Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper sucks thread!!

Nice list bb, though my hope is they don't even grab a guard in this draft if they can bring back Velasco and/or Wallace, plus Embernasty in waiting. I'll try to get my lists up tonight.

 

Walter now has Bortles going #1 overall.

 

Yeah I saw that too.. Combine/pro days - may get real interesting for a few of these players

enjoy,

one of the idiots

 

Thanks sb.. I need to go back and edit the OG list and add the kid from Neveda... He's a OT/OG - might be better suited at the guard spot... I'm with ya - hoping we dont need to draft a OG

enjoy,

one of the idiots

 

In the past we've included everyone in our Big Board but for our individual positional rankings we ranked based on scheme fit. For example, Clowney will be in the Top 5 of our big board but won't appear in our individual OLB and DE rankings because he doesn't fit in either.

 

Roc,

I go by size of player. 6-4 275 is a DE, 6-2 250 is an OLB,some thing like that. They like they're OLB's shorter than other teams, Worilds is 6-3 and he's the tallest.

Ny

 

Combine invitee list:

Here is a look at the list, by position:

QUARTERBACKS
*Bortles, Blake, Central Florida
Boyd, Tajh, Clemson
Bridgewater, Theodore (Teddy), Louisville
Carr, Derek, Fresno State
Fales, David, San Jose State
Garoppolo, James (Jimmy), Eastern Illinois
Lynch, Jordan, Northern Illinois
*Manziel, Johnnyxas A & M
Mathews, Jeffrey (Jeff), Cornell
Mc Carron, Raymond (A.J.), Alabama <--- Will he skip the combine? what a Jagoff
Mettenberger, Zachary (Zach), Louisiana State
Morris, Stephen, Miami
Murray, Aaron, Georgia
Renner, Bryn, North Carolina
Savage, Thomas (Tom), Pittsburgh
Shaw, Connor, South Carolina
Thomas, Logan, Virginia Tech
Vaughan, Dustin, West Texas A & M
Wenning, Keith, Ball State

RUNNING BACKS
Andrews, Antonio, Western Kentucky
Archer, Dri, Kent State
*Atkinson, George, Notre Dame
*Bibbs, Kapri, Colorado State
*Blue, Alfred, Louisiana State
*Carey, Ka'deem, Arizona
Copeland, Javoddron (J.C.), Louisiana State
Cornett, Timothy (Tim), Nevada - Las Vegas
*Crowell, Isaiah, Alabama State
Flanders, Timothy, Sam Houston State
Fluellen, David, Toledo
*Freeman, Devonta, Florida State
Gaffney, Tyler, Stanford
Grice, Marion, Arizona State
Hewitt, Ryan, Stanford
*Hill, Jeremy, Louisiana State
Hyde, Carlos, Ohio State
*Johnson, Westleigh (Storm), Central Florida
*Josey, Henry, Missouri
*Mason, Tre, Auburn
Mc Kinnon, Jerick, Georgia Southern
Millard, Trey, Oklahoma
*Muema, Adam, San Diego State
Perkins, Ladarius, Mississippi State
Redd, Silas, Southern California
*Sankey, Bishop, Washington
*Seastrunk, Lache, Baylor
Sims, Charles, West Virginia
*Smith, Jerome, Syracuse
Taliaferro, Lorenzo, Coastal Carolina
*Thomas, De'anthony, Oregon
*Westrrance, Towson
White, James, Wisconsin
*Wilder, James, Florida State
Williams, Andre, Boston College
Williams, Damien, Oklahoma

TIGHT ENDS
*Amaro, Jacexas Tech
Blanchflower, Robert (Rob), Massachusetts
Burton, Lawrence (Trey), Florida
Denham, Anthony (A.D.), Utah
Duncan, Joseph (Joe Don), Dixie
*Ebron, Eric, North Carolina
Fedorowicz, Colton (C.J.), Iowa
Gillmore, Crockett, Colorado State
*Grimble, Xavier, Southern California
*Jacobs, Nicholas (Nic), Mc Neese State
Jensen, Marcel, Fresno State
Jordan, Reginald (Reggie), Missouri Western State
*Leonard, A.C.nnessee State
*Lyerla, Colt, Oregon
Lynch, Arthur, Georgia
*Murphy, Jake, Utah
Najvar, Jordan, Baylor
*Niklas, Troy, Notre Dame
Pedersen, Jacob (Jake), Wisconsin
*Rodgers, Richard, California
*Seferian-Jenkins, Austin, Washington
Tialavea, Donald (D.J.), Utah State

