Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper sucks thread!!

Discussion in 'Pittsburgh Steelers' started by Steelroc74, Mar 24, 2013.

  1. nybites M.V.P. Steelers UCONN

    Quick question, with all these mocks I do, how do I get them posted on the main board at NFL Mock Draft Database. They have Steelers Wire, etc.. but no LIve4Sports. And really I cannot even find much of anyone doing Steelers mocks yet, I guess I am in the minority. I would love to have my mocks published using this site and listing me as a contributor on a National Basis. I think it would be good exposure for this site.
     
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  2. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Contact Tim via a private message. Only he can help in this regard. My 2 cents.
     
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  3. nybites M.V.P. Steelers UCONN

    Tim did contact me, he is very busy with work, but it's 9 months until the draft we got time.
    Thankfully we can see some of our 2024 draft picks perform Friday Night on NFL Network @ 7PM Tomorrow.

    Ran a Simulator on Draftwire, much harder than Draft Database.
    I ended up going CB in round 1. There are 3 CB's with a top 10 grade right now, it's the year to get a really good one opposite JPJ. I think we have some good ones in camp, but they are just good, not great. Always look to upgrade your roster with better players.
    Again I don't care where you rank Deone Walker, he's not a fit for Pittsburgh. Again, there are about 5 guys 6-4+ who are 280+ in this draft, I ALWAYS TARGET ONE OF THEM IN MY SIMULATOR.
    Latest Simulator run on Draftwire.

    14. Ben Morrison CB Michigan
    possibly the best CB in the entire draft
    46. Walter Nolen DL Mississippi my gut is that he will be a target for Karl Dunbar
    78. Elic Ayomanor WR Stanford 6'2" speed guy strong hands
    142. Jaxston Dart QB Mississippi just a value pick, I think he's underrated
    151. (trade) Nick Emmanori S South Carolina Bruce Feldman's Freak list, 6'3"+ 4.3, 227 lb. safety, What a chess piece to have.
    184. Theo Wease Jr. WR Missouri antother tall WR with speed, plays opposite Burden.
    196. Marcus Mbow OT Purdue depth piece, he will eventually be a guard, huge upside
    206. JJ Weaver OLB Kentucky SEC LB who is scheme versatile, tall with long arms, good for ST
    215. (trade) Jordan James RB Oregon good vision, quick burst change of pace back.

     
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  4. nybites M.V.P. Steelers UCONN

    Latest simulator run, I can only pick what is available, but NFW is Burden there at 14. Moore is just a football player, seeing what was available he was BPA. Sanders has the measureables to play for Pittsburgh (6-4 290) all over the line. Emmanwori is just a freak, could not pass up., Mills, again another DL to inject youth into the rotation. Muhammad is another taller WR with upside. Manheim is an OL with good footwork for pass protection, you cannot have enough OT talent on the team. Steelers probably going to lose Dan Moore Jr. in Free Agency. Ott is a 3 down back and most likely Najee will not be back. Furgeson, seriously in a real draft he is gone day 2. But he was there in this one so I grabbed him.

    14. Luther Burden WR Missouri
    46. Rod Moore S Michigan
    78. Jordan Sanders DL South Carolina
    142. Nick Emmanowori DB South Carolina
    147. Riley Mills DL Notre Dame (trade with Jets, Steelers give up 146, get 147 and 179,
    179. Moose Muhammad III WR Texas A&M
    184. Johah Manheim OT USC
    196. Jadyn Ott RB Cal
    206. Terrance Furgeson TE Iowa
     
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  5. nybites M.V.P. Steelers UCONN

