Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper sucks thread!!

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/4/15/5593804/2014-nfl-draft-kelvin-benjamin-breakdown-hands-speed

 

Interesting, I just read a stock down report and Benjamin was on it *WALL*

 

I always trust myself....these other guys just want stories and controversy

 

On the subject of tall receivers, what is everyone's opinion on Brandon Coleman? Dude is huge at 6'6" but I'm not a fan. Not physical, bad route runner, slow acceleration and gets knocked off balance too easily. Showed he can make the big play in college (22 YPC average) but he always seemed to be underwhelming.

 

Possibly worth it late. I'd be fine with picking him in round 6 or 7. The Steelers may not actually be terribly interested in an early-round receiver.

 

The guy I would really like to see in Pittsburgh is......

This guy is strong, quick as a cat, instinctive, has 4 legit pro pass rush moves. So his arms are 1.5 inches shorter than most D linemen, and he is only 6' 1 inches tall. I know a football player when I see one, and passing on this guy based on height, weight, or scheme is simply not smart. It was one thing to develop a scheme and draft accordingly prior to free agency and the salary cap, but now, as you can see, your team can look completely different within 2 years. Couple that with the flavor of the week offenses like run and shoot, wildcat, spread, and read option AND the silly annual rules changes to prevent defenses from succeeding. If you can't be flexible with your schemes then you can't be an NFL coach. If I am Pittsburgh Steelers GM and/or coach and Clowney, Gilbert, Watkins, and Evans are gone, I take this kid over everyone else in the draft. Similar players - Danny White, Geno Atkins, John Randall, Jack Youngblood, Dwight Freeney, Elvis Dummerville and Jarred Allen. To a man, 3-4, 4-3, nickle, dime, or amoeba defense, these guys are nearly un-blockable one on one, and tough to double. I'll take that any day. Pressure is more important than secondary coverage. Ask Peyton Manning and Tom Brady why they lost the majority of regular season games, playoff games or superbowls, and they will tell you that pressure from the defense disrupted their offense more than any schemes in the defensive secondary. I promise that if the Steelers can find a way to pressure QB's next year, pick up a 2nd or 3rd round CB and WR, everything will fall into place. If we draft a top corner, and have no pressure like last year, our defense will once again be mediocre. A top wide receiver in this draft after Watkins, Evans, and even Beckham, isn't going to produce much more than Saunders or Cotchery did last year, and I feel that Wheaton will step in and offer that. I am all in on best player available, and if it's Donald, we have to take him.

 

Since you really didn't mention the guy by name eggs-cept "Donald" I assume you are talking about Aaron Donald from Pitt and not Donald Duck... I think he goes to NY Giants and will be off the table..

enjoy,

one of the idiots

 

If you draft Aaron Donald and turn him into a two-gap player you are stripping him of everything that makes him a great player. He's all about first step quickness and penetrating - basically the exact opposite of what we ask our d-linemen to do. That's why Ziggy Hood is a Titan. At 6'2" with average arm length he was being controlled by o-linemen instead of the other way around. Playing the 5 technique is about length, keeping o-linemen off your pads with good arm extension and you don't scrap a scheme that has experienced the success the Steelers have had because you like a particular player.

 

Ziggy Hood is a Jaguar isn't he?

Dennard would be a better fit in the Steelers Defense than Donald would...they are in much bigger need of a corner.

 

You're right. Was thinking Al Woods I guess.

 

I am of the opinion on Donald to the a Steelers @ 100-1

 

I'm the GM for the Steelers in the second unofficial collab mock draft.

If anyone wants to PM me thoughts on who I should pick, lists of players to look at, etc., I'd love to pick your brains.

 

Or.... Go back a few pages & read forward

 

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...14-nfl-draft-steelers-prospects-meetings-list

Updating the list of players with whom the Steelers have had multiple contacts. We know that the Steelers often draft players they have brought in for visits. Also interesting is how many contacts they make.

