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Discussion in 'NFL General Discussion' started by Campbell, Nov 20, 2016.

  1. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    If I remember right, Cat was pretty hard on Wentz all last year.
     
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  2. AxeMurderer Legend Cowboys

    I'm not mad, Cat. Again - I'm asking for consistency. Are you willing to cast that same eye on YOUR QB as you are on mine? I notice you ignored my question. No worries - let's just skip it.
     
  3. AxeMurderer Legend Cowboys

    If so, fair enough. That's what I was driving at - was he as hard on Wentz as he is now on Dak.
     
  4. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    I'm just going off of memory so don't hold my head under water if I'm wrong but, if I'm remembering correctly, Cat was pretty hard on Wentz even when he played well.
     
  5. Catfish Guest

    all i said was he doesn't look the same without zeke or some other key cowboys. does his play or their record state otherwise ? that's not being hard at all Axe. it's being realistic ! being "hard" on Dak would be "yeah he really sucks at a QB and looks like a stiff." that's being hard on him.
     
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  6. Catfish Guest

    i did answer it Axe. look above on the LONG POST.
     
  7. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    In Dak Prescott‘s last three games he has thrown zero touchdown passes and five interceptions, he has failed to pass for 200 yards, the Cowboys have failed to score 10 points, and the team is 0-3. Prescott can hardly believe it.

    “It’s frustrating, it’s shocking,” Prescott said. “You look around and you see the Pro Bowlers and the talent that you have, it’s almost lost at words for why it’s happening. But it just shows you this game’s tough.”

    Prescott doesn’t want to blame anyone in particular for the Cowboys’ struggles, although he did say that criticisms of the coaching staff are off base.

    “Look into it deeper,” Prescott said. “You must not know much if you just point fingers at the coaching staff or point fingers at anybody, really. Then you don’t know enough. Just look into it more.”

    Ezekiel Elliott‘s suspension and Tryon Smith’s injury are two obvious reasons for the Cowboys’ struggles, but whatever other issues they have, they’re running out of time to get them fixed. (PFT)
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    My 2 cents...

    Is Dak a bad QB? No. He cant be simply based on his track record. Dak is just down right now and so is the entire Dallas team, not 1 player should be singled out.

    I think with Zeke in the lineup it balanced the offense in a way that it kept the defenses honest and gave them more to have to plan for... things got a whole lot easier for defenses once Zeke was ruled out.

    A sub-par run game and shoty defensive play have really hurt the Cowboys. Dak is being forced to do more than what really should have been expected. When Zeke is back and the team is healthy there's no doubt in my mind the Cowboys will be just fine.

    I just disagree with the statement that Dak is a bad QB... in a nutshell its a team thing. Management seems to be losing a grip on things too, from Jones on down. A lot of success on a team is from attitude to, in my opinion a team must not only be talented, but they should believe in themselves and be on the same page.
     
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  8. gidion72 Legend Steelers

    I'm the one that suggested that Dallas might want to draft a QB next year. Good QBs overcome missing a player like Zeke, not regress into one of the lowest rated QBS in the league.
     
  9. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    I think that's true to a point, Gid, but how do you explain the difference in the team when Zeke is in the lineup?
     
  10. gidion72 Legend Steelers

    Zeke is a very good RB. If he was playing right now the Cowboys would be challenging the Eagles in the NFCE. I don't think they would beat out the Eagles , but make it interesting. Dak is either suffering a sophomore slump or he needs Zeke to play worth a crap. If I was the coach I would seriously consider drafting another QB in the first Rd next year.
     
  11. gidion72 Legend Steelers

    Tim, I'm getting an error saying I don't have permission to like the post that rr#4 just wrote.
     
  12. ravens_R_#1 Legend Ravens

    Gidion, that's my mistake. I meant to put it in the news thread, and when I realized this wasn't it, I deleted it and put it over there
     
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  13. Catfish Guest

    yeah but zeke did play a lot of the games this year and they lost them. challenge the eagles who are 10-1? zeke missed the last 2-3 games for his suspension. he played the other games and the team lost. i don't think they showed in the first 2 months of the season with zeke, they were the same team as last year and could hold the same record as the eagles, who were pulling away from the other East teams pretty early.
     
  14. Catfish Guest

    what is the record with zeke in the lineup this year vs when he sat out for a suspension ? didn't they lose games with zeke in the lineup?
     
  15. gidion72 Legend Steelers

    I don't think they would have won the NFCE, just held back the clinching of it by the Eagles until the 15th week of the season. I believe the Eagles have already sealed up the NFCE. Or will next week.
     
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  16. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    They wer 5-3, riding a 3 game win streak when the suspension kicked in.
     
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  17. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

    I haven't gone there in months and don't really plan to post but I'd still like access.
     
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  18. AxeMurderer Legend Cowboys

    Outside of the Politics forum, this is some of the silliest stuff I ever read. By that logic, the Steelers should have been looking for a QB in the first round after the 2006 season.
     
  19. firehalo Guest

    The sample comparisons aren't similar, especially considering Big Ben had just recently won a SB. If Dak had won the Super Bowl last year, would Gid have the same opinion? Also, I think what Dak Prescott accomplished last season, he has already proven that he is a legitimate starting NFL QB.
     
  20. AxeMurderer Legend Cowboys

    Oh, I think there are some definite similarities. Two QBs who had a certain level of success very early, then decided struggles. Hell, Roethlisberger's drop was even more severe: 4-7 record through 11 games, 14 TDs, 20 INTs. This after a Super Bowl win.
     

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