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  1. AxeMurderer Legend Cowboys

    Only thing I can think in that instance is they thought it would help "sell" run. But I still dislike it - gotta have your best players on the field in that situation.
     
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  2. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    I will never in my life agree with that Seahawks playcall. That was as bad as bad can be.

    I love the rub because if you practice it all the time and run it well....it can be indefensible. And at the goal line where you really only need a half inch of space to get the ball across the plane....it's gonna be all you need sometimes.
     
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  3. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    I kind of agree and disagree because the crossing route that I like is the one that sets receivers crossing in front of, crossing behind, or stacked one over and one under the linebackers. Unless the players in coverage are extremely disciplined there will be gaps created for one or the other, regardless of zone or man coverage. It's in essence a rub or pick when they are on the same level but it also gives some room for the receivers to develop their open lane.

    On the quick pick/rub the timing has to be exact and the defense has to be unaware of what is coming or else they can close the route with the press at the line. In fact, if I were trying to snuff that out I would have the additional LB or DB line up directly over one of the receivers and peel directly into the path of the other just to bust up the timing.

    On the flip side, I would try to work that pick play off of motion with a receiver or a back coming across the line in front of the quarterback (shotgun) and cut under a releasing tight end or slot receiver that is setting the pick. When you're looking at two receivers set to the outside running that play there is the added time for the ball to reach it's point, the fact that most receivers are poor in space blocking without the motion to help identify and get the coverage on moving heels it gives the defense more of a chance to settle into defending it.

    That pretty much circles back to my original thoughts on running play-action on the earlier downs in that 4 down sequence at the goal line. Give me a chance to at least sell play-action and utilize motion to create additional space.

    I hate having a quarterback just set back and throw darts at a predetermined spot before the play/route fully develops, especially when it is dependent on other players doing exactly what I need for the intended target to come open.
     
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  4. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    Was that when Adams was dealing with the foot injury?
     
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  5. Underdog Franchise Player Patriots

    Nope
     
  6. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    It was.
     
  7. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    I don't disagree with your logic at all.

    The only thing I don't like about crossing patterns is if you're against a speedy defense...those things can go no where quick.
     
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  8. AxeMurderer Legend Cowboys

    Yeah - mea culpa. I had fallen asleep during the game and didn't realize he had hurt his foot.
     
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  9. Catfish Guest

    yeah the old turf toe. he was tearing up the eagles secondary bf the injury.
     
  10. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

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  14. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    NFL, NFLRA come to seven-year CBA agreement

    A seven-year collective bargaining agreement has been reached by the NFL Referees Association and the NFL, the league announced on Saturday.

    With the current contract set to conclude on in May of 2020, the new deal runs through May 31, 2026. The deal came via unanimous approval from the NFLRA Board of Directors and was ratified by a vote of NFLRA membership earlier Saturday.

    "This agreement solidifies the working partnership between the league and officials toward the common goal of developing and training the best officials in the world," NFL Executive Vice President of Football Operations Troy Vincent said in a statement. "We will continue working together to provide fans, players and coaches with officiating performance that meets the highest standards demanded by the game."

    Compensation and benefits, along with training and bringing along officials are areas handled by the the NFL-NFLRA CBA.

    "It was a mutual and cooperative effort that took over a year and a half, and the outcome is seven years of certainty for the league and our officials," said NFLRA Executive Director Scott Green. "We appreciate Troy Vincent and his staff for recognizing that working together to find solutions is the best course of action to reach a long-term agreement."

    (NFL.com)
     
  15. mattymcgee55 Legend Patriots Bruins

    Late to the convo but Tim’s 2nd point is spot on in this circumstance. In the SB video that year the Pats players talked about practicing for that play leading up to the SB. Having a big guy like Brouwner in there to push back against a pick freed up Butler. A pretty good ball from Wilson but Butler was obviously ready for it and outworked Lockett to the predetermined spot for that ball.
     
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  16. mattymcgee55 Legend Patriots Bruins

    lol, just looked at the dates, so late on this conversation.
     
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  17. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    Even worse when the pass rush is getting home quickly, but that also lends more to why I prefer a touch heavier of a set in those situations. Play-action helps to freeze the rusher and a chip from the tight end or fullback before release creates added time.

    If you have a good receiving tight end and a back that is capable of picking up the blitz you can use the TE as one of the primaries in that cross.

    Worst case scenario, just throw it to the sidelines out of bounds and live to the next down.
     
  18. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    That's the great thing about message boards, it's never too late to join in the conversation about random opinions.
     
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  19. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Daniel Jones (5/6 TD) with a 6 yarder to a wide open Gallman… 7-0, Giants.
     
  20. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Browns score first in Baltimore... 7-0.
     
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