Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper sucks thread!!

Winners in the draft; I like what Cincy, Baltimore, St. Louis, Jacksonville, and Houston, Tennesee did.

Losers in the Draft: The Jets, Cowboys, Bears and Bills all made some questionable picks and reaches.

Mixed bag: The Lions, Cardnials,

I think the biggest mess in the NFL is the NY Jets. 5-6 QB's, all mediocre, at least with Arizona they brought in a Carson Palmer.

 

So Eifert's deficiencies could be remedied via NFL coaching, but Jones doesn't have the same luxury? And what are you basing the "tub guy" assumption on? The spinal condition that relegated him to only 28 sacks in the past two years? We don't need Jones for 10 years... We've never needed an OLB for 10 years. My only concern is his ability to set the edge, but what he brings as a pass rusher is even more important. Our system thrives when OLBs can pressure the QB primarily.

 

who knows, don't forget I am an Amateur in all of this, well informed, but this is not how I make a living.

 

Round 4, I am not sure why 37 and 50 fell, I understand 19. Great value in 53 when you dress a guy who plays all 5 OL spots. There are a few good ILB's left, I thought the Bears reached with 95, I called it, not sure if my post made it in time, I 'll backtrack that one. But I hope there is a S they like in round 4. I like 116, always have. 94 would be a good pick for us, I would not be upset if they doubled down and took 74, again value in the spot. in the 4th round I think 78 has some value, you need CB depth and the Safeties might all go bang bang bang top of the 4th.

 

Any bold predictions for 2014. Mine is simply Rex Ryan is out on his ass as the Jets Coach. What the heck are they doing, they have more QB's than WR, not even enough guys to catch all the balls in pracice. what a disaster of a Franchise.

 

2013 War Board

Rank Player Position School

19 Jesse Williams DT Alabama
37 Kasheem Greene OLB Rutgers
40 Jonathon Franklin RB UCLA
50 Phillip Thomas S Fresno State
53 Barret Jones OL Alabama
54 Brian Schwenke OC Cal
61 Ryan Nassib QB Syracuse
63 Tyler Bray QB Tenn
67 Alex Okafor DE Texas
68 Matt Barkley QB USC
74 Quinton Patton WR Louisiana Tech
78 Jordan Poyer CB Oregon
80 Corey Lemonier OLB Auburn
83 Marcus Lattimiore RB S. Carolina
84 Trevardo Williams OLB UConn
86 Ryan Swope WR Texas A&M
89 Chris Harper WR Kansas State
91 DeVonte Holloman OLB South Carolina
92 Stepfan Taylor RB Stanford
93 LaVarr Edwards DE LSU
94 BW Webb CB William & Mary
97 Malliciah Goodman OLB Clemson
100 Shemarko Thomas S Syracuse
102 Landry Jones QB Oklahoma
103 Mike Gillislee RB Florida
104 Matt Scott QB Arizona
106 David Quessenberry OG San Jose State
107 Cornelius Washington OLB Georgia
108 Jelani Jenkins OLB Florida
109 Alvin Bailey OG Arkansas
110 Devin Taylor DE South Carolina
111 Andre Ellington RB Clemson
112 Kevin Reddick ILB North Carolina
113 Dallas Thomas OG Tennessee
114 Akeem Spence DT Illinois
115 Leon McFadden CB San Diego State
116 Earl Wolff S NC State
117 Josh Boyce WR TCU
118 David Bass OLB Missouri Western
119 Jawann Jamison RB Rutgers
121 Kyle Juszczyk FB Harvard
122 Tavares King WR Georgia
123 Da'Rick Rodgers WR Tenn-Chattanooga
124 Kenny Stills WR Oklahoma
125 William Gholston DE Michigan State
126 Keith Pough LB Howard
127 Zac Dysert QB Miami (Ohio)
128 Spencer Ware RB LSU
129 Will Davis CB Utah
130 Sean Porter OLB Texas A&M
131 Terry Hawthorne CB Illinois
132 AJ Klein ILB Iowa State
133 Earl Watford OG James Madison
134 Montori Hughes DT Tenn.- Martin
135 Vince Williams ILB Florida State
136 Jordan Mills OT Louisiana Tech
137 Vinston Painter OT Va. Tech
140 Gerald Hodges LB Penn. State
141 Knile Davis RB Arkansas
143 Josh Evans S Florida
144 Nico Johnson ILB Alabama
145 Josh Boyd DT Mississippi State
146 Joseph Randle RB Oklahoma St.
147 Dion Sims TE Michigan State
148 Coby Hamilton WR Arkansas
149 Jasper Collins WR Mount Union
150 Dwayne Gratz CB UConn
151 Kenjon Barner RB Oregon
152 Christine Michael RB Texas A&M
153 Quanterus Smith OLB W. Kentucky
155 Kerwynn Williams RB Utah State
156 TJ Moe WR Missouri
157 Lucas Reed TE New Mexico
158 Ace Sanders WR South Carolina
159 Collin Klein QB Kansas State
160 Michael Williams TE Alabama
161 Rex Burkhead RB Nebraska
162 Bennie Logan DT LSU
163 Michael Mauti LB Penn. State
164 Quinton Dial DE Alabama
165 Spencer Nealy DE Texas A&M
166 Nick Kasa TE Colorado
167 Ryan Otten TE San Diego State
168 Aaron Mellette WR Elon
169 Jon Simon ILB Ohio State
170 Zac Stacey RB Vanderbilt
171 Marcus Davis WR Va. Tech
172 Tony Jefferson S Oklahoma
173 Stansly Mapongo OLB TCU
174 Brandon McGee CB Miami
175 Jonathon Stewart ILB Texas A&M
176 CJ Anderson RB California
177 Cody Davis OC Purdue
178 Micah Hyde CB Iowa
179 Rontez Miles S California (PA)
180 Mike Purcell DT Colarodo
181 Marc Anthony CB Cal
182 Kahlid Wooten CB Nevada
183 Kevon Milton TE Louisiana-Monroe
184 Sean Renfree QB Duke
185 Anthony Capasso WR Ashland
186 Nick Embernete OL San Diego State
187 Ryan Griffen QB Tulane
188 Alec Lemon WR Syracuse
189 Jonathon Meeks DB Clemson
190 Marquess Wilson WR Washington State
191 Michael Ford RB LSU
192 Marvin Burdette LB UAB
193 JC Tretter OG Cornell
194 Nathan Williams LB Ohio State
195 Brandon Kaufman WR E. Washington
196 Cierre Wood RB Notre Dame
197 Zeke Motta S Notre Dame
198 Reggie Dunn KR Utah
199 Miguel Masonette RB Stony Brook
200 DeWayne Cherrington NT Mississippi State

