Playoffs

Discussion in 'Chicago Bears' started by blang84, Jan 14, 2018.

  1. SPress Franchise Player Manager

    Alshon Jeffery meet the New England Patriots defense.
     
  2. dlinebass5 M.V.P. Bears

    I love Patriots fans.
    "We barely escaped fucking Jacksonville thanks to some serious ref intervention, and had our defense run over by Blake fucking Bortles. But yeah, we'll totally take down a team that legitimately blew out one of the best in the country!".

    I'm fine with the Patriots. Belichick and that organization deserve whatever they get. But between Brady and the fans, I can't decide who are the bigger spoiled children.
     
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  3. blang84 Legend Bears

    Pats fans are the most spoiled, ungrateful, undeserving fans in sports.

    But Brady? He's 40 fucking years old and he's playing in his 8th Super Bowl. He's earned everything that's come to him. Best ever.
     
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  4. Al in Cal Guest

    I hate everything about the Patriots. I hate Belicheat. That being said, the Eagles don't have a chance in that game.I won't even watch it.
     
  5. dlinebass5 M.V.P. Bears

    Brady is an absolute child. Any time another player shouts, throws fits, etc. the way he does, they get called out on it, earn a label as being a "problem player", and are told to grow up. Brady? "He's a competitor".

    Brady pushes dangerously false and unfounded medical and personal advice.

    I've got more, but I don't feel like making the case, right now. It's early in the AM, and it's not necessary. Brady's a petulant child, and so are the fanbase. They complement each other well.
     
  6. bigrobo876 Franchise Player Bears

    Brady wasn’t always as vocal as he is now. He grew into the roll as he moved up in the league. He has earned the right to throw fits and yell at his teammates because he has rings, lots of them, to back up his talk. He has put the team on his back multiple times and delivered...multiple times. Any fan who wouldn’t want a Tom Brady on their team is a liar and just jealous.

    I think calling the TB12 system dangerous is a bit of a stretch. From what I read the biggest issue is proving that anybody can have success with it.

    Look, anytime a team in any sport has prolonged success it gets tired and annoying. I live in NY and have to deal with Yankee fans. I get it. The fan base gets spoiled. And grows with all the front runners. Are you a Bulls fan? If you are you should know what it is like to be on the other side.
     
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  7. blang84 Legend Bears

    Always loved his on-field demeanor. Sometimes I wished some of our Bears QBs had shown that passion win or lose.

    Yeah he believes in some weird shit, not backed up by medical science. But he's in incredible condition for someone his age with that mileage. Whatever he's doing obviously works for him. Anyone dumb enough to buy all the crap that he pushes in his TB12 literature is just... dumb. No need to worry concern myself with their gullibility or ignorance.
     
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  8. patg006 M.V.P. Bears

    Pretty much this right here.
     
  9. EvertonBears M.V.P. Bears

    Al in Cal said:

    That being said, the Eagles don't have a chance in that game.I won't even watch it.


    Pretty much this right here.

    Yeah neither did the Jags boys....

    They probably win that game if the refs don't screw them on the Jack fumble recovery.
     
  10. Al in Cal Guest

    I just think that the Patriots sold their souls to the devil. Just take a look at all of the penalties they called on the Eagles versus I think one called on the Pats. The Pats are never out of any game they play. Look at last years Super Bowl:(
     
  11. babyfan Legend Patreon Platinum Bears Babyfan's P.C. Yoga

    Hey blang (or anyone) what is this TB12 literature?
     
  12. blang84 Legend Bears

    It's Tom Brady's self-promoted lifestyle brand in which he discloses his fitness, dietary, health and lifestyle habits which he believes have given him the success he has. A lot of it is junk science or pseudo-medicine with none of the proven benefits that he claims.
     
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  13. babyfan Legend Patreon Platinum Bears Babyfan's P.C. Yoga

    Thanks blang :)
    Is the problem that he hasn't made enough money during his career? (That was sarcasm) Seriously the fitness industry doesn't need more of this ...
     
  14. bigrobo876 Franchise Player Bears

    IMO what makes the Patriots so good is that they mentally fuck their opponents before they even step on the field. Look at their recent success. It wasn’t the Patriots dominating it was the patriots taking advantage when their opponents choked under pressure.

    It’s like when teams have the advantage over the Patriots they don’t know how to handle it. They overthink it and fuck up.

    Look at the hole penalty thing. You can bet your ass that Bill stresses no penalties. So when the other team commits a normal amount in a game it looks unfair. You know it’s in the opponents head that they are at a disadvantage. When really the Pats are just more disciplined.
     
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  15. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    A lot of what Brady advocates is actually good....if you're an active person that plans on working out routinely. Ample water...snacking throughout the day to keep your energy up....nutrient dense shakes....and a lot of alkalizing foods. That's all good. The amount of protein he is ingesting should only be done by a highly active person.

    Obviously there's the push of the TB12 snacks and protein powders and whatever and the science behind it isn't really science...but the diet and exercise he advocates is actually very healthy.
     
