Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper sucks thread!!

1. CJ Mosley ILB
2.Donte Momcrief WR
3. DaQuan Jones DE
4. Pierre Desir CB
5. James White RB
5. Ryan Carrethers NT
6. Kevin Norwood WR
7. Phillip Gaines CB
7. Howard Jones OLB

 

The fact that BOTH Colbert and Tomlin were at Darquez Dennard and Justin Gilbert's Pro Days and spent time with the guys after shows they are very interested in either player at #15. I am sure they will bring in the WR's and talk to some TE's, but they have a VERY good opportunity to have one or both guys sitting there on the board when they pick.

Once the flurry of free agency is settled and people set their draft board to reflect what each team NOW needs, I'm almost positive that both guys will be attached to the Steelers A LOT during the rest of the offseason. If, for some reason, both guys are gone, I see them targeting CJ Mosley, but I just don't see that happening.

Of the two, I am higher on Gilbert because he is a tad taller and can return punts. Dennard may be shorter, but he is more physical and is a walking highlight reel. I'm not sure how much of that had to do with the subpar QB play in the Big 10 or his God-given talent, but I like Gilbert's consistency against better teams.

As I said, I would be elated if the Steelers got either guy and, as teams settle their rosters with Free Agency, I see these guys being pushed down.

 

We need Mosley or a CB in a big way.

I still think Moncrief goes in the 3rd. Probably doesn't last until our comp pick but second round is probably too soon for him. Hope the Ravens don't get him in the 3rd. Instant contributor.

 

Seeing as how Terrance Cody is still available. Do you think the Steelers should give him a look? If he can get his s*** together, he could be a great plug up the middle.

 

"Fat, drunk. & a Draft bust is no way to go through life son- Dean Wormer

 

Bigger bust, Cody or Brace? For the record I was thumbs down on both! Phil Taylor on the other hand...

 

He might be hard to pass up at 31.

 

If he will be an instant contributor, the 2nd round is not too early. Take him when you can, I say.

 

That my logic right there. We all had LeVeon Bell as a 3rd round pick, and we were surprised at mid second. The draft is a chess game, think 5-10 moves ahead in this case 31 moves ahead. I'd like James White to go with Bell, nice
1-2 punch. DeAnthonynThomas is on my radar if LSH isn't resigned or medically ready to play .

 

If they sign Carrington, your starters at DE are set for the foreseeable future. DL becomes a depth issue, much like OLB and receiver at that point.

 

Yea but, isn't Carrington an injury concern?

 

Mano, very true, then I can scrap most of the work I've done watching DEs this offseason because we made an unexpected foray into free agency to remedy the issue. *WALL*

In such a scenario, the top three needs suddenly become CB, WR, and NT, and some would reasonably argue against NT.

Gidion, the Steelers won't sign him if he fails any sort of physical.

 

Carrington spent most of last year on IR after tearing his quad muscle in week 3. He hadn't been an injury concern prior to that, so if he's healthy now, or expected to be healthy for spring practices and training camp, I have no issue with signing him. Guys get hurt, its football.

The good news is that the injury has likely hurt his market. He had a very good season in 2012 and was expected to have another big year in 2013 before the injury. He could come pretty cheap on a 2 year deal until he proves himself again.

 

1. Anthony Barr (LB)/ Kelvin Benjamin (WR)

2. Jordan Matthews (WR)/ Keith McGill (DB)

3. Terrance Brooks (SS)/ Joel Bitonio (G)

4. Jackson Jeffcoat (OLB/DE)/ CJ Fiedeorowicz (TE)

5. Dri Archer (RB)/ Justin Ellis (NT)

6. Khairi Fortt (LB)/ Ross Cockrell (DB)

7. Preston Brown (LB)/ Richie Leone (P)

 

The Steelers just signed Cam Thomas DT San Diego.

 

That's good news , proven NFL starter/ reserve who played in a 3-4. Bring Kiesel back for a last hurrah, develop Arnfelt and Williams. They have not drafted a CB in the first round since Chad Scott in. 1997, this may change.

 

Thomas has the size and length to play anywhere on the line in a pinch. I wouldn't make him a full-time DE, probably, but at 6'4" those extra inches could come in handy in certain situations on the outside.

Right now, though, McLendon is the better player, and I don't see Thomas challenging him at all.

 

Yeah but he's no Phil Taylor !

 

1. Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Eastern Illinois ? A quick-paced passer with a lightning-fast release who has his struggles with pressure, but projects as a NFL starter down the road.

2. Billy Turner, OL, North Dakota State ? The collegiate left tackle projects best inside at the next level where he can use his athletic feet and nasty demeanor to control the point of attack.

3. Dakota Dozier, OL, Furman ? Another collegiate left tackle who projects best inside and should find NFL success with his natural flexibility and quick reflexes.

4. Isaiah Crowell, RB, Alabama State ? Arguably the most talented running back in this draft class, the former SEC Freshman of the Year has a high NFL ceiling if he stays clean and committed.

