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Discussion in 'NFL General Discussion' started by Willie, Nov 19, 2015.

  1. steelersking M.V.P. Steelers

    I agree, i don't see how that benefits him in any way. In my experience putting off surgery makes it more difficult, more opportunity for something to go wrong, or make the rehab longer. Could potentially put him in danger of not being on the field opening day.
     
  2. AxeMurderer Legend Cowboys

    I agree. You can hold out just as easily with a shoulder that's 100% as you can with one needing surgery.
     
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  3. Jeanquev Legend Steelers

    Player hold off on surgery all the time. Then just before the season they decide to do the surgery and you loose them for a few games. Makes no damn sense to me at all.
     
  4. steelersking M.V.P. Steelers

    Most of that is trying to let the body heal on its own, which is preferable to doing an invasive surgery. That i can understand, and rarely does it carry into the regular season. More often than not it is limited to spending some or all of training camp on the PUP list. But putting off surgery to try and force his team to sign a long term deal makes no sense at all. I really hope its Dr orders to put off surgery and not his decision because that doesn't help his cause at all.
     
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  5. Jeanquev Legend Steelers

    Rarely does letting it heal i could take the time to find examples but that is to much work. They should just do the surgery and be done.
     
  6. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

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    In the next CBA, NFL is prepared to make major concessions under the substance-abuse policy...

    With the War on Drugs long over (did we win?), the NFL has begun to quietly realize the folly of its ongoing efforts to police the private lives and bodily fluids of players who may from time to time or more often than that enjoy the pungent fumes of a certain burning leaf. And the next Collective Bargaining Agreement likely will reflect that.

    Per a league source, the NFL is prepared to make major concessions regarding the substance-abuse policy, especially as it relates to marijuana.

    The details of the concessions aren’t known. A complete abandonment (and implicit legalization) of marijuana is possible, but if the league goes in that direction it would need to have a procedure in place for players who are charged criminally with marijuana-related offenses in the states where marijuana continues to be banned.

    A delicate balance may be required. It the law of the land becomes “smoke at will as long as you’re in a weed-legal state,” plenty of free agents will flock to teams in states where it’s legal. So maybe the best approach would be to simply dump marijuana from the list of banned recreational drugs, and move on.

    Really, who would complain if that’s what the league does? The NFL first adopted a program of testing players for drugs that have no bearing on their performance as a matter of P.R., back in the days when every third commercial on TV was the frying egg that supposedly mimicked the internal workings of your brain while “on drugs.” The world has changed dramatically as it relates to marijuana, and the NFL won’t have to worry about the anti-marijuana crowd boycotting games if/when players are allowed to do something that in many states where the league does business they are now legally entitled to do.

    Already, the NFL’s relaxation of its anti-marijuana stance has become apparent. As it relates to players like Josh Gordon, Martavis Bryant, and Randy Gregory, the league has subtly but unmistakably been lenient in the application of the rules that apply after a reinstatement following a suspension for at least one year. Even though all three are currently suspended again, the league apparently gave them multiple chances post-reinstatement when the letter of the current policy contemplates a one-strike-and-back-out-the-door-for-at-least-another-year protocol.

    So why not just dump the marijuana ban now? The problem is that the NFL can’t start abandoning its rights without a concession from the NFL Players Association, and the NFLPA will make no concessions when it comes to a once-per-year marijuana testing procedure that most players are able to navigate successfully. Thus, the best way to back off would be to pitch the cannabis issue into the broader stew of back-and-forthing that will happen in connection with full-blown CBA discussions.

    Again, time will tell how far the league goes in loosening the current marijuana prohibition. But the league could be moving dramatically toward doing the right thing and getting out of the private lives of players as to matters that have no relevance to their employment. (PFT)
     
  7. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Bull shit! A player using drugs in his 'private life;' is a concern for me... even if its just Mary Jane. If I owned a team, I would not want drug addicts or pot heads on my team... clear and simple.

    The whole idea of legalizing weed is crazy to me. Whats next? Why not cocaine, heroine, meth and LSD... I can name many benefits to the usage of those drugs, But I can list many more damaging things about those drugs.

    Mary Jane is just the beginning, pain killers are big right now also... something has to be done, but in my opinion, drug legalization is not the answer to the problems.
     
