The coaches.

Discussion in 'NHL General Discussion Board' started by hockeybob, Oct 6, 2013.

  1. skinny123 Guest

    Vanek was just on the radio with really high praise for Krueger. He's known him since he was 4 years old.
     
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  3. mattymcgee55 Legend Patriots Bruins

    Ottawa please please please hire Pattycakes
     
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  4. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Amen. Im hoping too. Would love, love, love to see 'redface' as the bench boss. He'd be a perfect fit. lol
     
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  5. KilkennyDan Let's Go Buffalo! Patreon Champion Sabres Bills Kilkenny

    please. Oh, please, please, please!
    I could not stand going to games in Denver when he was HC. I would love to see him pull the OTT goalie with 10 minutes remaining in the third when they're down by two.
     
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  7. Catfish Guest

    why did Roy quit abruptly ? he had a decent record in Colorado and won Coach of the Year ?
     
  8. KilkennyDan Let's Go Buffalo! Patreon Champion Sabres Bills Kilkenny

    The short, as well as the most accurate answer to your question is: "because he's an asshole".

    The longer answer is that Roy quit: "because he's a flaming asshole!".
     
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  9. Catfish Guest

    ok, i thought it was a bigger issue than his relation to flaming assholes.
     
  10. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Roy and Sakic didn't see eye to eye either. They disagreed on what kind of players the team should incorporate, but Dan's assessment is more betterest.
     
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  11. KilkennyDan Let's Go Buffalo! Patreon Champion Sabres Bills Kilkenny

    Sakic and Roy were teammates that won a couple Cups. In my estimation, the biggest problems that Denver has - and one that will like never be resolved any year soon* - is the ownership situation. The Avs are owned by one of, if not the richest owners in the NHL. Kroenke married into the Walmart fortune and has more money than even, gasp!, Terry & Kim Pegula. He insists, however, in running his teams as if Denver is a small market. (It's not NY or Chicago - or even Boston - but Denver is most definitely NOT a small market. The assertion that it is is a major irritant to fans, and it leads to boneheaded decisions.)

    (* An owner is not likely to fire himself, and a super rich one can hold on to his toys because money isn't the main thing in life for him. The dead guy in Chicago had to die before the Hawks were able to emerge from decades of idiotic activity.)

    On aspect of bone-headed decisions is to decide that former players are "heros" to the locals and that will give the team a long leash on stupid activity. So Kroenke hired Roy and Sakic largely based on the fact that they had hoisted the SC in Denver. The roles were never clearly defined, and because Roy is, at heart, a big flaming asshole, he wanted and assumed more say than what he was actually granted. He is the reason Duchenne wanted out of Denver. Roy is the reason that Butcher eschewed Denver, (even though he played at DU) to sign as a UFA in NJ. He nearly drove Tyson Barrie out of town. None of these antics sat well with Sakic, but he dealt with it. I think that the insistence that Barrie should be traded finally forced Sakic to put the hammer down. He is the GM and Roy (was) the HC; they had separate roles and separate responsibilities, but Roy would not (or could not) grasp that.

    What was Roy's response? In a petulant rant he quit just weeks before the season was to start. Bednar was, IMO, a very good hire, but the damage had been done, and the team earned all of 48 points his first season behind the bench. They have now made the playoffs two straight seasons with the promise of something that has never been achieved in Denver NHL history; that is making the postseason in three consecutive years.

    This is a much longer way of saying that Roy quit because he's an asshole.
     
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  12. KilkennyDan Let's Go Buffalo! Patreon Champion Sabres Bills Kilkenny

    Boy could we use the voice of HockeyBob to lend clarity to this matter.
     
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  13. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Bogus. Doesn't leave much time for finding a new hire.
     
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  14. Catfish Guest

    great info Dan. Well done and reported.
     
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  15. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

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    Dammitt !!! I wanted Patty Cakes !!!
     
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  16. KilkennyDan Let's Go Buffalo! Patreon Champion Sabres Bills Kilkenny

    This is a good hire IMO. It also is not great for the Leafs. We'll see.
     
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  17. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    They do have some pieces...
     
  18. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Elliotte Friedman reporting he thinks Dave Tippet is going to be the Oilers next coach as early as tomorrow...
     
  19. KilkennyDan Let's Go Buffalo! Patreon Champion Sabres Bills Kilkenny

    Ordinarily it is not worth mentioning when an AHL coach is extended. But, when he's the hottest (IMO) untested HC in the game, I make an exception.

    Sheldon Keefe has resigned with the Toronto Marlies for 2 years. Babbs has 4 years remaining on the contract that Buffalo dodged. I doubt he makes it past two more years.

    If the Leafs win a Cup or something like that, then Keefe hedged his bet by going short term. Smart, and good at coaching hockey.
     
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  20. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Dave Tippett will be named coach of the Edmonton Oilers on Tuesday, according to Sportsnet.

    The Oilers have scheduled a press conference for 1 p.m. ET.

    Tippett's hiring comes three weeks after the Oilers hired Ken Holland as general manager and president of hockey operations May 7.

    Tippett coached the Phoenix/Arizona Coyotes from 2009-10 through 2016-17. He won the Jack Adams Award as NHL coach of the year in his first season with the Coyotes and guided them to the Stanley Cup Playoffs in each of his first three seasons.

    The Coyotes advanced to the Western Conference Final in 2012 before losing to the Los Angeles Kings, but they failed to qualify for the playoffs in Tippett's final five seasons.

    Tippett, who turns 58 on Aug. 25, went 553-413-120 with 28 ties in 14 seasons as coach of the Coyotes and Dallas Stars, who qualified for the playoffs five times in Tippett's six seasons with them. The Stars got as far as the Western Conference Final in 2008. - NHL.com
     
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