WIDE RECEIVERS
Abbrederis, Jared, Wisconsin
*Adams, Davante, Fresno State
*Beckham, Odell, Louisiana State
*Benjamin, Kelvin, Florida State
*Boyd, Christopher, Vanderbilt
Brown, Corey (Philly), Ohio State
Brown, John, Pittsburg State
*Bryant, Martavis, Clemson
Burse, Isaiah, Fresno State
Campanaro, Michael, Wake Forest
*Coleman, Brandon, Rutgers
Colter, Theodis (Kain), Northwestern
*Cooks, Brandin, Oregon State
Copeland, Damian, Louisville
Davis, Michael (Mike) Texas
*Ellington, Bruce, South Carolina
Enunwa, Onochie (Quincy), Nebraska
*Evans, Mikexas A & M
Evans, Shaquelle (Shaq), UCLA
Fowler, Bennie, Michigan State
*Franklin, Austin, New Mexico State
Gallon, Jeremy, Michigan
Grant, Ryan, Tulane
Hazel, Charles (Matt), Coastal Carolina
Herron, Robert, Wyoming
Hoffman, Cody, Brigham Young
Huff, Joshua (Josh), Oregon
Hurns, Allen, Miami
Janis, Jeffrey (Jeff), Saginaw Valley State
Jones, Tailer (T.J.), Notre Dame
*Landry, Jarvis, Louisiana State
*Latimer, Cody, Indiana
*Lee, Marqise, Southern California
Lucas, Marcus, Missouri
Matthews, Jordan, Vanderbilt
*Moncrief, Donte, Mississippi
Norwood, Kevin, Alabama
Powell, Walter (Walt), Murray State
Reesevin, Baylor
*Richardson, Paul, Colorado
*Robinson, Allen, Penn State
Saunders, Jalen, Oklahoma
*Snead, Willie, Ball State
*Stewart, Josh, Oklahoma State
Street, Devin, Pittsburgh
Washington, L'damian, Missouri
* Watkins, Sammy, Clemson
Wilson, Albert, Georgia State

OFFENSIVE LINEMEN
Armstrong, Matthew (Matt), Grand Valley State
Bitonio, Joel, Nevada
*Bodine, Russell, North Carolina
Boffell, Conor, Iowa
Britt, Justin, Missouri
Dozier, Dakota, Furman
Edwards, Kadeemnnessee State
Feiler, Matt, Bloomsburg
*Flemong, Cameron, Stanford
Fulton, Zachery (Zach)nnessee
Groy, Ryan, Wisconsin
Halapio, Jonathan (Jon), Florida
Harrison, Jonotthan, Florida
Henderson, Seantrel, Miami
Hurst, James, North Carolina
Ikard, Gabriel (Gabe), Oklahoma
Jackson, Gabriel, Mississippi State
James, Ja'wuannnessee
Johnson, Wesley, Vanderbilt
*Kouandijo, Cyrus, Alabama
Larsen, Tyler, Utah State
Leno, Charles, Boise State
Lewan, Taylor, Michigan
Linder, Brandon, Miami
Linsley, Corey, Ohio State
Long, Spencer, Nebraska
Lucas, Cornelius (Luke), Kansas State
*Martin, Marcus, Southern California
Martin, Zachary (Zack), Notre Dame
Matthews, Jacob (Jake)xas A & M
Mewhort, Jack, Ohio State
Moses, Morgan, Virginia
Paradis, Matthew (Matt), Boise State
Patchan, Matthew (Matt), Boston College
*Richardson, Antonionnessee
Richardson, Cyril, Baylor
Richburg, Weston, Colorado State
*Robinson, Greg, Auburn
Schofield, Michael, Michigan
Steen, Anthony, Alabama
Stone, Jamesnnessee
Stork, Bryan, Florida State
*Su'a-Filo, Xavier, UCLA
Swanson, Travis, Arkansas
Thomas, Brandon, Clemson
*Turner, Trai, Louisiana State
Turner, William (Billy), North Dakota State
Urschel, John, Penn State
Watt, Christopher (Chris), Notre Dame
*Yankey, David, Stanford