CB Darqueze Dennard - Pro Day, visit
CB Justin Gilbert - Combine and Pro Day
CB Ross Cockerill - Shrine, Pro Day
CB Philip Gaines - Shrine, visit

S Calvin Pryor - Combine, visit


WR Kelvin Benjamin - Combine, Pro Day
WR Mike Evans - Combine, Pro Day
WR Donte Moncrief - Combine, visit
WR Allen Robinson - combine, Pro Day

TE Eric Ebron - Combine, Pro Day

DE Kareem Martin - Combine, Pro Day
NT Louis Nix III - Combine, Pro Day
DE Stephon Tuitt - Combine, Pro Day, visit
DE/NT Daquan Jones - combine, Pro Day
DE Ra'shede Hageman - Senior Bowl, combine, visit
DE Scott Crichton - combine, visit

LB Jordan Zumwalt - combine, visit

 

Aaron Donald will make a great DT for the Giants, Rams, Bears, or Cowboys.

 

Here is version 2.0 of my Mock Draft. Would love to hear some input.

1. HOU - Blake Bortles
2. STL - Jake Matthews
3. JSC - Jadeveon Clowney
4. CLE - Derek Carr
5. OAK - Sammy Watkins
6. ATL - Greg Robinson
7. TB - Mike Evans
8. MIN - Teddy Bridgewater
9. BUF - Khalil Mack
10. DET - Justin Gilbert
11. TEN - Aaron Donald
12. NYG - Timmy Jernigan
13. STL - Zach Martin
14. CHI - Ha Ha Clinton-Dix
15. PIT - Darqueze Dennard
16. DAL - Calvin Pryor
17. BAL - Anthony Barr
18. NYJ - Odell Beckham Jr.
19. MIA - Taylor Lewan
20. ARI - Eric Ebron
21. GB - C.J. Mosley
22. PHI - Kony Ealy
23. KC - Marquis Lee
24. CIN - Dee Ford
25. SD - Bradley Roby
26. CLE(from IND) - Brandin Cooks
27. NO - Ryan Shazier
28. CAR - Kelvin Benjamin
29. NE - Louis Nix III
30. SF - Ra'shede Hageman
31. DEN - Kyle Fuller
32. SEA - Jason Verrett

 

I kind of hope the Bengals try to draft Ford. He won't realize his full potential in an NFL 4-3. He would serve the Eagles better at 22, and Ealy, a 4-3 DE, would serve the Bengals better at 24. That's not a criticism of you, because these NFL teams are liable to blow their first pick anyway.

The Titans won't be interested in Donald if they're running a two-gap 3-4. Move Anthony Barr up to their pick and you have a winner, IMO.

I think Brandin Cooks will be picked well ahead of 26. Again, that's just my opinion.

 

Finally got to publish my mock, 7 full rounds. I'm under nybites as a contributor.

What a fun of tucking work, and I am sure I messed up somehow.

 

2014 Mock Draft


1. Houston Texans- Blake Bortels, QB, UCF
2. St. Louis Rams- Greg Robinson, OT, Auburn
3. Jacksonville Jaguars- Jadaveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina
4. Cleveland Browns- Derek Carr, QB, Fresno State
5. Oakland Raiders- Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson
6. Atlanta Falcons- Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M
7. Tampa Bay Bucs- Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M
8. Minnesota Vikings - Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville
9. Buffalo Bills- Kahlil Mack, OLB, Buffalo
10. Detroit Lions- Anthony Barr, OLB, UCLA
11. Tennessee Titans- Justin Gilbert, CB, Okalhoma State
12. NY Giants- Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan
13. St. Louis Rams- Clinton Ha-Ha Dix,S, Alabama
14. Chicago Bears- Aaron Donald, DT, Pittsburgh
15. Pittsburgh Steelers-Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State
16. Dallas Cowboys- Tim Jernigan, DT, Florida State
17. Baltimore Ravens- Odell Beckham Jr. WR, LSU
18. NY Jets- C.J. Mosley, ILB, ALabama
19. Miami Dolphins- Zach Martin, OT, Notre Dame
20. Arizona Cardinals- Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M
21. Green Bay Packers- Eric Ebron, TE, North Carolina
22. Philadelphia Eagles- Dee Ford, OLB, Auburn
23. Kansas City Chiefs- Marqis Lee, WR, USC
24. Cincinnati Bengals- Calvin Pryor, S, Louisville
25. San Diego Chargers- Louis Nix III, Notre Dame
26. Cleveland Browns- Kony Ealy, DE, Missouri
27. New Orleans Saints- David Yankey OG, Stanford
28. Carolina Panthers- Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon State
29. New England Patriots- Jace Ammaro, TE, Texas Tech
30. S.F. 49ers- Ra?sheed Haggeman, DT, Minnesota
31. Denver Broncos- Kyle Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech Marcus
32. Seattle Seahawks- Ryan Shazier, OLB, Ohio State