2k

 

19 Jesse Williams DT Alabama
37 Kasheem Greene OLB Rutgers
40 Jonathon Franklin RB UCLA
50 Phillip Thomas S Fresno State
53 Barret Jones OL Alabama
54 Brian Schwenke OC Cal
61 Ryan Nassib QB Syracuse
63 Tyler Bray QB Tenn
67 Alex Okafor DE Texas
68 Matt Barkley QB USC
74 Quinton Patton WR Louisiana Tech
78 Jordan Poyer CB Oregon
83 Marcus Lattimiore RB S. Carolina
84 Trevardo Williams OLB UConn
86 Ryan Swope WR Texas A&M
89 Chris Harper WR Kansas State
91 DeVonte Holloman OLB South Carolina
92 Stepfan Taylor RB Stanford
93 LaVarr Edwards DE LSU
94 BW Webb CB William & Mary
97 Malliciah Goodman OLB Clemson
100 Shemarko Thomas S Syracuse

Let's take the top 22 players on the board, 5 of them will be there. But I can almost eliminate RB, QB so call it a hunch. My point is that one of these guys will be there. and then in the next group a few guys we like, they'll be there.

102 Landry Jones QB Oklahoma
103 Mike Gillislee RB Florida
104 Matt Scott QB Arizona
106 David Quessenberry OG San Jose State
107 Cornelius Washington OLB Georgia
108 Jelani Jenkins OLB Florida
109 Alvin Bailey OG Arkansas
110 Devin Taylor DE South Carolina
111 Andre Ellington RB Clemson
112 Kevin Reddick ILB North Carolina
113 Dallas Thomas OG Tennessee
114 Akeem Spence DT Illinois
116 Earl Wolff S NC State
117 Josh Boyce WR TCU
118 David Bass OLB Missouri Western
119 Jawann Jamison RB Rutgers
121 Kyle Juszczyk FB Harvard
122 Tavares King WR Georgia
123 Da'Rick Rodgers WR Tenn-Chattanooga
124 Kenny Stills WR Oklahoma
125 William Gholston DE Michigan State
126 Keith Pough LB Howard


bottom line is there will be a good player at 115.

 

Bites go to the Draft Contest thread.

 

Then how come in the Collaborative you took Wolff ahead of him?

I think they like 100, just a hunch.

 

What is the deal with 50, I didn't pull that ranking out of my ass, he's a good Safety

 

San Diego winners. Able to get Fluker in the 1st without trading up, Te'o in the 2nd, Keenan Allen in the 3rd.

 

As far as ILB, a lot of guys like 112, me I just watch the Senior Bowl tape and 135 stands out. they like 169, I think he's too muscle bound and stiff to drop and cover. The small school kid, 126 has some upside. And of course my sleeper OLB is definitely 153. Put him on PUP, let him heal, and let Worilds walk if he doesn't perform.

 

I hope the Eagles get him but I think they go Poyer. They need a DB and still none so I'm not holding my breath. It could be a QB or some random BPA they have or project player a certain coach doesn't want to miss, like Mudd with getting Dennis Kelly in the 5th last year.

 

I will give you that ONLY if Allen holds up, that knee is very shaky. Truthfully I dropped him to the second and never got back to drop him more behind healthy WR's. Talk about the panic button, it's the Bears. Kyle Long and Jon Bostic were taken because OL and ILB were flying off the board.

 

I heard around the webs that a few Steeler fans want Will Compton at ILB late in the draft if it isn't addressed early.

 

I like the kid out of FSU at ILB, or the kid out of Howard myself, but he's an OLB. NOt high on Nico Johnson, lukewarm on Reddick.

 

I really like the ILB from Virginia Tech in the later rounds. If his injuries are 100% then he could be a steal.

 

I think Dallas Thomas was drafted

 

He was. Miami trying their hardest to screw their future that until then was actually coming together.

 

4th round- 19, 50(I think Browns get him), 54, 63