DEFENSIVE LINEMEN
Carrethers, Ryan, Arkansas State
Clarke, William, West Virginia
*Clowney, Jadeveon, South Carolina
*Crichton, Scott, Oregon State
*Ealy, Kony, Missouri
Edeball, Kasim, Boston College
Enemkpall, Kemefuna (I.K.), Louisiana Tech
Ford, Donald (Dee), Auburn
Gayle, Jacon (James), Virginia Tech
Hart, Taylor, Oregon
Jeffcoat, Jacksonxas
*Jernigan, Timmy, Florida State
Jones, Howard, Shepherd
Kerr, Zachariah (Zach), Delaware
*Lawrence, Demarcus, Boise State
*Lynch, Aaron, South Florida
Manumaleuna, Eathyn, Brigham Young
Marsh, Cassius, UCLA
Martin, Kareem, North Carolina
Mauro, Joshua (Josh), Stanford
Mimsvin, South Florida
Moore, Zachary (Zach), Concordia
Newsome, Jonathan, Ball State
*Nix, Louis, Notre Dame
*Pagan, Jeoffrey, Alabama
Ramsey, Kaleb, Boston College
Sam, Michael, Missouri
Smith, Chris, Arkansas
Smith, Marcus, Louisville
Stinson, Edward (Ed), Alabama
*Tuitt, Stephon, Notre Dame
*Uko, George, Southern California
Webster, Larry, Bloomsburg
Westbrooks, Ethan, West Texas A & M

DEFENSIVE TACKLES
Bromley, Jason (Jay), Syracuse
Coleman, Deandre, California
Donald, Aaron, Pittsburgh
Easley, Dominique, Florida
Ellis, Justin, Louisiana Tech
*Ferguson, Ego, Louisiana State
Hageman, Ra'shede, Minnesota
Hyder, Kerryxas Tech
*Johnson, Anthony, Louisiana State
Jones, Daquan, Penn State
Mc Cullers, Daniel (Dan)nnessee
Palepoinny, Utah
Pennel, Michael (Mike), Colorado State - Pueblo
*Quarles, Kelcy, South Carolina
Reid, Caralin, Princeton
Stephen, Shamar, Connecticut
Sutton, William (Will), Arizona State
Thomas, Robert, Arkansas
Thornton, Khyri, Southern Mississippi
Urban, Brent, Virginia
Whaley, Christopher (Chris)xas
Wynn, Kerry, Richmond

LINEBACKERS
Attaochu, Jeremiah (Jerry), Georgia Tech
Barr, Anthony, UCLA
Barrow, Lamin, Louisiana State
Borland, Christopher (Chris), Wisconsin
Bradford, Carl, Arizona State
Brown, Jonathan, Illinois
Brown, Michael (Preston), Louisville
Bullough, Max, Michigan State
*Fortt, Khairi, California
George, Jeremiah, Iowa State
Hitchens, Anthony, Iowa
Hubbard, Adrian, Alabama
Jackson, Andrew (Drew), Western Kentucky
Jones, Christian, Florida State
Kennard, Devon, Southern California
Kirksey, Christian (Chris), Iowa
Lokombo, Boseko, Oregon
Mack, Khalil, Buffalo
Morris, James, Iowa
Mosley, Clinton (C.J.), Alabama
Murphy, Trenton (Trent), Stanford
Pierre-Louis, Kevin, Boston College
*Powell, Ronald, Florida
Reilly, Trevor, Utah
*Shazier, Ryan, Ohio State
Shembo, Prince, Notre Dame
Skov, Shayne, Stanford
*Smallwood, Yawin, Connecticut
Smithlvin, Florida State
Starr, Tyler, South Dakota
Tripp, Jordan (Jordie), Montana
Unga, Devin (Uani'), Brigham Young
Van Noy, Kyle, Brigham Young
Williamson, Avery, Kentucky
Zumwalt, Jordan, UCLA