ROUND 2
33. Houston Texans- Morgan Moses, OT, Virginnia
34. Washington Redksins- Marcus Martin, C, USC
35. Cleveland Browns- Xavier Su?a-Filo, OG, UCLA
36. Oakland Raiders- Scott Chictdon, DE, Oregon State
37. Atlanta Falcons- Austin Sefarian-Jenkins TE, Oregon
38. Tampa Bay Bucs- Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida State
39. Jacksonville Jaguars- Zach Mettenberger, QB, LSU
40. Minnesota Vikings-Trent Murphy, DE, Stanford
41. Buffalo Bills- Joel Bitonio, OT, Nevada
42. Tennessee Titans- LaMarcus Joiner, CB, Florida State
43. NY Giants- Bradley Roby, CB, Ohio State
44. St. Louis Rams- Ka?Deem Carey, RB, Arizona
45. Detroit Lions- Deone Buchannon S, Washington State
46. Pittsburgh Steelers- Allen Robinson, WR, Penn State
47. Dallas Cowboys-Jason Verrett, CB, TCU
48. Baltimore Ravens- Marcus Roberson, CB, Florida
49. NY Jets- Antonio Richardson, OT, Tennesee
50. Miami Dolphins- Tre? Mason, RB, Auburn
51. Chicago Bears- Davante Adams, WR, Fresno State
52. Arizona Cardinals- Kyle Van Noy, OLB, BYU
53. Green Bay Packers- Jaylene Watkins, CB, Florida
54. Philadelphia Eagles- Bashauad Breland, CB, Clemson
55. Cincinnati Bengals- Kareem Martin, DE, North Carolina
56. S.F. 49ers- Jordan Matthews, WR, Vanderbilt
57. San Diego Chargers- Carlos Hyde, RB, Ohio State
58. New Orleans Saints- Weston Richburg, C, Colorado State
59. Indianapolis Colts- Cyrus Kuanjio, OT, Alabama
60. Carolina Panthers-Gabe Jackson, OG, Mississippi State
61. S.F. 49ers-, Travis Swamson, C, Arkansas
62. New England Patriots-Steven Tuitt, DT, Notre Dame
63. Denver Broncos- Trevor Reilly, DE, Utah
64. Seattle Seahawks- Jeremy Hill, RB, LSU
ROUND 3
65. Houston Texans-Jimmie Ward, S, Northern Illinois
66. Washington Redskins-Paul Richardson, WR, Colorado
67. Oakland Raiders- AJ McCarron, QB, Alabama
68. Atlanta Falcons-Jerimiah Attachou, OLB, Georgia Tech
69. Tampa Bay Bucs- Trai Turner, OG, LSU
70. Jacksonville Jaguars-JuWann James, OT, Clemson
71. Minnesota Vikings- Jarvis Landry, WR, LSU
72. Cleveland Browns, Donte Moncrief, Ole Miss-
73. Buffalo Bills- Troy Niklas, TE, Notre Dame
74. NY Giants- Florida Maraveous Bryant, WR, Clemson
75. St. Louis Rams- Jared Aberderis, WR, Wisconsin
76. Detroit Lions- Chris Borland, ILB, Wisconsin
77. S.F. 49ers-Stanley Keith McGill, CB, UTah
78. Baltimore Ravens- Carl Bradford. OLB, Arizona State
79. Dallas Cowboys- Ahmad Dixon, S, Baylor
80. NY Jets- C.J. Fiedorowicz, TE, Iowa
81. Miami Dolphins-Dakota Dozier, OG, Furman
82. Chicago Bears- Will Sutton, DT, Arizona State
83. Cleveland Browns-Billy Turner, OT, North Dakota State
84. Arizona Cardinals-Craig Loston, S, LSU
85. Green Bay Packers-Telvin Smith, ILB, Florida State
86. Philadelphia Eagles-Terrance Brooks, S, Florida State
87. K.C. Chiefs-Marcus Smith, DE, Louisville
88. Cincinnati Pierre Desir, CB, Lindenwood
89. San Diego Chargers- Cyril Richardson, OG, Baylor
90. Indianapolis Colts-Chris Smith, DE, Arkansas
91. New Orleans ? Victor Hampton, CB, South Carolina
92. Carolina Panthers- Bishop Sankey, RB, Baylor
93. New England Patriots-Christian Jones, ILB, Florida State
94. S.F. 49ers- Andre Williams, RB, Boston College
95. Denver Broncos- Ego Furguson, DT, LSU
96. Minnesota Vikings- Bruce Ellington, WR, South Carolina
97. Pittsburgh Steelers- DaQuan Jones, DT, Penn State
98.Green Bay Packers Charles Sims, RB, West Virginia
99. Baltimore Ravens Ed Reynolds, S, Stanford
100. S.F. 49ers Kelcey Quarles, DT, South Carolina