    Running a simulator on Draft Buzz. What I don't like is that almost pick for pick is BPA based on their rankings. Nobody gets overdrafted or underdrafted, it's not realistic because teams will reach and teams will pass on need over talent. only once did a higher rated player not go in numerical order, that was Tez Johnson, with an overall rank of 60. I doubled up on DT and WR, I am not convinced this whole Brandon Aiyuk thing is happening. I tried getting Michigan guys but they were not available, Pretty much Ohio State and Notre Dame players fit rankings and needs, so I just went with BPA.
    14.Emeka Egbuka WR Ohio State not a sexy pick, but fills a huge need for WR talent
    46. Drew Allar QB Penn State not sure if Fields or WIlson are the answer
    85.*.Tez Johnson WR Oregon only pick I took that was rated a round higher
    117.* Riley Mills DT Notre Dame Karl Dunbar special, 6-5 295
    142. Nick Emmanwori S South Carolina again a 6'3.5" safety who runs a 4.3 at 227 lbs.
    146. David Igbinosun CB Ohio State 6'2" CB from Big Ten
    184. Jordan Burch DT Oregon 6-6 290 hard to find guys with this prototype
    196. Tosh Baker OT Notre Dame 6-8 Behemoth, has the arm length you want
    206. Jack Kiser LB Notre Dame just a tackling machine

    *trade, gave up 78 for 85, 117, and a 6th rounder in 2026.
     
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  6. nybites M.V.P. Steelers UCONN

    Looking at other sites, PFF blows.
    89. Walter Nolen
    114. Drew Allar

    Seems like Walter Football is the only one with Carson Bruener graded, he gives him a late day 3 pick, rounds 5-7. I think the Steelers at least look at him, given his dad is a Steelers scout.

    Saw a mock on Draft Network, Josh Milo has us getting Luther Burden at 14. In all not a terrible mock, he has N.E. taking OT early to protect Drake Maye, and no QB until pick 4, Giants taking Beck. Teams will trade up, but if you stick to picks with no trades for need BPA, the mock made a lot of sense. Won't post the hyperlink, just google it for yourself.

    Curious to see how my draft crush was doing in Phily, the kid from Toledo Quinyon Mitchell. They really secured their secondary with their next pick in Cooper DeJean. If Hurts bounces back I can see them in the Superbowl again. Not sure how big an impact Jason Kelce retiring is going to be, but I really liked their draft class.
     
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  7. nybites M.V.P. Steelers UCONN

    I did not have Michael Hall on my board.
    He just got arrested for allegedly putting a gun to his Fiancé's head and threatened to end her.
    The Browns are "investigating" :confused:
     
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  8. gidion72 Legend Steelers

    That probably ended his career. Unless someone can resurrect Al Davis
     
  9. StlCrtn Franchise Player Steelers

    I think you can attest @nybites , but I was never on the Hall bus. I thought he was overhyped because of his potential. Surrounded by great talent at Ohio State and never was consistent. Flashy at times, but not worth a day 2 pick imo.
     
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  10. nybites M.V.P. Steelers UCONN

    Latest simulator run
     

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  11. nybites M.V.P. Steelers UCONN

    You are forgetting the Bengals.... Vontaize Burfict, PacMan Jones, Chris Henry, Cedric Benson, Stanley Wilson ............
     
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  12. nybites M.V.P. Steelers UCONN

    I have been NOT mentioning the Aiyuk trade much for a very clear reason. It will cost us draft captital and really suck for fans like me who live for the draft. I don't think he is a generational talent, not sure why he is the second coming of Jehova. Really a high end player, but he's not Ja'Mar Chase IMHFO.
     
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  13. dirk275 Franchise Player Steelers

    If God played for Steelers, could you imagine the advantage?

    If they could parade the Ark of the Covenant in front of the offense, there'd be no stopping them.
     
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  14. StlCrtn Franchise Player Steelers

    I have him in the 10-15 range. Once the kid got legit QB play, he showed how good he is. He’s not elite-elite, but he’s a top end guy that will make whatever roster he is on, better off. Also him and Pickens would be a nightmare for defenses.
     