DEFENSIVE BACKS
Alexander, Maurice (Mo), Utah State
Allen, Ricardo, Purdue
Bailey, Dion, Southern California
Belue, Deion, Alabama
Benwikere, Bene', San Jose State
Berhe, Natneal (Nat), San Diego State
Boston, Jayestin (Tre), North Carolina
*Breeland, Bashaud, Clemson
Brooksrrence, Florida State
Bucannon, Deone, Washington State
Carrie, Travis (T.J.), Ohio
*Clinton-Dix, Ha'sean (Ha Ha), Alabama
Cockrell, Ross, Duke
Colvin, Aaron, Oklahoma
Davis, Christopher (Chris), Auburn
Dennard, Darqueze, Michigan State
Desir, Pierre, Lindenwood
Dixon, Ahmad (A.D.), Baylor
Dixon, Brandon, Northwest Missouri State
*Dowling, Jonathan, Western Kentucky
Exum, Antone, Virginia Tech
Fuller, Kyle, Virginia Tech
Gaines, Edwin (E.J.), Missouri
Gaines, Phillip, Rice
Gilbert, Justin, Oklahoma State
Goodson, Demetri (Meech), Baylor
Hal, Andre (Dre), Vanderbilt
*Hampton, Victor, South Carolina
Huff, Marqueston, Wyoming
Jackson, Bennett, Notre Dame
James, Kendall, Maine
Jean-Baptiste, Stanley (Stan), Nebraska
Johnson, Dontae, North Carolina State
Joyner, Lamarcus, Florida State
Ladler, Kenneth (Kenny), Vanderbilt
Lawson, Nevin (Nevo), Utah State
Lewis, Isaiah, Michigan State
Loston, Craig, Louisiana State
Mc Dougle, Dexter (Dex), Maryland
Mc Gill, Keith, Utah
*Mitchellrrance, Oregon
Price, Jabari, North Carolina
*Pryor, Calvin, Louisville
*Purifoy, Loucheiz, Florida
Reaser, Keith, Florida Atlantic
*Reynolds, Ed, Stanford
Reynolds, Rashaad, Oregon State
*Roberson, Marcus, Florida
*Roby, Bradley, Ohio State
Sorensen, Daniel, Brigham Young
Southward, Dezmen (Dez), Wisconsin
*Sunseri, Vinnie, Alabama
Thomas, Jemea, Georgia Tech
Vereen, Brock, Minnesota
Verrett, Jasonxas Christian
Ward, Jimmie, Northern Illinois
Washington, Todd, Southeastern Louisiana
Watkins, Jaylen, Florida
Westbrooks, Lavelle, Georgia Southern

LONG SNAPPER
Heit, Marcus, Kansas State

PUNTERS
Clark, Steven, Auburn
Hocker, Zachary (Zach), Arkansas
Hornsey, Thomas (Tom), Memphis
Leone, Richard (Richie), Houston
Mandell, Cody, Alabama
O'Donnell, Patrick (Pat), Miami

KICKERS
Boswell, Christopher (Chris), Rice
Fera, Anthonyxas
Santos, Cairo, Tulane
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I highlited some players I'm glad that got the invite.. But they Snubbed my OT from Montana - Danny Kistler... Thought he had a real nice Shrine Game moving up a level.... I hope he goes UDF and makes a roster.

enjoy,

one of the idiots

 

What are the *s for Burgh?

 

I think they are underclassmen.

 

Yep underclassmen and I think I read that there are 80+ of them this year invited.. wow

enjoy,

one of the idiots

 

yeah of the 94 juniors that declared, if 80 of them got invited, then 14 made a DUMB decision. Anyone recall the QB from Ole Miss coming out as a Jr., wasn't even drafted and he did nothing in camp. Probably spraying lawns with True Green chemicals from the back of a pesticide truck these days. *STOP*

 

OFF TOPIC.

How the he11 do you get your margins back on a PC??? This drives me nuts. My tool bars are all "hidden" and I don't remember pressing any keys to switch to that mode. WT.F

 

o Put your cursor up at the top of your screen

o RIGHT click the mouse (that little thingy under your hand)

o Click on MENU BAR. (It should have a checkmark next to it)

 

Is your computer turned on?

