few years. I read and article that pointed out how poor the Steelers have been over the past three seasons against sub .500 teams. The old professional veterans are gone and new leaders haven't been developed. Tomlin likes to talk about the standard. The standard starts with the head coach! Tomlin needs to change the environment! The fact that he hasn't already opens him justifiable criticism! I do not care that he won a Super Bowl with a fantastic group of veterans. I only care that he's fostered an environment where a lack of self control and sloppy play is the norm now!

Loses like this are the difference in being 8-8 or 9-7 and making the playoffs. Right now Tomlin has more to prove than any player in the locker room. I hope he steps up!

 

you would LOSE that bet, due to the FACT that you said "every single one of you"... i never called for Cowher's head. i believed in him and his football sense. i believed he could turn the franchise around after the game had passed Our Lord and Savior, Chuck Noll, by. so, you're absolutely wrong. there wasn't money on that bet, was there?

Fact: TB has now beaten the Steelers 2 times in 10 tries. last time was 1998 16-3 (on Cowher's watch).
Fact: the Steelers beat the rising Buccaneers, as they were heading to some long-awaited glory:
2001 17-10 and in 2002 17-7. remember, these were Championship calibre Bucs back then. not one of the league's doormats like today.

 

Unfortunately (or fortunately I guess) I didn't know you in the late 90s halo, but I'd be shocked if given a similar forum if you weren't making these same posts about Cowher through his lean years.

 

color you "shocked" then.

 

That would be a great hire. Snoop could blaze up with Bell and Blount at halftime

 

tune in next week when Big Ben shows up to play the Jags in Al Jolson black face and says...
"YOWZA! YOWZA! YOWZA!"

is this really turning into a "race" thing? nice going Tricky-Leg... way to play that card.
#fireTomlin
#ignoreHaley
#cleanHouse

 

Ugly: #2 in the NFL in penalties. (tied for 3rd in penalty yards)

Penalties by week: 11, 9, 11, 13

It may have seemed like a ton of penalties this week, but 13 was just 2 above the Steelers' average.

Edit: For comparison's sake, the Ravens are the #2 least penalized team in the NFL (in count and yardage).

 

Well Tech, you've been complaining about penalties for awhile now, always against the Steelers. I rarely see you mention penalties the other team didn't deserve or ones the Steelers should have gotten but didn't, like the OPI Brown should have been called for on the TD catch.

The refs/NFL conspiracy are not why Pittsburgh is 2-2

 

The Steelers miss Ike Taylor. How does a guy off the street (Murphy) get 100 yards receiving? I think the Bucs only had 63 yards rushing in the game. 6 personal fouls and that bad kick did the final trick. You could see it coming a mile away. Am I surprised? No! The Steelers have an easy schedule so they should be okay. *WALL*

 

i honestly do not think the Ravens are more talented than the Steelers players to the degree of that kind of disparity in penalties.
the REAL difference? Chicken S**t (Tomlin) vs Chicken Salad (Harbaugh)

 

So you are telling me that Joey Porter never wolfed at the other team during pregame warmups or got kicked out of a game before it even started when Cowher was around.

 

I NEVER called for Cowhers head.
I did put down his ability to find and play a good QB.
which I think held him back from multiple Superbowl's.

Hell I called for Tomlns head the day they hired him.
He didnt have the credentials to become the head coach of the Steelers.

 

Neither did Cowher or Noll.

 

Baltimore Colts

At the Colts Noll was defensive backfield coach and later defensive coordinator. Together with assistant coach Bill Arnsbarger the Colts employed shifting alignments of rotating zone and maximum blitz defensive packages.[15] In 1968, Noll's last season as defensive coordinator, the Baltimore Colts compiled a record of 13?1 and tied the NFL season record for fewest points allowed (144).[16]

Shula was impressed by Noll's approach: "He explained how to do things and wrote up the technique. He was one of the first coaches I was around that wrote up in great detail all of the techniques used by players?for example, the backpedal and the defensive back's position on the receiver. He was like a classroom teacher."

The 1968 Colts won the NFL championship by routing the Cleveland Browns 34?0 in Cleveland, but were shocked by the upstart AFL champion New York Jets, 16?7, in Super Bowl III at the Orange Bowl in Miami. The next day Noll interviewed for the head coach position in Pittsburgh.

what has Tomlin ever written?

 

Bill Cowher:
He became the 15th head coach in Steelers history when he succeeded Chuck Noll on January 21, 1992 ? but only the second head coach since the NFL merger in 1970. Under Cowher, the Steelers showed an immediate improvement from the disappointing 7?9 season the year before, going 11?5 and earning home field advantage in the AFC after the Steelers had missed the playoffs six times out of the previous seven years. In 1995, at age 38, he became the youngest coach to lead his team to a Super Bowl. Cowher is only the second coach in NFL history to lead his team to the playoffs in each of his first six seasons as head coach, joining Pro Football Hall of Fame member Paul Brown.

Tomlin inherited an already good (great) team.

 

Now if only the Ravens could get that to translate to off the field penalties.