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Discussion in 'NFL General Discussion' started by Willie, Oct 16, 2017.

  1. Badd_Man1 M.V.P. Vikings

    I'm so so on Lance and he ain't proved he's an elite QB just don't see the 49ers giving up on him cause its a prove to me year
     
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  2. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Tua Tagovailoa admits he considered retirement

    Dolphins quarterback Tua Tagovailoa had two concussions last year, and probably a third. At a Wednesday press conference, he was asked whether he thought about walking away from the game after the Christmas Day concussion that ended his 2022 season.

    “Yeah, I think I considered it, you know, for a time, having sat down with my family, having sat down with my wife and having those kind of conversations,” Tagovailoa said. “Really, it would be hard for me to walk away from this game with how old I am, with my son. I always dreamed of growing — playing as long as I could to where my son knew exactly what he was watching his dad do. Yeah, I mean it’s my health, it’s my body. I feel like this is what’s best for me and my family. I love the game of football. If I didn’t I would have quite a long time [ago].”

    In support of his decision to keep playing, he cited medical opinions that Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy “wasn’t going to be a problem” for him, because he’s not “constantly” hitting his head, like linebackers and linemen do.

    Still, the challenge for 2023 will be finding a way to minimize his head injuries. He discussed on Wednesday the jiu-jitsu training he has incorporated into his preparations.

    “Obviously learned how to fall,” Tua said. “Learned some grappling techniques. Learned some other things too that I don’t think I should disclose. But for the most part, learned how to fall. You think it’s easy. Just don’t fall and hit your head. But a lot more to it.”

    He said he has used crash pads in an effort to learn how to fall, a process that also includes “tucking your chin” when going to the ground. He said the goal is to disperse energy when falling.

    “It’s actually a lot cooler than you think when you hear of learning how to fall,” Tua said.

    “I’ve been falling a lot this offseason,” he added. “So I think just like anything else, you continue to train it, you continue to work it that it becomes second nature.”

    The problem is that he won’t get a chance to implement his techniques until it’s time to play in actual games, since quarterbacks face little contact during practices.

    “We barely get hit throughout practices until the season starts,” Tua said. “With jiu-jitsu, I’ve been thrown airborne, I’ve been put in many uncomfortable positions for me to learn how to fall and try to react throughout those positions that I’m getting thrown around in.”

    It’s one of the biggest questions for the 2023 season. Can he avoid taking hits? When he does, can he fall in a way that keeps his helmet from striking the turf?

    If not, will he eventually make a different decision about his football future?

    PFT
     
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  3. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Sorry. I love this tune, its one of my all-time favs. Too baddd Tua getting nocked around reminded of it.

     
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  4. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

    New York sent this year's pick No. 13, a 2023 second-round pick (No. 42), a sixth-round pick (No. 207) and a conditional 2024 second-round pick to Green Bay in exchange for Rodgers, the No. 15 pick, and a 2023 fifth round pick (No. 170), according to ESPN's Adam Schefter. The second-round pick becomes a first if Rodgers plays 65% of the snaps this season.
     
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  5. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    About time too... Cant wait to see him, well, I'll be nice... for now.
     
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  6. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

    Translation. Packers get a 2nd this year and a 2nd next year that becomes a 1st if Rodgers is healthy.
    Packers also move up 2 spots in the 1st and give up a 5th round pick for a 6th round pick.
     
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  7. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    The only part that surprised me is there is no retirement clause sending picks back to the Jets if he’s one and done.
     
  8. Badd_Man1 M.V.P. Vikings

    About time but it will be all for nothing if Aaron Rodgers and Jets don't win the SB
     
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  9. dlinebass5 M.V.P. Bears

    Yeah, feels like the Jets gave up too much here. They had the Packers by the balls. Oh, well.
     
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  10. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    I think thats a very good point.
     
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  11. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Brian Gutekunst on trading Davante Adams, Aaron Rodgers: There’s risk in the NFL

    First, it was Davante Adams. Now, it’s Aaron Rodgers.

