Gee....I don't know. Maybe all these college players could play real games against other college players. And these games were recorded and televised and there was game film of them. I might be on to something....I'm gonna call the NCAA...
He did nail it. So I amend my original comment to be televising and talking too much about the combine is overrated, silly, pointless, and annoying.
that's a lot of film on a lot of players vs good teams and bad. Even Alabama plays shitty easy win teams. All schools do it. No one schedules 11 or 12 hard games a year. Every school needs a laugher or two.
Is it easier to see what a player can do in a real game or running on a field in spandex shorts and no pads against no one?
i think they use game films, interviews, combine skill set times etc to scout the player for their franchise.
I think what BWW is getting at, Cat, is what's a better determinant of a football player's ability: how he performed on the field against his peers, or how high he jumped without wearing pads?
axe-i get what he's saying. i do. he thinks the whole thing is silly, etc, well the NFL and it's teams doesn't or else why would they continue to have it ? they see some or a lot of value in the combine to bww's dismay.
don't be a smartass. i think the NFL teams use every resource possible that's all. you don't think the combine has any value. they don't see it that way. they are the NFL, not you.
Not entirely, Cat. The combine serves a useful purpose. But, like BWW, I personally dont see the need to hype it up as much as it is.
lyman, the NFL is the hype machine. it's the off-season. need any ratings it can get, so lets hype the combine. lets hype the draft and televise it. need to pull in those tv dollars somehow. this is one of those areas. and do we need the college kids recruitment of picking colleges televised? NO! Another unneeded tv segment.
I’ve seen the errors of my ways cat. It has value. You happy? Were you this anal and annoyingly literal back when you drank?
I agree the interviews of the sheer number of guys in one place is what makes the combine worth attending, imho. The numbers are just numbers, they could download them the next day to confirm what they see on film, or help them to look at another guy more closely, but that one on one time they get is priceless. I also agree, the medical confirmations, and sometimes revelations, are almost as important.
well im better off now than before. i will live a lot longer now to annoy you versus if i still drank. sucks for you. i wouldn't have much longer left if i drank so i quit to be a burr in your sides! anal ? you're the one who calls the combine silly and pointless. how am i the anal one, because i challenge your authority about it ? now if you would've said "goodell is an overpaid oaf," i would agree with you. im just surprised, not anally surprised, over your stance on the combine. again i see your stance as annoying as the combine has been around a long time. it's not a new concept to hate upon, yet here you are. we disagree as we always do, nothing anally surprising or annoying there. you're like my mean older brother who makes a mountain out of every conversation and has to be right and takes the other side of a argument on purpose just to refute the other side. and i never drank and posted, so i was still a sober posted and annoying then as well!
bww-mentioned the pro days. i think the combine also lets all the teams look at the same players at the same time versus bringing them all in for a workout at their facility. saves time and money that way. not every player is brought in for a pro day, so the combine lets all teams see the players up close and live.
Combine's been around for 35 years or so. It didn't get anywhere NEAR the hype back then that it does now. Matter of fact, it got next to none. So what's changed? Are the tests they conduct that much different and interesting? Or is it that the public has that much less of a life that they need to cling to how fast a D-lineman did a shuttle drill?
like i said - it's the off-season so they need tv dollars somehow. same with the NFL Draft. It's a big party and has been for a while. Did fans even show up for the draft in the 70's and 80's ?
They "need" TV dollars...or they know suckers will buy into the hype that seeing a guy measured in bare feet is as important as how he played against Clemson?