  16. EvertonBears M.V.P. Bears

    There may well be times when this is the case, but if you're talking specifically about this Jags game and the Flacons in the last SB, then I don't agree at all. There were two sets of fuck ups, and the Patriots were the opponents both times yes, but you're giving them undue credit here imo.

    The Patriots beat the Falcons most of all because Kyle Shanahan made it about himself and fucked up royally. Full credit to the Pats for controlling what they were able to control and winning. But any OC who plays the situation properly after that completion to Julio, in all likelihood, gets his team the win. Shanahan didn't make those playcalls because he was playing the Patriots, he made them because of his own mental makeup. He would've made those same calls against any other team too.

    As for the Jags, it was blindingly obvious in the 4thQ of that game that one team had been in that situation a LOT and one team had been in it never. The Jags got tight at the end, the Pats went all out for the win. But the Jags didn't get tight cos it was the Patriots, they got tight cos of the situation. It was a HUGE situation and it got to them. They hoped the win would fall to them rather than trying to take it. Actually if the Jags did have the Patriots in their heads it would've prob been a good thing cos they'd have known they had to keep playing! The Patriots don't give you the win, ever.

    Additional things as well like the Jags taking a crucial delay of game penalty right after a timeout, zero to do with the Patriots in any way.

    NOW, where I give the Patriots a lot of credit was their approach. They played it perfectly at the end and looked every bit the composed team that had been in a conference game a hundred times. And I'm not even talking about on Offense actually as much as on Defense. Pretty much the entire last 3 Jags possessions the Pats went all out on D. They played man, they stacked the box, they dared the Jags to trust Bortles to win the game. It was absolutely the right move, and it seems simple now in hindsight. But at the time, very brave, cos if the Jags broke one big play the game was probably over.


    Errr, not sure about this. You give the Pats credit for so few penalties, you should prob be crediting the refs. I saw them calling that game very differently at times.

    The penalties on the Jags secondary I thought were fine. Ramsay's was obvious. Bouye's deep PI personally I thought was the right call, but it was close. Sometimes if refs wanna let them play they'll let that slide. But the key here is Bouye's penalty happened in the 1st Q, so now the pattern is set. If you wanna call that stuff as a crew fine, but be consistent. Except they weren't. The Patriots secondary played physical all game and got away with a LOT stuff that if you wanted to be ticky tack, you could've easily called. Marcedes Lewis could've drawn two flags, and there were others as well. One of the ones on Lewis I remember was on a 3rd down with like 5-6mins left and the Jags leading. That should've been a fresh set of downs near midfield with not a ton of time on the clock. Doesn't mean the Pats would def lose, but it would've shifted the probabilities.

    But again, that play has nothing to do with being in the Jags heads, if anyone's heads should be questioned its the ref's.

    I don't go in for conspiracy theories much. The ref's weren't paid off. But, at a subconscious level were people influenced to unknown degrees by the rep of the Patriots? I don't know. But there have been studies into the numbers surrounding this kind of thing in the past, including one in soccer once which showed in hard numbers that "bigger" teams got awarded more penalties over the course of a season than mid-lower level teams AND had fewer penalties given against them when at home. Was it conclusive? No. Was it suggestive? For sure.

    The Jack fumble has been covered. It was a big call that went the Patriots way. But it wasn't the only one, a lot of judgement calls went their way. Why, who knows. But it was the ref's making those calls, it wasn't down to the Jags as you suggest.
     
  17. blang84 Legend Bears

    Ample water is great. But 300 ounces per day is excessive and has not been proven to make one healthier or recover better than say 100 ounces a day (roughly the medically recommended amount). It also doesn't protect you from sunburn, as he claims. It's stuff like that that destroys his credibility, even though he does have an extremely healthy lifestyle/diet.

    He's right about pliability and avoiding weights. And I agree with him about eliminating or at least reducing salt/sugar in one's diet. A lot of his advice is great, a lot of it is complete crap.

    The Jags got tight way before the end. They took a knee with 50 seconds left and two timeouts right before halftime, when they were moving the ball all half and have a solid kicker. I heard a stat they were the first team in that specific situation this season (50+ seconds left with 2 or more TOs) to take a knee. That's called playing not to lose. And we all know what happens next.
     
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  18. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    Forgot this was in there. F'n laughable.
     
  19. EvertonBears M.V.P. Bears

    There's a thread on the main board about this. But nah, the two were different. They picked their battles before halftime and they were smart to. The momentum had shifted in the Patriots favour and the Jags hardly have a classical 2min drive type of Offense. Plus they had the lead knowing they'd get the ball next. Maybe you give Fournette a draw and see what he does, but if they'd put it in Bortles hands and gone for it there was as much chance of something bad happening as the Jags actually scoring points.

    The Jags couldn't afford to have a turnover and possible Pats TD to take the lead right before the half. That's how little margin for error they had in that game.
     
  20. Jeanquev Legend Steelers

    You can always try a joe flacco throw it deep and hope for a PI call. They played not to loose and as often happens when you do so you loose.
     

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