Do you have the monitor connected?

Are you finished screaming yet?


BB, What are the bold texted names? Interest?

 

Blackfish,

Just my personal interest and glad they got invited to the combine... mostly smaller school players..

enjoy,

one of the idiots

 

I'm seeing more and more articles that say the Texans will take Bortels or Johnny Futballs. Reports are some teams don't see Bridgewater as a franchise QB. Whatever happens I don't want to see the Browns get Bridgewater.

Bortles reminds me of just a little better version of Christian Ponder coming out of college.

Johnny Futball is going to be fantastic until he gets destroyed trying to run one to many times. His mentality is going to have to change to make it long term. I don't think he's capable of thinking like Russell Wilson.

Bridgewater is mobile enough. He's already been playing in a pro style offense and is an extremely accurate passer. He is a football junkie according to his coach. Lives in the film room. Not the guy I want to see in Cleveland throwing to Josh Gordon. I was a fan of Russell Wilson after watching him in college. Bridgewater reminds me of a little taller version of Wilson. Not quite as strong of an arm but more accurate in the short to mid range areas.

 

New player in @ 15 Calvin Pryor FS Louisville. I like him better than Dix and he might
Also be higher on Colbert's board. Seeing how Colbert attended the Rutgers -Louisville game. People "assumed" it was for Bridgewater. *ROSE* of course that was back when their record had them picking top. 5.

 

Here's my initial QB list:

1. Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville
2. Blake Bortles, UCF
3. Johnny Manziel, TAMU
4. Derek Carr, Fresno State
5. Zach Mettenberger, LSU
6. Jimmy Garoppolo, Eastern Illinois
7. Tajh Boyd, Clemson
8. AJ McCarron, Alabama
9. David Fales, San Jose State
10. Brett Smith, Wyoming
11. Aaron Murray, Georgia
12. Connor Shaw, South Carolina
13. Keith Wenning, Ball State
14. Keith Price, Washington
15. Tom Savage, Pitt
16. Jeff Matthews, Cornell
17. Logan Thomas, Virginia Tech
18. Stephen Morris, Miami
19. Garrett Gilbert, SMU
20. Casey Pachell, TCU

Notable unranked: Bryn Renner, UNC. Jordan Lynch, Northern Illinois, James Franklin, Missouri. Tommy Rees, Notre Dame



I'm working on a much more in depth analysis of them but until it is finished here is a preliminary list.

 

For example:

1. Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville: Looks like the surest bet to be a franchise quarterback out of the entire draft class, however is not on the same caliber as an Andrew Luck in 2012 or Cam Newton in 2011. His arm is very good, however is not the cannon that Newton?s is. He has enough mobility to be good on rollouts and the occasional scramble, however is not as good a runner as Newton or Luck and his 6?2? 205lbs frame will keep him from being a true dual threat QB. This will likely not be a problem, though, as he only rushed the ball 34 times in 2013 compared to 241 rushes in Newton?s final year at Auburn or Robert Griffin?s 138 rushes his senior year at Baylor. Even with his small frame, Bridgewater does not waver in the pocket in the face of pressure and will hang tough to deliver a pass, even while being hit. Despite not having an arm as strong as Newton?s, Bridgewater comes out of college with much more polish. He still has a very good arm and should not have a problem completing the deep pass, as well as very good overall accuracy and is smart with the football. In 2013 he had a 71% completion rate, 3,970 yards, 31 touchdowns and 4 interceptions. What really has helped get his stock up, however, was his performance in his two most recent bowl games. In the 2013 Sugar Bowl he led Louisville over heavy favorite #4 Florida going 20/36 with 226 yards, two touchdowns and one interception against one of college football?s top defenses. In his final game, the 2013 Russell Athletic Bowl against Miami, he dazzled going 35-45 with 447 yards and 4 touchdowns and a 30-9 record.
Projection: Top 10 pick

 

10. Brett Smith, Wyoming

Here's a kid to watch - a combine snub.... Will be intersting to read your analysis of Brett.

Enjoy,

one of the idiots