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  8. gidion72 Legend Steelers

    Marijuana isn’t the problem. When you buy weed from dealers illegally, they have other drugs available, if you buy weed legally they only sell weed. So you’re not exposed to the hard crap while getting your weed. If I was a owner I would want my players smoking weed.
     
  9. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    I have to disagree and draw a line... no pun intended. Making Mary legal is not the answer. It is a drug, period and the shit today is wat more potent than it used to be. I don't want stoned players on my team. Maybe not popular, but just an opinion. Whats next?
     
  10. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    BTW - ive done every drug under the Sun, except extacy. Been hooked on heroine, cocaine, LSD, pot and you name it... alcohol since 6th grade. None of it is good or worth a shit. I have an extensive list of friends and family that ae dead because of drug usage. I just think that opening the door to Marywanna is a bad idea and will lead to more trouble than fixing issues.
     
  11. gidion72 Legend Steelers

    I have to respectfully disagree with you Will. Alcohol should be illegal and weed legal. People don’t overdose on weed or LSD either. But every other drug can kill you including alcohol.
    LSD has good uses but should be controlled for purity reasons. Weed is the only every day drug that isn’t addicting.
     
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  12. Catfish Guest

    then why do pot heads smoke it several times a day if not addicting ? the joy and fun of it ? the high they get ? that high is the same euphoric high alcoholics are looking for and that's why they drink. pot heads are smoking all damn day long. to me that's an addiction.
     
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  14. gidion72 Legend Steelers

    There are no physical addictions to weed.
    People are mentally attached to it.
     
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  15. AxeMurderer Legend Cowboys

    ...And those "mental attachments" apparently can cause feelings of PHYSICAL withdrawal.
     
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  16. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

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    Browns release Jamie Collins...

    The Browns met with the agent for linebacker Jamie Collins at the Scouting Combine and the topic of the conversation was Collins’ future with the team.

    Collins had two years left on the contract he signed with the team in 2017 and the terms for 2019 called for him to make a $10 million base salary while counting $11.75 million against the cap. The obvious implication of the conversation was that the Browns wanted to pay him less or not at all this season and Collins gave a hint about how that went when he tweeted “thanks for everything” to the team on Wednesday.

    The Browns made it official a short time later by announcing that they have released Collins. The move creates $9.25 million in cap space.

    “We want to thank Jamie for his contributions to the Cleveland Browns,” General Manager John Dorsey said in a statement. “These types of decisions are never easy. Jamie is a respected veteran player in this league and we wish him the best as he continues his career.”

    Collins arrived in Cleveland in a midseason trade with the Patriots in 2016. He started 30 games, including every game that Cleveland played last season. He had 104 tackles, four sacks, an interception and a forced fumble in those 16 starts. (PFT)
     
  17. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    When quarterback Kyler Murray sprouted from under 5’10” in August to over 5’10” in February, eyebrows were raised. I joked that maybe he spent 48 hours in a zero-gravity chamber before coming to the Combine.

    In the eyes of some, maybe it wasn’t a joke.

    “I think that his height was inflated,'” an unnamed scout told Dan Patrick on Tuesday, and Dan relayed the story on the Wednesday edition of his show. “‘Maybe it’s the tin-foil hat theory. I just don’t see it. If he refuses to be measured at the Pro Day, that will be telling.'”

    It’s definitely a tin-foil hat theory, but with so much gold riding on individual draft position, who knows that prospects may do to warp reality? As to Murray’s weight, Chris Simms suggested last week that Murray possibly opted not to work out at the Combine because he focused on packing on as many pounds as possible, and that Murray will turn his attention to shedding the weight and running as fast as possible at his Pro Day workout.

    Regardless, the Murray situation is an example of extreme analysis and suspicion and skullduggery, in every direction. Ultimately, all that matters is whether the kid can play. As we said throughout Combine week on PFT Live, the risk of drafting Kyler Murray and having him become a bust is outweighed by the risk of passing on the NFL’s next phenomenon. (PFT)
     
  18. dirk275 Franchise Player Steelers

    So the Bears signed a kicker with with the last name Blewitt. Man, I don't know about that.

    Still, with the way Boz kicked this year, maybe the Steelers shoulda grabbed him
     
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  19. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    He made 69% of his kicks in college. He likely blows and will live up to that last name.
     
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  20. Catfish Guest


    im calling this kid a huge bust now. place your bets.
     
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