Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper sucks thread!!

Needless to say I've already fallen in love with Bell and Wheaton. Neither are "burners," and you can say what you want about Chip Kelly changing the face of the NFL with speed (chuckle), but both players have intriguing abilities that fit the football field.

Wheaton is forever open. He uses his hands more often than his body and his change of direction is sharp. I won't presume an understanding of route running (because who the hell can know which route was called from their living room?), but he seems to plant his feet and own a cut better than most at the college level. He seems like the time that'd find the opening in a zone a la Hines.

Bell is less worn than I think many of us thought (something like 450 carries). He runs upright (looks like A.P., actually) and has a combination of power, quick change of direction, and leaping ability that makes up for what he lacks in top-end speed. Also, the man can ground a defender when utilizing the stiff arm. (I'd mention his spin move, but some folks would have a heart attack in here... Mendy).

Do I think the Steelers leaned towards need a bit more than BPA? Sure... but their selections went a bit against the grain as to what the "experts" thought were BPA, so perhaps Colbert and Co.'s list really had these fellas ranked as their selections would indicate.

19, 53, 100, 78, maybe 86 in the 4th.. man, I'd be hella happy with either of the 1st four and would be satisfied with the latter (doubt Sanders lasts longer than this upcoming season).

Also, I just wanna say that I think 144 would be all that Foote has ever been and perhaps more. I'd like to take a stab at this guy in the 6 if we have the opportunity.

 

With Thomas removed from my version of the war board, there are 109 players remaining out of 200. Through three rounds, 97 players have been drafted. I see 6 players that were not on the board as having been selected :

Travis Frederick (round 1, 31), Tyrann Matthieu (round 3, 69), TJ McDonald (round 3, 71), Hugh Thornton (round 3, 86), Kayvon Webster (round 3, 90), Duron Harmon (round 3, 91)

So that checks out and implies that the board entering day 3 of the draft looks like :

