Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper sucks thread!!

Discussion in 'Pittsburgh Steelers' started by Steelroc74, Mar 24, 2013.

  1. StlCrtn Franchise Player Steelers

    I like 106. Adds depth. Good value in the 5th
     
  2. beachbum M.V.P. Manager Steelers

    Dysert is absolutely awful. I'll be surprised if he's drafted. Bray was not on the Steelers board because of character IMO.
     
  3. RTTRUTH Legend Manager Colts

    I grant you Jenkins, that one was bad. But Aldon Smith, Mayock and co. said "Wow" when they took him seventh. He was first round for sure, but they said simply he was so raw (ala Ansah this year maybe) that he was a shock in the top 10. Either way, whether I play up the angle of calling the braintrust "smart" (which frustrates you), or I play up the angle of calling Jim Harbaugh a top 5 coach (current), I'm right somewhere.

    Oh, and I agree on Mays. That was terrible, knew it when they did it. No surprise he's busted. He was fast, that was it.
     
  4. nybites M.V.P. Steelers UCONN

    106, 122, 126 look good
     
  5. beachbum M.V.P. Manager Steelers

    Harbaugh the coach? Top 5 I agree. Just wish people would remember all the picks - that's really all I'm saying.

    Can't say I know much about Terry Hawthorne.
     
  6. Terry Hawthorne
     
  7. StlCrtn Franchise Player Steelers

    Uggh. Would of much rather of gotten Poyer.
     
  8. nybites M.V.P. Steelers UCONN

    back to the draft Mays sucked and CARPENTER WAS A REACH LETS MOVE ON
     
  9. RTTRUTH Legend Manager Colts

    PFW basically says flash player with some potential, needs supervision and a patient DB coach. Has some size and ball skills. From watching tape, I don't think he'll amount to much.
     
  10. nybites M.V.P. Steelers UCONN

    OK ROUND 5 SUCKS MOOSE ASS NOW
     

  11. Agreed. I'll give it a B because it fills a need and got a guy in this range. Good but nothing special.
     
  12. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

    I honestly like Hawthorne.


    And interesting with the Bucs taking Steven Means.
     
  13. nybites M.V.P. Steelers UCONN

    HAWTHORNE IS NOT PHYSICAL ENOUGH I liked Poyer oh well
     
  14. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

    Falcons traded up for Stansly Maponga
     
  15. burghball Guest

    I like this pick too.. I mentioned on here a while back as a player to watch and was moving up.. I think folks will be surprised with Hawthorne..

    enjoy,

    bb
     
  16. beachbum M.V.P. Manager Steelers

    Anyone in here actually watch any tape on Hawthorne?
     
  17. Looks a lot like Ike. Big and physical but better hands
     
  18. Fot Guest

    No but I will watch the youtube video you are surely to post :)
     
  19. nybites M.V.P. Steelers UCONN

    BTW Oday Aboushi was one of the worst OL prospects I watched! THE JETS CONTINUE TO SUCK SUCK SUCK
     
  20. beachbum M.V.P. Manager Steelers

    Here's some bio:

    Name: Terry Hawthorne (+) Coming off 10-06-12 Concussion
    College: Illinois Number: 1
    Height: 6-0 Weight: 195
    Position: CB Pos2: KR Class/Draft Year: Sr/2013
    40 Low: 4.29 40 Time: 4.31 40 High: 4.45
    Projected Round: 5-6 High: 3rd-4th Low: 6th-7th Stock:
    Rated number 21 out of 218 CB's 177 / 2444 TOTAL

    ANALYSIS

    STRENGTHS: Good height and frame for the position. Excellent athlete with more than enough speed for the position. Fluid footwork and smooth hip action to quickly change directions. Nice job reading and reacting in a flash to jump routes and make a play on the ball.

    Rangy with the make-up speed to recover and close. Physical in run support and doesn't shy from contact. Aggressive competitor and doesn't back down from a challenge. Versatile and a quick learner. Some experience as a return man on special teams.

    WEAKNESSES: Lanky frame with average bulk for the position and needs to get stronger. Transitional technique needs refinement and needs to do more at the line of scrimmage to reroute receivers. Susceptible to fakes and too easily bites in coverage, needing to show better discipline.

    Too much contact downfield and needs to show better finesse and timing. Too easily blocked on the outside and lost contain. Only average ballskills and won't always finish the interception. Strong durability concerns with a history of bumps and bruises, including a serious concussion in 2012.

    OVERVIEW

    A four-star recruit as a wide receiver and cornerback, Hawthorne saw reps on offense but mostly resided on defense for the Illini.

    He didn't have quite the senior season many expected, but his draft stock began to be on the upswing following a strong showing at the Senior Bowl. He showed a fluid backpedal and swivel hips while staying low in his transition, something that isn't easy for most cornerbacks over six-feet tall. Hawthorne has the footwork to quickly adjust and flashed the physical nature needed to play the position at the next level

    An Illinois-native, Hawthorne was a four-star CB/WR recruit out of a high school, choosing the Illini over Oklahoma, Missouri and a host of other scholarship offers.

    He moved full-time to defense as a true freshman in 2009 (five starts) and recorded 30 tackles and his first interception, which he also returned for a score. Hawthorne battled an injury as a sophomore and made only one start, but returned = as a junior and started 11 games at cornerback, finishing with 60 tackles, 5.0 tackles for loss, eight pass break-ups and a team-best three interceptions (one returned for a touchdown in the bowl game).

    Hawthorne earned honorable mention All-Big Ten honors in 2012 after leading the team with seven passes defended. He ended with 23 for his career, eighth in UI history.

    Hawthorne doesn't have great size, but his speed and ballhawking ability is top-shelf, flashing the awareness and natural feel teams seek in defensive backs. In April, former Illinois' defensive back Tavon Wilson was a surprise second round pick by the New England Patriots. And just like Wilson, Hawthorne isn't a well-known name, but don't be shocked when he's an early round draft pick.
     

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