Round 4

101. Houston Texans- Phillip Gaines, CB, Rice
102. Washington Redskins- Preston Brown, ILB, Louisville
103. Atlanta Falcons- Anthony Johnson, DT, LSU
104. New York Jets- Robert Heron, WR, Wyoming
105. Jacksonville Jaguars- Davonte Freeman, RB, Florida State
106. Cleveland Browns- Jackson Jeffcoat, DE, Texas
107. Oakland Raiders- Dominic Easley, DT, Florida
108. Minnesota Vikings- Jack Mewhort, OT, Ohio State
109. Buffalo Bills- Dion Baiely, FS, USC
110. St. Louis Rams- Christian Kirksey, LB ,Iowa
111. Detroit Lions- Jeff Janis, WR, Saginaw Valley State
112. Tennessee Titans- Rashad Reynolds, CB, Oregon State
113. New York Giants- Lache Seastrunk, RB, Baylor
114. Jacksonville Jaguars- Tom Savage, QB, Pittsburgh
115. New York Jets- DeMarcus Lawrence, DE, Boise State
116. Miami Dolphins- Stanley Jean-Baptiste, CB, Nebraska
117. Chicago Bears- Shane Skov, LB, Stanford
118. Pittsburgh Steelers- Ross Cockrell, CB, Duke
119. Dallas Cowboys, Brandon Thomas, OG, Clemson
120. Arizona Cardinals- Cameron Fleming, OT, Stanford
121. Green Bay Packers- Josh Huff, WR, Oregon
122. Philadelphia Eagles- Ryan Grant, WR, Tulane
123. Cincinnati Bengals- Jordan Zumwalt, OLB, UCLA
124. Kansas City Chiefs- Crockett Gilmore, TE, Colorado State
125. San Diego Chargers- Louichez Purifoy, CB, Florida
126. New Or4leans Saints- Jon Halapio, OG, Florida
127. Cleveland Browns, James Gayle, OLB, Virginia Tech
128. Carolina Panthers- James Hurst, OT, North Carolina
129. SF 49ers- Charles Leno, OT, Nevada
130. New England Patriots- Brandon Coleman, WR, Rutgers
131. Denver Broncos- Dri Archer, KR, Kent
132. Seattle Seahawks- George Uko, DT, USC
133, Detroit Lions- Arthur Lynch, TE, Georgia
134. Baltimore Ravens- Terrance West, RB, Towson
135. Houston Texans- Will Clarke, DE, West Virginia
136. Detroit Lions- EJ Gaines, CB, Missouri
137. NY Jets Kenny Ladler, S, Vanderbilt
138. Baltimore Ravens, Xavier Grimble, TE, USC
139. Atlanta Falcons- Cody Latimore, WR, Indiana
140. New England Patriots,- Adrian Hubbard, OLB, Alabama
Round 5

