Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper sucks thread!!

Discussion in 'Pittsburgh Steelers' started by Steelroc74, Mar 24, 2013.

  1. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

    The Pittsburgh Steelers Selected
    Jamie Collins, OLB, Southern Mississippi
     
  2. burghball Guest


    SWEET!! Love the move NY!! great value too as some were wanting him in round 2...

    Super Job

    enjoy,

    bb
     
  3. Steelroc74 Franchise Player Steelers

    Wow he made it to round 3??? No way that happens in the real draft.

    JF is still there too???
     
  4. nybites M.V.P. Steelers UCONN

    Okay rarebreed can switch to decaf now,MOS your guy was on my short list. Beach, I gambled here, I thin Collins has the "twitch" and he is explosive.

    Start throwing names at me for round 4. I'm thinking WR,S, NT, RB
     
  5. nybites M.V.P. Steelers UCONN

    And no way 9-10 CB's come off the board before Matt Barkley, Nassib, Glennon etc..,
     
  6. burghball Guest

    NY,

    I got to see who comes off the board.. I'll start posting some names tomorrow afternoon.... you pick at 8:00pm tomorrow night right?

    TE is another you should think about - especially one... funny he is starting his pro career much like another TE - same injury...

    enjoy,

    bb
     
  7. beachbum M.V.P. Manager Steelers

    Love it! I thought he was gone and passed right over him! Great value!

    For the rest...

    STRENGTHS: Muscular, athletic-looking frame with powerful hands and long arms. Accelerates well in a straight line, and exhibits good flexibility, both coming off the edge as a rusher, as well as when changing direction in space. Displays a knack for getting to the quarterback off the edge, with impressive natural power on contact, and ability to disengage when he uses his hands effectively. Flashes a strong, sudden closing burst in space. Appears natural and comfortable in his lower half when asked to drop into zone coverage. When he gets his arms extended at the point of attack, can really manhandle his blocker. Doesn't possess a ton of short-area burst when breaking down to make tackles in space, but uses length nicely to compensate.

    WEAKNESSES: Motor appears to waffle at times. Explosiveness and fluidity appear to be there for brief moments, but other times he looks heavy-footed and sloppy in space. First step isn't elite. Is much more athletic than instinctive at this point. Isn't a high-intensity, fly-to-the-football defender, despite possessing some dynamic physical tools that indicate he's capable of covering more ground. Tends to tackle with his shoulder too frequently rather than wrapping up, and will take on blockers with his chest or shoulders far too often. Will reduce speed and exhibits loose legs when flipping his hips from a backpedal in man-coverage. Awareness in zone coverage waivers, as he tends to freeze in space and lose track of what's going on behind him.

    COMPARES TO: K.J. Wright, OLB, Seattle Seahawks - Like Wright, Collins possesses a unique combination of speed, fluidity and flexibility for his size. However, when Wright came out of Mississippi State, he displayed better all-around instincts and motor than what we've seen out of Collins, who is probably the more gifted athlete. Right now, Collins looks like a developmental project with starting-caliber potential if the fundamentals and instincts can improve.


    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pgo4xXFTA84[/video]
     
  8. beachbum M.V.P. Manager Steelers

    Guy definitely finds the ball. Didn't like his motor on a couple of plays but in a game where the the opposition puts up 42 points I think fatigue definitely plays a factor. I don't agree with the analysis about questioning his intstincts. It's just one game but other than the double reverse he showed good contain responsibility and found the ball well.
     
  9. rarebreedsj Franchise Player Steelers

    Awesome job ny.
     
  10. burghball Guest

    If we happened to draft J.C. for real - we got to hope Whirlpool and Woodley can stay healthy - let him sit watch - listen - learn.. Kid has the tools.

    enjoy,

    bb
     
  11. burghball Guest

    By the way... I'm trying to hit the thumbs up buttom for all posts in this thread - I think that;s the way NY had us doing it on the "site that shall not be named"... Not sure what it buys ya - a hair cut and a pound of lunch meat.. AND

    I'll even thumbs up Manook if he finds his way in here....

    enjoy,

    bb
     
  12. Great job nyb. Nice draft so far!
     
  13. nybites M.V.P. Steelers UCONN

    Yep 8 pm. Copy that, agreed on TK, also liking another small school
    Kid. And forget CB, not anytime soon, 2 big runs and DL and QB got overlooked, JMFO
     
  14. Ravens2k Franchise Player Ravens

    You always take things personally, thats exactly what i was attempting to prevent. I didnt bash you, I even said i hadnt put in the same effort and yet you make the same dismissive comment. And i didnt remotely act like you dont listen. I saw a mock, and i questioned it. That is all.

    good day ill just leave my comment at that as its too late.

    always a pleasure to read this thread.

    2k
     
  15. Steelroc74 Franchise Player Steelers

    Don't like that Gratz is already gone, didn't figure he'd go until round 4.
     
  16. MaineofSteel Franchise Player Steelers

    You know who I wanr bites ... if you think he's BPA and of most value .... WR from WVU

    By the by NY, SMURPH thought a lot of him too... and he's a confident source. Good luck pal


    MoS
     
  17. JJ Wilcox, Eric Reid, Shawn Williams, Duke Williams, Stedman Bailey, Mike Gisellie, Travis Kelci. Have to look at safety
     
  18. nybites M.V.P. Steelers UCONN

    Not realistic those posters taking CB that early and depleting the pool. Lots of talent in other positions being left behind because of the Frenzy. In 2008 3 RB came off the board in succession , then no
    RB again for 20 picks, that's the norm.
     
  19. Steelroc74 Franchise Player Steelers

    Eric Reid was picked in round 2 by packers.
     
  20. Steelroc74 Franchise Player Steelers


    That's why these mocks are unrealistic, they're just an excersize and too many people don't know what they're doing.
     

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