    The Packers traded their All-Pro receiver in 2022, nine days after Rodgers announced he was returning to the team rather than retire. On Monday, the Packers completed a trade that will send their All-Pro quarterback to the Jets.

    In 2020 and 2021, Adams caught 238 passes for 2,927 yards and 29 touchdowns in earning back-to-back All-Pro honors. That’s an average of eight catches for 98 yards and a touchdown per game. He helped Rodgers win back-to-back MVP honors.

    The Packers went 26-7 in the final two seasons with Rodgers and Adams on their roster. But they were only 1-2 in the postseason with upset losses at home to the Bucs in the NFC Championship Game in the 2020 season and to the 49ers in the division round in the 2021 season.

    Now, both are gone without winning a championship together.

    “That’s part of the job, right?” Packers General Manager Brian Gutekunst said Monday, via video from Matt Schneidman of TheAthletic.com. “Absolutely. That’s part of the job. Obviously, Aaron was entering a time in his career where he was going to be ending, and we had to be prepared for the future and get prepared to try to move forward. Yeah, that’s part of the National Football League. Great players are going to come, and they’re going to go. You’ve got to be prepared to add good football players to your roster, so you can keep winning. This is the National Football League.”

    The Packers drafted Christian Watson in the second round last year to replace Adams. He showed promise with 41 catches for 611 yards and seven touchdowns in 14 games.

    They now begin the Jordan Love era, having drafted the heir apparent to Rodgers in the first round in 2020.

    Gutekunkst was asked if his trades of Adams to the Raiders and Rodgers to the Jets were “risky.”

    “There’s risk in the National Football League,” Gutekunst said. “I mean, we were 8-9 last year, so we’re trying to get better. You know what I mean? I think that’s important.”

    PFT
     
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  12. beachbum Legend Manager Steelers

    Shots fired!
     
  13. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

    I'm not too surprised because it was said earlier that the Packers would not include one and it was what was holding things up.
     
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  14. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

    AKA the Packers know the are mid at best and keeping Rodgers won't put them over the top and they need to move on while there is value in their player. It feels like they traded Adams so that Rodgers would force his way out and they could trade him easier this offseason at value "reluctantly" instead of trying to dump him off.
     
  15. Badd_Man1 M.V.P. Vikings

    Interesting never thought about that
     
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  16. Jeanquev Legend Steelers

    I think it was the other way. The jets were the desperate ones.
     
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  17. dirk275 Franchise Player Steelers

    Youre right. It seems to me that the Jets know they're a QB away from the playoffs and acted that way in this trade. I don't know if it pays off but it's all or nothing.
     
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  18. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    Had a thought this morning about the Rodgers/Jets trade that brought a wry smile to my face...

    I'm ready to watch New Jersey burn when the Jets miss the playoffs and Geno Smith's Seattle Seahawks play Sam Darnold's 49ers to see which former New York quarterback plays in the Super Bowl while the Jets stare down the barrel of Rodgers retirement and their 2024 first round pick being shipped to the Packers.

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  19. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Even with the addition of Rodgers (whos better days are long gone, imo) the Jets are only the 3rd best team in their division. Joe Douglas thinks this is the greatest thing to happen to the Jets since Joe Namath, but I think he's a bit delusional. The Jets and their fans are in for a huge let-down and Rodgers, if he doesnt get injured, will find his way to his quiet place or retire and the Jets will be standing there all alone holding their football wondering what happened.

    There was never a doubt in my mind that Rodgers was never going to play again in GB, but the Jets bowed down to their demand when it should have been the other way around. To me the Packers got the win in this trade as they wanted him out anyways. Rodgers and the Packers were 8-9 last season... I bet they might do that in NY, but only if Rodgers stays healthy. Im not buying into this being the guy who puts the Jets in the playoffs and a whole lotta people havnt stopped there, they are sadly thinking SB appearance with him.
     
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  20. beachbum Legend Manager Steelers

    I'm beginning to think Adams was over the Rodgers drama and forced his way out.
     

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