141. Houston Texans- Jordan Tripp, OLB, Montana
142. Washington Redskins- Michael Schofield, OT, Michigan
143. Tampa Bay Bucs- Donte Rumph, DT, Kentucky
144. Jacksonville Jaguars- Marcel Jenkins, TE, Fresno State
145. Cleveland Browns- Ricardo Allen, CB, Purdue
146. Seattle Seahawks- Tyler Gafney, RB, Stanford
147. Atlanta Falcons- Chris Davis, CB, Auburn
148. Minnesota Vikings- Deion Belue, CB, Alabama
149. Buffalo Bills- Brent Urban, DT Virginia
150. Jacksonville Jaguars- Chris Watt, OG, Notre Dame
151. Tennessee Titans- Daniel McCullers, DT, Tenn.
152, New York Giants- Ed Stinson ,DT, Alabama
153. St. Louis Rams- Ryan Carrethers, DT, Arkansas State
154. New York Jets- Justin Jones, TE, East Carolina
155. Miami Dolphins- Mike Davis, WR, Texas
156. Chicago Bears- Brian Stork, C, Florida
157. Pittsburgh Steelers- Yawin Smallwood, ILB, UConn
158. Dallas Cowboys- Lamin Barrow, ILB, LSU
159. Jacksonville Jaguars- Prince Shembo, LB, Notre Dame
160. Arizona Cardinals- Anthony Steen, OG, Alabama
161. Green Bay Packers- Isaiah Lewis, SS, Michigan State
162. Philadelphia Eagles- TJ Jones, WR Notre Dame
163. Kansas City Chiefs- Nevin Lawson, CB, Utah State
164. Cincinnati Bengals- Ronald Powell, OLB, Florida
165. San Diego Chargers- Devin Street, WR, Pitt
165. Indianapolis Colts- Josh Mauro, DE, Stanford
167. New Orleans Saints- Antoinne Exum, CB , Virginia Tech
168. Carolina Panthers- Walt Aikens, CB, Liberty
169. New Orleans Saints- Seantrel Henderson, OT, Miami
170. SF 49ers- Jay Prosch, FB, Auburn
171. Denver Broncos- Nat Behre, SS, South Dakota State
172. Seattle Seahawks- Cody Hoffman, WR, BYU
173. Pittsburgh Steelers- Kevin Norwood, WR, Alabama
174. NY Giants- Tyler Larsen, C, Utah State
175. Baltimmore Ravens- Justin Ellis- DT, Louisianna Tech
176. Green Bay Packers-Matt Patchan, OT, Boston College


