NFL - NEWS & NOTES

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  1. gidion72 Legend Steelers

    You can always get brain salad surgery
     
  2. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Arizona Cardinals release LB Daryl Washington

    Daryl Washington was recently reinstated by the NFL, but he won't return as a member of the Arizona Cardinals.

    The Cardinals released Washington on Thursday. The linebacker met with team president Michael Bidwill, general manager Steve Keim and coach Bruce Arians earlier this week.

    "After meeting with Daryl Washington, we have collectively decided it is best to release Daryl and give him the opportunity to continue his career elsewhere," the team said in a statement.

    "I want to thank the Cardinals organization, especially Mr. Bidwill and Steve Keim for drafting and believing in me, and their continued support," Washington released in a statement. "We've had some really positive and productive discussions this week, and at the end of the day we mutually agreed it was best for both sides to get a fresh start. I'm in the best shape of my life, and very much look forward to the next opportunity, where I will again play at an All-Pro level and help my team make a championship run."

    Washington, who hasn't played in the NFL since 2013, was conditionally reinstated by the NFL earlier this week. He had been suspended since May 2014 for violating the league's Policy and Program for Substances of Abuse. The ban was tied to a marijuana violation, for which Washington sought counseling.
     
  3. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    The Chicago Bears released the most senior member of their offense on Thursday.

    Chicago cut veteran wide receiver Eddie Royal after two seasons with the team. Royal was due $5 million in 2017, but will now count nothing against the Bears' cap number.

    NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reports that Royal is still struggling to recover from a turf toe injury and, despite progressing well, was "not ready yet."

    An expensive option at a position the team addressed in the offseason, Royal ended up an expendable part of Chicago's rebuild. The 10-year veteran recorded 70 receptions and 607 yards in 18 games over two seasons in Chicago.

    The Bears are hoping new additions Kendall Wright, Markus Wheaton and Rueben Randle can pick up that slack in spades.
    Chicago is also slated to meet with free-agent wideout Victor Cruz on Monday. Younger but more injury-prone than Royal, Cruz could be an intriguing replacement.
     
  4. manosteel9423 Franchise Player Steelers

    Is this a serious question?

    The word "conditionally", by its very definition, means he wasn't fully reinstated. It means there were "conditions" that needed to be met in order for him to be reinstated.

    So, when I said we know he was "never reinstated", its 100% accurate. He wasn't. By entering rehab BEFORE being reinstated he forfeited that "conditional reinstatement". At that point, in my opinion, he was reverted back to step one of being forced to apply for reinstatement again.
    I just think you are missing the point here. By Gordon entering rehab, he left the league no choice but to rescind the conditional reinstatement and wait for him to apply for reinstatement again.

    Now, we are learning that his agent has left him as well. The fact that it was the agent that left and not that he was fired tells me that he likely wasn't happy about something Gordon was doing...or not doing...in his effort to get reinstated.

    Again, so much is speculation at this point. I just think that you are looking for some sort of conspiracy that doesn't exist.
     
  5. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    Mano, we will never change each other's mind so let's just agree to disagree.

    Regarding "looking for some sort of conspiracy that doesn't exist" . . . If no one ever looks, it will never exist.




    P.S. Ben was guilty. :p
     
  6. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    Agents get paid a percentage of the salary that their clients actually get paid. So it's pretty obvious what Gordon wasn't doing. He wasn't getting paid! Add in the fact that a whole slew of players had just been reinstated, with the exception of their client (including Daryl Washington who was also on suspension for THREE years including a suspension for Domestic Violence) and it's no surprise to me that his agent recognized that Gordon wasn't about to be paid in the near future.

    OBTW: This was the same agent who stated that his client was "doing everything necessary to getting his personal and professional life in order" just a few weeks before Gordon's petition for reinstatement was denied.
     