2013 War Board ?
Rank Player? Position? School
19 Jesse Williams? DT? ?Alabama
37 Kasheem Greene? ?OLB? ?Rutgers
40 Jonathon Franklin? RB? ?UCLA
50 Phillip Thomas? S? Fresno State
53 Barret Jones? OL? Alabama
54 Brian Schwenke? ?OC? Cal
61 Ryan Nassib? ?QB? ?Syracuse
63 Tyler Bray? QB? ?Tenn
67 Alex Okafor? ?DE? Texas
68 Matt Barkley? QB? ?USC
74 Quinton Patton? ?WR? Louisiana Tech
78 Jordan Poyer? ?CB? Oregon
83 Marcus Lattimiore? ?RB? S. Carolina
84 Trevardo Williams? OLB? UConn
86 Ryan Swope? ?WR? ?Texas A&M
89 Chris Harper? WR Kansas State
91 DeVonte Holloman? ?OLB? ?South Carolina
92 Stepfan Taylor? RB? Stanford
93 LaVarr Edwards? ?DE? LSU
94 BW Webb? CB? William & Mary
97 Malliciah Goodman? OLB Clemson
100 Shemarko Thomas? S? ?Syracuse
102 Landry Jones? ?QB Oklahoma
103 Mike Gillislee? ?RB ?Florida
104 Matt Scott? QB ?Arizona
106 David Quessenberry? OG ?San Jose State
107 Cornelius Washington? OLB ?Georgia
108 Jelani Jenkins? OLB Florida
109 Alvin Bailey? ?OG? Arkansas
110 Devin Taylor? DE? South Carolina
111 Andre Ellington? RB? Clemson
112 Kevin Reddick? ?ILB? North Carolina
114 Akeem Spence? DT? Illinois
116 Earl Wolff? ?S? NC State
117 Josh Boyce? WR ?TCU
118 David Bass? ?OLB ?Missouri Western
119 Jawann Jamison? ?RB? ?Rutgers
121 Kyle Juszczyk? FB? ?Harvard
122 Tavares King? ?WR? Georgia
123 Da'Rick Rodgers? ?WR? ?Tenn-Chattanooga
124 Kenny Stills? ?WR? Oklahoma
125 William Gholston? DE? Michigan State
126 Keith Pough? ?LB? Howard
127 Zac Dysert? QB? ?Miami (Ohio)
128 Spencer Ware? RB? ?LSU
130 Sean Porter? OLB? Texas A&M
131 Terry Hawthorne? CB? Illinois
132 AJ Klein? ILB? Iowa State
133 Earl Watford? OG? ?James Madison
134 Montori Hughes? ?DT? ?Tenn.- Martin
135 Vince Williams? ?ILB? ?Florida State
136 Jordan Mills? ?OT? ?Louisiana Tech
137 Vinston Painter? OT? ?Va. Tech
140 Gerald Hodges? LB? Penn. State
142 Duke Williams? S? ?Nevada
143 Josh Evans? ?S? ?Florida
144 Nico Johnson? ?ILB? ?Alabama
145 Josh Boyd? DT? Mississippi State
146 Joseph Randle? ?RB? Oklahoma St. ?
147 Dion Sims? ?TE? ?Michigan State
148 Coby Hamilton? ?WR ?Arkansas
149 Jasper Collins? ?WR? Mount Union
151 Kenjon Barner? ?RB? Oregon
153 Quanterus Smith? OLB ?W. Kentucky
155 Kerwynn Williams? RB? Utah State
156 TJ Moe? WR? ?Missouri
157 Lucas Reed? TE? New Mexico
158 Ace Sanders? ?WR? South Carolina
159 Collin Klein? QB? ?Kansas State
160 Michael Williams? ?TE? Alabama
161 Rex Burkhead? ?RB? ?Nebraska
163 Michael Mauti? ?LB? Penn. State
164 Quinton Dial? ?DE? Alabama
165 Spencer Nealy? ?DE? Texas A&M
166 Nick Kasa? ?TE? Colorado
167 Ryan Otten? TE? San Diego State
168 Aaron Mellette? WR? Elon
169 Jon Simon? ILB? Ohio State
170 Zac Stacey? RB? ?Vanderbilt
171 Marcus Davis? ?WR? ?Va. Tech
172 Tony Jefferson? ?S? ?Oklahoma
173 Stansly Mapongo? OLB ?TCU
174 Brandon McGee? CB? Miami
175 Jonathon Stewart? ?ILB? Texas A&M
176 CJ Anderson? RB? ?California
177 Cody Davis? ?OC? Purdue
178 Micah Hyde? CB? Iowa
179 Rontez Miles? S? ?California (PA)
180 Mike Purcell? DT? ?Colarodo
181 Marc Anthony? ?CB? Cal
182 Kahlid Wooten? CB? Nevada
183 Kevon Milton? TE? ?Louisiana-Monroe
184 Sean Renfree? QB? ?Duke
185 Anthony Capasso? ?WR? Ashland
186 Nick Embernete? ?OL? ?San Diego State
187 Ryan Griffen? QB? ?Tulane
188 Alec Lemon? ?WR? ?Syracuse
189 Jonathon Meeks? ?DB? ?Clemson
190 Marquess Wilson? ?WR? Washington State
191 Michael Ford? RB? LSU
192 Marvin Burdette? ?LB? ?UAB
193 JC Tretter? ?OG? Cornell
194 Nathan Williams? LB? ?Ohio State
195 Brandon Kaufman? WR ?E. Washington
196 Cierre Wood? RB? ?Notre Dame
197 Zeke Motta? S? Notre Dame
198 Reggie Dunn? ?KR Utah
199 Miguel Masonette? RB? ?Stony Brook
200 DeWayne Cherrington? NT? Mississippi State

 

I'd agree with you but then we would both be wrong. ( Nice slogan beach)

 

Not exactly a bold prediction, but accurate nonetheless. GM probably gone with him. Clowns in a circus.

 

Agreed - another smurf...

I like the kid from Fresno.. #50 if he is still there in the 4th

 

I also like #116 in the 4th... this kid is a "football Player" NY's kid...

enjoy,

bb

 

ok - who is this CB that the Pat's drafted?

Duron Harmon?

Is his a BillyB reach or what?

enjoy,

bb

 

yeah his "expertise" of drafting DB's is not exactly up there with Chuck Noll and Bill Nunn. /) I swear he LOCKS ONTO RUTGERS, just an observation.