5. Pierre Desir, CB, Lindenwood ? Tall and lengthy cover man who will need some time to adjust to the NFL game, but his natural instincts, make-up and athleticism project well to the pros.

6. Terrance West, RB, Towson ? An impressive player and person, the junior re-wrote the FCS record books this past season and offers an intriguing blend of power and quick feet.

7. Caraun Reid, DT, Princeton ? A quick-footed interior penetrator who has the skill-set to line up at different spots up front and will be attractive to both three and four man fronts.

8. Jordan Tripp, OLB, Montana ? Athletic and instinctive defender who read-and-reacts in a flash with the closing speed to play both sidelines and finish at the ballcarrier.

9. Zach Kerr, DT, Delaware ? A bulky, stout nose tackle, the 326-pounder is surprisingly light on his feet, but also offers the power to match his large frame and very good backfield vision.

10. Jerick McKinnon, RB, Georgia Southern ? A combine star, the former college quarterback opened eyes in Indianapolis with a 4.41 40-yard dash and 32 reps on the bench press.

11. Walt Aikens, CB, Liberty ? A surprise snub from the NFL Combine, the tall, long cornerback isn't a speedster, but he shows natural football awareness and quick feet to mirror.

12. A.C. Leonard, TE, Tennessee State ? A Florida transfer, he looks more like a bulky wide receiver, but he has the speed and playmaking ability to make an impact if the character checks out.

13. Ethan Westbrooks, DE, West Texas A&M ? The 2012 Division-II Defensive Player of the Year, the 6-3, 267-pounder led the team with 19.5 tackles for loss this past season.

14. Kendall James, CB, Maine ? Although his size isn't enticing (5-10, 180), he turned heads at the NFL Combine with a 4.43 40-yard dash, 6.81 three-cone and a 39-inch vertical jump.

15. Zach Moore, DE, Concordia (MN) ? Trying to become the first player from his school to be drafted, this pass rusher has the quickness, flexibility and motor to make plays.

16. Matt Hazel, WR, Coastal Carolina ? Setting numerous school records at Coastal Carolina, he isn't the fastest or biggest, but he's a controlled route runner with very reliable hands.

17. Larry Webster, DE/TE, Bloomsburg ? The converted basketball star is a tall, long athlete who lacks ideal muscle build and might project best as a pass-catcher on offense.

18. Howard Jones, LB, Shepherd ? A tweener pass rusher who needs refinement, but the first step burst (1.63 10-yard split) and speed (4.60 40-yard dash) cannot be coached.

19. John Brown, WR, Pittsburg State ? Diminutive in size (5-10, 179), but speedy (4.34 40-yard dash) with sharp footwork in create separation in his routes and create after the catch.

20. Matt Feiler, OL, Bloomsburg ? A versatile blocker with experience at tackle and guard, the 6-6, 330-pounder is country strong to latch onto defenders and create running lanes.

21. Jeff Janis, WR, Saginaw Valley State ? Ultra-productive at the Division-II level with his impressive combination of size (6-3, 219), strength (20 reps) and speed (4.42 40-yard dash).

22. Lavelle Westbrooks, CB, Georgia Southern ? Quicker-than-fast and versatile cover man with the coordinated footwork and smooth redirection skills to blanket receivers.

23. Kadeem Edwards, OG, Tennessee State ? Although he doesn't stand out in any one area, the 313-pound guard looks the part with good build and a large wingspan (84-inches).

24. Lorenzo Taliaferro, RB/FB, Coastal Carolina ? Not a quick-twitch athlete, but projects as an every-down back because of his ability to catch the ball and pass protect.

25. Joe Don Duncan, TE, Dixie State ? Although durability remains a big question mark, the 6-2, 268-pounder has brute strength (36 reps) and a productive resume when on the field.

Just missed:

QB Jeff Mathews (Cornell), QB Dustin Vaughan (West Texas A&M), TE Reggie Jordan (Missouri Western State), DT Mike Pennel (Colorado State-Pueblo), WR Albert Wilson (Georgia State), S Nic Jacobs (McNeese State), TE Reggie Jordan (Missouri Western State), WR Walt Powell (Murray State), CB Brandon Dixon (NW Missouri State), DE Kerry Wynn (Richmond), RB Tim Flanders (Sam Houston State), LB Tyler Starr (South Dakota), CB Todd Washington (SE Louisiana State), WR Erik Lora (Eastern Illinois), DE Rakim Cox (Villanova), LB Nate Dreiling (Pittsburg State), CB Qua Cox (Jackson State), CB Dominic Clarke (Illinois State)
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Partial small school list I pulled off CBS.... some names we've talked about.. and Manook will be happy - look at the list of names from the Just missed section....


Couple of notes - I like Dozier over Turner for OL.. Tyler Starr - saw him in either the Shrine or Senior bowl and was not impressed - same for Jordan Tripp who looks like a 4-3 OLB to me... The kid from Delaware needs a look. and we;ve talked about a lot of the others

enjoy,

one of the idiots

 

Dozier is a better guard and Turner is a better tackle. Depends what you are looking for.