  7. Catfish Guest

    http://www.denverpost.com/2017/05/03/denver-broncos-season-tickets-weeding/

    how do you guys feel about this? should the broncos take away season tix and their rights from fans who sell their tix online? the pats and kraft did this years ago and it pissed people off. fans pay a shitload of overpriced money for seat licenses so they can't or don't lose their seats. now owners are just taking the seats away bc they are not seeing the profit from the sales. to me they are double dipping here. they already got their money from the fan for the seats to be purchased. now they want a cut from the resale too. that's bullshit.

    and who really owns the seat? the owner or the fan that pays a seat license? most will say the owner, but doesn't the paying fan have ANY RIGHTS?

    if a fan can't go to a game, once he pays for his seats, he can do whatever he wants with them. give them away, resell them etc. he paid for the seats!

    my 2 brothers have 5th low endzone seats at the Linc in South Philly. They own 3 seats so 1 is always open. they bring their kids down or my 1 brothers HS buddy. he gives him the tix. he doesn't make him pay for it.

    as the seat owner, he can do what he wants with it. owners are now saying "no, it's my seat and im taking it from you!"

    unfair.
     
  8. beachbum M.V.P. Manager Steelers

    Couple things of note:

    * Josh Gordon has never been removed from the suspended list.

    * Martavis Bryant was also conditionally reinstated last month but he was not allowed to participate in OTAs because he hadn't met the conditions set forth for his return. Bryant will not be allowed near the football field until all of the conditions are met.

    * Part of the treatment plan for a suspended player is to adhere to a program set in place by a medical director. One of the things a medical director may due is require a player to commit to an in-patient facility. So while everyone is assuming Josh checked himself into rehab it is entirely plausible that he was forced to do so by his medical director - and it wasn't voluntary at all.

    * When Gordon left the 30 day program it was reported that he was still suspended indefinitely and would have to re-apply. That's not a new revelation.

    * Goodell has already taken unprecedented actions to help Gordon. Last summer he was lobbied by both Jim and Sashi Brown to 1) move up Gordon's meeting up 3 weeks to occur prior to the start of training camp so that he could participate in the entire camp and play in the preseason and 2) allow Gordon to remain with his team during his 4-game suspension. To my knowledge, Gordon is the first and only player Goodell has ever done that for. He stuck his neck out for Josh, went against protocol and it didn't work out. If I'm Goodell I'm not doing it again.
     
  9. manosteel9423 Franchise Player Steelers

    Sure, but that doesn't make you any less wrong! :p

    Still doesn't make sense. Gordon is eligible to apply for reinstatement again this summer, prior to the season. The timing isn't right. I could understand him dropping Gordon if he wasn't eligible to reapply until after the 2017 season, because that's an awful long time to wait for a potential payoff, but why drop him when he can reapply in a couple of months if he's clean and doing the right things?
    Oh, right, well then, it must be true because an agent has NEVER lied about one of his clients! *THUMBSUP* :lol:
     
  10. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

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    False. He was "conditionally reinstated" . . . Just like Bryant.

    Good for him !!! Now, how does that differ from Gordon? Both were serving indefinite suspensions for smoking weed. Because Gordon checked himself into rehab? Something Bryant didn't do?

    Except that is not what was reported multiple times by multiple sources.

    Which he did. Just about the same time as did Bryant.

    Shame on Goodell for relaxing his position on weed amidst a social rebellion that wants weed legalized. Do you think for a second he would have backed off on Ray Rice or Adrian Peterson?
     
  11. beachbum M.V.P. Manager Steelers

    Yes, those conditions being that he is suspended for the first 4 weeks and eligible to return Week 5. And when he entered rehab every credible news source said the same thing, "Josh will remain on the suspended list." And when came out of rehab every credible news source said the same thing, "Josh will remain on the suspended list." Because he was never not suspended.

    It doesn't differ, that's my point. As of right now Bryant is in the same position Gordon was in. He has conditions that need to be met before he's able to return to the field. And then he will be re-evaluated prior to the start of the season to see IF he's eligible to return. At this point he hasn't even been cleared to play in the pre-season - yet.

    Okay, link the sources that reported it was voluntary. I know Josh intimated that it was his idea. Who wouldn't?

    I agree, because he was always suspended. It was never lifted.