I think 19, they are looking at his slow start and his learning curve. But he is disruptive, high motor, and heck how many guys in this class will be able to play NT, even as a backup, 4,5 maybe 6? I think Colbert's plan is to bring Twinkie Master back after the draft, and once they figure out the cap.

 

I Can explain these omissions, they were on purpose. Colbert was not drafting a Center anytime soon, and I thought Frederick was the 3rd best OC in the draft, and highly over-rated. When Mayock gave him a third round grade, he was being kind to the Cowboys fans. Jones and Schwenke are going to be better players, JMFO. The HoneyPot was just never on their radar, the kid is an asswipe of biblical proportions. Plus they got Will Gay to play the nickel, not a need for a smurf headache with an attitude. Webster had a 7th-UDFA grade, just didn't make the cut, nothing I read said the Steelers were interested. And then Harmon, Hoodie is reaching, like the Safety he drafted out of Ohio last year. I have not problem with the player he took it's where he took him, way too freaking early. Late round Safeties, there are a few I like better, that is the bottom line.

 

What positions do you think they address today? I think S and ILB. After that who knows. Do they double up at any of the positions they already picked? It would be hard to pass on some of these guys.

 

Another omission, which I got right, was Tharold Simon, I knew the kid was a douchearoo, so I scratched him off for character concerns. Heck he never even made it through the first round without getting arrested. LSU has got a big problem and the surface is only being scratched. Don't get me wrong, I think Kevin Minter does not fit into that group, and neither do the 2 RB's I have listed. They slipped through the cracks because Les Miles split the carries, and what you have are a couple of backs, without a lot of tread, who could be good. It was a numbers game, and the best RB they had was a FReshman. Jeremy Hill. Heck they still have Alfred Blue...

 

I am putting my money on 100 if he's there, although I like 116 and Ironman likes the kid out of Nevada. I doubt if 50 makes it to the Steelers, but it would be THE STEAL OF THE DRAFT. (not really I just like being a sarcastic bastage)

 

19 and 172 would make me a happy caveman.

 

They need to address the OL w depth....Pitt always has injuries throughout the yr in that segment so get some quality backups....Schwenke can kill 2 birds w 1 stone(C/OG)

 

Fellows,
I appreciate your input, could you give me your overall grade for each draft pick? Im reading the boards and am confused by just the numbers (you must have created a ranking that I did not see). I like the picks. I was telling my dad that we really need to draft our next superstar aka Troy P or James and I think we did so with Jarvis Jones. He honestly may have been the best overall defensive player in the draft. This kid is perfect for our defense and I think will shine. I also love the pick of LaVon Bell. The fact that the Steelers selected him over Lacy should show all of us how confident they are in him. We have not had the greatest luck drafting RBs but I wont questioned this pick. The signing of Lerod from AZ completes our back field and turns a weakness into maybe a strength. I dont know much about the wideout we drafted but I watched some tape on him and he looks to have great hands. That is always my biggest concern with wideouts. Anyways, I would love to hear what you guys think. Also, I hope we draft Sly aka Rocky aka Rambo with our next pick. With these new additions, we may be able to beat the Ravens again with a third string QB .

 

but it would be THE STEAL OF THE DRAFT. (not really I just like being a sarcastic bastage)

and here I didn't think you were paying attention !!!


MoS

 

Dwyer is on the blocks?

 

I voiced my concerns over Bell in another thread. I think we made two out of three fantastic picks in Jones and Wheaton. I have hope for Bell, but I can't shake the feeling that we probably drafted another coach favorite (prospects who have busted in recent years) instead of BPA.

Walter has us picking #50 in the 4th. That would be firetrucking sweet. I don't like that he's trying to push John Simon on us in the 5th when players like 54 and 140 are still on the board. One OLB is enough.

Just to make doubly sure:

Golly, I sure do hope the Steelers pick John Simon, OLB, Ohio State today! That would rock the bad monkey's house!

 

chitown there is a list of players 1-200 J0nes was 17th,Bell was 51st and Wueaton ws 66th best player available, our (my) personal warboard, go to the top of this pqge and click on steelers and look for the thread 1/2 way down that will have the war board thread

 

how long before Mayock loses his voice?

my isuue with LeVeon Bell it was too early, there are still tons of good RB left to pick from