Round 6

1 (177). Houston Texans De Anthony Thomas, RB, Oregon
2 (178). Washington Redskins Marqueston Huff, FS, Wyoming
3 (179). Jacksonville Jaguars Andre Hal, CB , Vanderbilt
4 (180). Cleveland Browns Isiah Crowell, RB, Alabama State
5 (181Houston Texans Terrance Mitchell, CB, Oregon
6 (182). Atlanta Falcons Bene Bewikere, CB, San Jose State
7 (183) Chicago Bears Bennet Jackson, CB, Notre Dame
8 (184). Minnesota Vikings Morgan Breslin, OLB, USC
9 (185). Buffalo Bills DeAndre Coleman, DT, California
10 (186). Tennessee Titans Kadeem Edwards, OG, Tennessee State
11 (187). New York Giants Aaron Murray, QB, Georgia
12 (188). St. Louis Rams Michael Sam, DE, Missouri
13 (189). Detroit Lions Russell Bodine, OG, North Carolina
14 (190). Miami Dolphins Casius Marsh, OLB, UCLA
15 (191). Chicago Bears James Wilder Jr, RB, Florida State
16 (192). Pittsburgh Steelers Howard Jones, OLB, Sheppard
17 (193). Kansas City Chiefs Storm Johnson, RB, UCF
18 (194). Baltimore Ravens Tre Boston, S, North Carolina
19 (195). New York Jets David Fales, QB, San Jose St.
20 (196). Arizona Cardinals Jerick McKinnon, RB, Georgia Southern
21 (197). Green Bay Packers Taylor Hart., DE, Oregon
22 (198). New England Patriots Blake Annen, TE, Cincinnati
23 (199). Cincinnati Bengals Jaleen Saunders, WR, Oklahoma
24 (200). Kansas City Chiefs Matt Patcha, OT, Boston College
25 (201). San Diego Chargers Justin Britt, OT, Missouri
26 (202). New Orleans Saints Carrington Byndum, CB, Texas
27 (203). Indianapolis Colts Dontae Johnson, FS, North Carolina State
28 (204). Carolina Panthers Kharii Forte OLB California
29 (205). Jacksonville Jaguars Devon Kennard, OLB, USC
30 (206). New England Patriots John Urschal, OG, Penn State
31 (207). Denver Broncos A.C. Leonard, TE, Tennessee State
32 (208). Seattle Seahawks Ryan Groy, OG, Wisconsin
33 (209). New York Jets Wesley Johnson, OT, Vanderbilt
34 (210). New York Jets L?Damanian Washington, Missouri
35 (211). Houston Texans Vinnie Sunseri, SS, Alabama
36 (212). Cincinnati Bengals Richard Rogers, TE, Califorina
37 (213). New York Jets Michael Campanaro, WR, Wake Forest
38 (214). St. Louis Rams Kevin Pierre-Louis, OLB, Boston College
39 (215). Pittsburgh Steelers James White, RB, Wisconsin
Round 7
Pick (overall)
1 (216). Houston Texans Aaron Lynch, DE, Florida
2 (217). Washington Redskins Lavelle Westbrooks, CB, Georgia Southern
3 (218). Cleveland Browns Spencer Long, OG, Nebraska
4 (219). Oakland Raiders Johnathon Darling, FS, Western Kentucky
5 (220). Atlanta Falcons Andrew Jackson, ILB, Kentucky
6 (221). Tampa Bay Buccaneers Jamica Thomas, FS, Georgia Tech
7 (222). Jacksonville Jaguars Austin Franklin, WR, New Mexico State
8 (223). Minnesota Vikings Corey Lindsey, C, Ohio State
9 (224). Buffalo Bills Aaron Colvin, CB, Oklahoma
10 (225). Carolina Panthers Tyler Starr, OLB, South Dakota
11 (226). St. Louis Rams Taj Boyd, QB, Clemson
12 (227). Detroit Lions Larenzo Talifero, RB,
13 (228). Tennessee Titans Nickoe Whitley, FS, Mississippi State
14 (229). Dallas Cowboys Matt Hall, OT, Bellhaven
15 (230). Pittsburgh Steelers Steven Clark, P, Auburn
16 (231). Dallas Cowboys Tracey Moore, WR, Oklahoma State
17 (232). Indianapolis Colts Avery Williamson, ILB, Kentucky
18 (233). New York Jets Marion Grice, RB, Arizona State
19 (234). Miami Dolphins Jay Bromely, DT, Syracuse
20 (235). Oakland Raiders David Fluellen, RB, Toledo
21 (236). Green Bay Packers Tim Jackson, DT, North Carolina
22 (237). Philadelphia Eagles Matt Feiler OT Bloomsburg
23 (238). Dallas Cowboys Alex Neutz, WR, Buffalo
24 (239). Cincinnati Bengals Andrew Norwell, OG, Ohio State
25 (240). San Diego Chargers Joe Don Duncan, TE, Dixie State
26 (241). St. Louis Rams Chris Boswell, K, Rice
27 (242). San Francisco 49ers Spencer Shuey, ILB, Clemson
28 (243). San Francisco 49ers Brett Smith, QB, Wyoming
29 (244). New England Patriots Rajon Neal, RB, Tennessee
30 (245). San Francisco 49ers Beau Allen, DT, Wisconsin
31 (246). Denver Broncos Silas Redd, RB, USC
32 (247). Seattle Seahawks Marquis Spruill, LB, Syracuse
33 (248).Dallas Cowboys Derrell Johnson,OLB, East Carolina
34 (249). St. Louis Rams Brian Clarke, OG, Bloomsburg
35 (250). St. Louis Rams Kirby Van Der Kamp, P, Iowa
36 (251). Dallas Cowboys Colt Lyria, TE, Oregon
37 (252). Cincinnati Bengals Deron Furr, S, Fort Valley State
38 (253). Atlanta Falcons Brandon Linder, OG, Miami
39 (254). Dallas Cowboys JC Copeland, FB, LSU
40 (255). Atlanta Falcons Carlos Fields Jr. OLB, Winston-Salem
41 (256). Houston Texans Gator Hoskins, FB, Marshall

 

Nice work! - If it's me picking and Lewan is still on the board as he is in your draft - I'd take him at #15. I think the CB spot is deeper thru the draft and after about the middle of the 2nd round the OT is going over the cliff... talent wise.. I'm not wild about either M.Adams or "Oh my Leg" Gillbert.. Also the WR class is deep. just my opinion - I'd go Lewan

enjoy,

one of the idiots