    My point is that you seem to be taking the stance that Gordon is being treated unfairly compared to guys in a similar predicament. I don't think you can really group his situation wiith anyone else but even if you disagree and you put them all on a level playing field how can you ignore that Goodell did the exact opposite last summer?

    Question for you...

    If Martavis Bryant fails a drug test tomorrow what should his punishment be?
     
  12. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    Agents, like teams, do their due diligence on a client BEFORE they take them on as a client. This particular agent took Gordon on as a client right around the same time that Gordon was conditionally reinstated. Why would he even take him on as a client if he even suspected that Gordon would do something (again) that would prevent him from getting paid? Clients like Gordon no doubt require monitoring above and beyond the normal to ensure that their payday will, in fact, be forthcoming. He didn't drop Gordon as a client until Imediately AFTER Gordon's petition was denied while others (in the same boat) were being approved. Why spend the additional resources to monitor a player that, based on the recent decision, may never be reinstated?
     
  13. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Patriots, center David Andrews agree to 3-year, $9M extension

    Another day, another under-the-radar value extension for the New England Patriots.

    According to NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport, the team and center David Andrews have agreed to a three-year extension, bypassing Andrews' restricted free agency year next year and taking him to 2020 under contract.

    The deal is worth $9 million but could be worth a maximum of $11.17 million.

    Back in November, the team signed tackle Marcus Cannon to a very affordable six-year, $35.9 million deal. Both starting guards (Joe Thuney and Shaq Mason) are still on their very affordable rookie deals.

    If nothing else, this is another reason why it's good to be Bill Belichick. On other teams, this version of the contract might have been the negotiating floor. On the Patriots, where players stay to win, it's a phenomenal deal for a good center who is only getting better.

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    Carry on...
     
  14. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

    Risk/reward. Get a player before someone else can. Mistaken believe stuff would be fine. There are a ton of valid reasons.

    P.S. agents, like teams, can be stupid too.
     
  15. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish


    Personally, I feel a sporting complex reserves the right to allow FANS to purchase tickets and if anyone that owns those tickets do something detrimental to the team/organization, they should be allowed to rescind those tickets at any time. You can always sue if you feel it was unjust.

    In this case, it wasn't simply a matter of fans couldn't make it to a game, so they sold their tickets online. It was professional scalpers who found a way of getting their hands on the tickets and hadn't attended a single game in 3 seasons or more. One guy said he became ill before last season started and couldn't attend the games, what he didn't realize is they started tracking tickets 5 years ago and he hadn't attended a single game in over 3 years, even though he was diagnosed just prior to the last season.


    These people inherit tickets and have no want/need for them other than turning a profit. In most cases, they owned the tickets before PSLs were even required.

    You walk into a home stadium nowadays and you see so many of the opposing teams fans in there, really it is a shame. It is supposed to be home field.

    I don't have any problem with this, I actually applaud it. They didn't steal the tickets from fans hands or do it because they were losing money..they aren't making any more money now than if they didn't revoke it. They did it to get more tickets into the hands of the 75,000 fans on the waiting list to receive them.
     
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  17. Catfish Guest

    dawg-the guy who lied about his health is a scumbag as he was caught selling years bf his health went bad.

    a profit ? only for the big games. most go near face value. and many can't afford that much more face value as that price is high enough. the crappy games go near or less than face value.

    but lets say it's you and you can't make 1-2 games a year and you sell them. not to a scaper, but to a cousin or brother or co-worker, bc you sold a seat you already paid for gives the Browns or Broncos the right to take away your entire package of seats and ownership? that's bullshit. you paid the browns for it already. you own it. what you do with it is your business.

    sure the Broncos are trying to help out fans on a waiting list but there are other ways to do it. not like this.
     
  18. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Former NFL WR Michael Jackson killed in motorcycle crash

    Former NFL wide receiver Michael Jackson, who played eight seasons with the Browns and Ravens in the 1990s, was killed in a motorcycle crash early Friday morning, Louisiana State Police confirmed to NFL.com. He was 48.