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  15. nybites M.V.P. Steelers UCONN

    This is true, but I am wondering why they didn't push harder for a FA in the spring, Tee Higgins comes to mind. Not a contract guy, a cap guy or a FA guy, maybe someone more qualified can explain it to me. It made sense to dump PIckett and DJ they were sour grapes in the fruit bowl, not team guys at all. He may not be the same player, but I would feel better with JuJu than CA III, he did not have a good camp at all.
     
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  16. StlCrtn Franchise Player Steelers

    The problem is that JuJu is donzo. His legs are shot, have been for a few years. And it’s pretty telling if one of the worst WR rooms in the league cuts him.
     
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  17. nybites M.V.P. Steelers UCONN

    That is what I read, but there has got to be someone better than Oompa Loopa Austin III. A physical will probably tell you that more than him possibly falling out of favor in NE. I don't think he liked Mayo or the city much, sometimes money isn't better than sticking with the team that drafted you. He got his ring, cannot fault him for that.
     
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  18. nybites M.V.P. Steelers UCONN

    What I am seeing on the big general board is this. CB's remain high on the top 10, Starks is now clearly in that group and in discussion at 14 where Pittsburgh is predicted to select. That is 4 DB's in the top 10. It will never happen but 2025 is the year to get a CB, no doubt in my mind. Free agency could be a route Omar takes, time will tell. Riley Mills has fallen from top 100 to out of the top 200. Drew Allar is now clearly out of the top 50. Walter Nolen is currently at 41 I think he could be a target at 46, projected day 2 pick. I am watching the DT5 prospects closely, and it's like Jordan Burch swapped spots with Riley. TJ Sanders remains a possibility at 78. Clearly 2025 starting QB is unpredictable for The Steelers, nobody knows if Wilson or Fields is the answer. I am trying not to get to bummed out the shitty pre-season offense, but it's hard not to. That is why I keep drafting Allar in my simulator, I just like him as a sit for a year guy. HWS is not everything, but a guy 6-5 is less likely to get balls batted down. I like how he stays in the pocket and doesn't throw picks. (25/2). I also like he is 240 lbs. not a thin dude who has an NFL frame. It happens every fucking draft for me, I guy I like rated in the 60's ends up being a top 15 pick. Penn State games to watch will be at USC, how does he do on the road on the west coast. Ohio State will be a strong measuring stick, but not Wisconsin, they lost a shitload of talent, they are not even rated. But..... Maybe John Pius has a good day. Looking forward to next week-end.
     
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  19. nybites M.V.P. Steelers UCONN

    My prediction is that even though Will Johnson, Travis Hunter, and Ben Morrison are all top 7 talents, teams are going to wait. It will be another QB rush, but not like 6 of the first 12 picks. You have to put a value by the pick and right now QB's on a rookie contract is smart business. You also have to identify teams needed a QB, I count 3-4 of them possibly including the Steelers.
     
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  20. nybites M.V.P. Steelers UCONN

    Latest simulator run on pro football network traded back a few times, picked up more picks. Two steals were Watts and Evans.

    Emeku Eubuka WR Ohio State 3rd best WR in the draft class, McMillan and Burden were gone
    Walter Nolen DT Mississippi I will keep pounding the table for this guy until I know better
    Drew Allar QB Penn St. I traded back, still got Nolan, and grabbed a pure pocket passer
    Mitchell Evans TE Notre Dame Simpley upgrades Michael Pruitt, top 5 TE prospect
    Trevor Etienne RB Georgia Bloodlines are there, little powder keg if Warren seeks $$$$
    Anthony Belton OT NC State wicked underrated tackle, gives depth
    Xavier Watts S Iowa no idea how he fell that far, grabbed him in the 5th, wheeled & dealed
    Gentry Williams CB Oklahoma he's a rocket, but injuries pushed him down, took a shot.
    John Pius OLB Wiscosin my man, hope he proves me right. Wisconsin is on tv Friday night
    Johan Manheim OG/C USC who is our backup center, Herbig looked bad, not a McCollum fan
     
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