NFL - Random Opinions

I was just pointing out some facts Joe and not trying to be homerish. Tuitt has said here in Pittsburgh that game sticks out in his mind. I was just bringing up points of why the Steelers should win. I think Moore is a good backup, better than most. I think the Dolphins are screwed in the secondary (injuries). I would guess that after looking at a lot of the stats, the Steelers should win, not that they will definitely win.........

 

As much as we play in BFs Pick Em game, I think we both know about that old saying? "On any given Sunday", you never know........

 

What's amazing to me is just how different the Steelers are at home vs. on the road. They should take care of business against Miami; after that, though, they'll have to win two straight road games. They have done that this year (twice, in fact), but none of those teams had a winning record.

 

Actually if the Steelers and Texans met in the AFC Championship, Pittsburgh would host that game...BIG IF

 

Or the Raiders, for that matter. But neither the Texans nor the Raiders are going to come close to knocking off the Patriots - not with Osweiler and Cook.

 

come on igloo. we all know you're a homer.

thank God Mario Lemiuex didnt play football.

 

Too bad for the Raiders. This is why a QB is so important. You can go from a Super bowl favourite to a lame duck. Forget BPA Browns. Take your guy at QB at #1.

 

Sorry Joe, you don't waste the #1 O/A pick on 2nd round talent.

 

The Browns keep trying to get the QB when it's more valuable. Not everyone can get a Carr or Wilson or keep hoping for one. All that's happened so far is that all the premier talent that was drafted in lieu of a QB has left or is pretty much useless. Now I wouldn't say 2nd round talent but to follow the thinking of lower value, if the Browns want to wait until #12 then their 1st, 2nd and even 3rd option could be gone. Then if they still draft one they'll take a lower value one in the 2nd or 3rd and be lauded over getting a QB and BPA in the 1st but then unless they get lucky(yes you need to get lucky in the 1st but it's about odds) then that QB won't be good and they'll have to wate another year and its another year that their gooe players get older or walk away. It's happened to many teams, it's just that to teams value has failed on, that they end up getting someone earlier eventually. The Bills and Jets are in similar situations but they didn't have to build as many positions at once and have had some success with bad QBs, but not to get over the hump except when Sanchez was in New York to be pretty for the defense.

Many people will continue to disagree and it seems to happen every offseason. You'll keep waiting for that one season where you hit on value or have the #1 pick on a "obvious #1 QB year". Then it will just be confirmation bias. You probably already could have had a QB you'd be proud of and building a team around him through the draft and with free agents that actually want to stay and be less likely to lose guys as well.

 

Joe,

You are assuming there are QB' in this draft worth a shit. This just in . . . There aren't.

So, if the Browns draft one in the first round and he busts (which he will), you and your cronies will simply say, "same old Browns, can't recognize QB talent and still reach for one. When will they ever learn?"

 

Problem with your theory:

Recent QB classes(last ten years), Round 1 QBs and best of each class:

2016: Jared Goff, Carson Wentz, Paxton Lynch...Best, way too early to call this, but none helped their teams to the playoffs...or even came close to the playoffs...in year one...Oh wait...yes there was...that would be 4th rounder(8th QB taken) Dak Prescott..He has DEFINITELY been, by far the best QB of this and the last 4 draft classes.
2015: Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota...Best #1/#2 overall QB picks this decade, by a large margin.
2014: Blake Bortles, Johnny Manziel, Teddy Bridgewater...Best in class, still early to anoint, but Derreck Carr (2nd round) has taken the lead by a rather large margin.
2013 EJ Manuel...Best in class...wow, I'm at a loss for words, none worthy
2012: Andrew Luck, RGIII, Ryan Tannehill, Brandon Weeden...Best QB..well duh, we all knew a year in advance who the best QB in this class would be...Oh wait...the chosen one(my favorite QB in 2 decades by the way) isn't the best, that would currently go to THIRD round(7th QB chosen) QB Ryan Wilson, and really 4th rounder Kirk Cousins might even be second...even though he was the second QB drafted BY HIS TEAM in this draft.
2011: Cam Newton, Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder...Best QB, this is actually tougher than you would think..Cam is the obvious choice, but Andy Dalton(2nd round 5th QB chosen) has actually been more successful In both wins and QB stats.
2010: Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow...Best QB Sam Bradford (on his 3rd team in 6 seasons, still not best QB on his team)
2009: Matt Stafford, Mark Sanchez, Josh Freeman, best QB taken #1 overall
2008: Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco...Best QB in the class Matt Ryan chosen #3 overall
2007: JaMarcus Russell, Brady Quinn...Not a single QB in this class was starter worthy, not one. Best QB in this class Kevin Kolb, 3rd QB chosen


I think the moral of this story is, don't take a QB, just for the sake of taking one...Build a team that can handle a QB, don't try to make a QB build a team...It RARELY succeeds.

This draft class doesn't have a day one game changer. None of us know if one of these guys will develop, but none cry out #1 overall draft pick...or first rounder for that matter. I am sure that 1 or 4 will be drafted in the first round, but I for one hope that the Browns are one of those teams that get so desperate they choose not to take better talent, simply because they are desperate for a QB. I'm not sure any of these guys could perform as well as Cody Kessler did in 2016, on a very young, talent starved Browns team.

 

Random Opinion - Adrian Peterson will become a Dallas Cowboy.

 

Will, why? With Elliott at the helm, why need AP to give EE a rest? A dual RB offense? Will EE be ok with that?

I can't imagine Dallas getting anymore fire power than they already have! AP would lead to disaster for the rest of the NFC East!

 

I just think Jones and Peterson have a thing for one another and a 1 2 punch like that would certainly give a defense fits. Too much talk between AP and JJ, where there's smoke there's fire.

AP can catch a ball from the backfield also which would be a very dangerous threat/weapon for Dak.

Anyway, just a random opinion... very random.

 

I find Will's logic (& instincts) compelling. I think AP will play his home games in TX. Probably Dallas.

They would then be murderous, not only to the NFCE, Cat, but to the entire NFC.

 

very true. im dreading this now. ugh.

 

The vikings Want him back and he is apparently intrigued by the Raiders.

 

I don't understand the AP-to-Dallas thing even a little bit. So....AP would be happy with 5-7 carries a game???

 

maybe out of the backward to catch balls from dak? or fake to one and hand-off to the other? i dunno. still the possibilities if he goes to big D are endless. still bad for the NFC if he does.

 

Given that AP has already made his bones in the NFL (along with a shit load of money) and his age . . . he would have a chance at a ring in Dallas without taking that big of a beating. I can see where he might be happy with a decent contract and a ring for 5-7 carries a game in his home state.