    According to a Louisiana State Police news release, Jackson crashed into a car moving across lanes on U.S. Highway 51 in Tangipahoa, Louisiana, around 1 a.m. CDT.

    The driver of the car, a 20-year-old woman, was reversing out of a parking space before the vehicle backed across lanes on the highway. Jackson was travelling "at a high rate of speed" when he hit the driver's side door and penetrated the vehicle. The driver of the car also was killed in the collision.
     
  19. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish


    I think you are misreading the situation Cat...

    1) This is the Broncos, they have been sold out for 47 years and have 75,000 people on a waiting list to purchase season tickets. 97% of their yearly sales are season tickets, only 3% reserved for individual ticket sales. Their regular season home games don't go at or under face value, EVER.

    2) Some of the revoked tickets were returned to the owners. This isn't a case of, if you don't go to a single game in a season they will revoke the tickets. Nearly all of the revoked tickets were from owners who had sold every game for at least 2 full seasons. Those aren't fans, they are profiteers and imho, the Broncos are well within their rights to revoke in those cases.

    3) Again, these are not season ticket holders who are selling to family members, friends or co-workers. The Broncos have tracked all 3rd party sites for season tickets being sold for the past 5+ years. They have tracked them by ticket number. If you are selling a couple of games to family members or friends, you aren't even on the tracking list.

    These are ticket numbers that show up being sold for every game, and more specifically for multiple years.
     
  20. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Hue Jackson: Starting QB job is Cody Kessler's to lose

    In a 1-15 season, it seemed as though the only positive outcome for the Cleveland Browns was the first overall selection in the 2017 draft, which became Myles Garrett.

    It turns out that someone else is benefiting from the misery of 2016.

    Cody Kessler owns the starting quarterback job for the Browns as they open offseason practices, according to head coach/quarterback whisperer Hue Jackson.

    "This thing's open. It really is," Jackson said Saturday of the team's quarterback competition after the Browns' second rookie camp practice, via ESPN. "But Cody's done a great job. That's the reason I brought his name up first. He's really improved. He's worked his tail off, and he deserves the right and the opportunity to walk in this building and walk out there first.
    "And they've got to take it from him."

    We learned Friday that while plenty in orange and brown want to be saved, there cannot be one savior, but a collective group working toward refusing to lose. Right now, Kessler is at the head of that group, earning that privilege after taking a beating but hanging in there long enough to record the most starts (eight) for a Browns quarterback in 2016. Will it include DeShone Kizer? Almost decidedly yes, at least for the next couple of years. Kevin Hogan? Perhaps, if the Browns carry a third quarterback.
    Brock Osweiler? Well...

    "He's competing," Jackson said. "He's here. And I said from the beginning, if a guy is in our locker room we're going to treat him like any of our other players."

    Any and everyone with common football sense knows that the Browns paid the price of clearing a locker (and eating a whole lot of cap space) for Osweiler in exchange for Houston's second-round pick in 2018. Still, that quote was pretty noncommittal from Jackson.

    "I think in this league we all know you can't have enough good quarterbacks, enough guys to train at the position," Jackson said. "You never know how it's going to unfold, and things do happen, but he's competing.

    "He's done a good job. He's been great in the room with the guys. He's been a good person in the building. We're going to continue to allow him to do that and see what he has to show for us and kind of go from there."

    Jackson's correct about two things here: You truly can't have enough good quarterbacks, or for the Browns, warm bodies at the position. With its incredibly painful start to 2016 that included six different quarterbacks attempting passes during the season, the Browns showed that prices of direct flights to Cleveland should always be monitored by signal-callers looking for work
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    Jackson is also right to take this line when questioned about Osweiler, because ultimately, the decision concerning his contract will be made by executive VP Sashi Brown. Osweiler is the unknown who might already be an afterthought, or a player who was never truly wanted in the first place. We won't know that until it officially becomes the past, but one thing is for certain as Cleveland attempts to turn things around: the starting quarterback job is Kessler's to lose. (NFL.com)
     

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