MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACK

Well... not exactly the same, Rodgers hand size is 9 3/8" according to some sources and 10 1/4" according to other sources. I don't know which is accurate. Burrow's is 9" though and he does fine in Cincy. Pickett is 8 1/2". I have had a hand size issue with QBs in the past, but with him playing college ball in the same EXACT elements as his new NFL home, I don't think it really matters in this case.

 

I never understood the hype around his hand size. If he can play, he can play... and I havnt heard of him having a fumbling issue?

 

Drew Brees was always said to be too short to be an NFL qb. That didn't seem to slow him down.

 

I believe he had 30+ fumbles over his college career, however the bigger cause to his issues is the way carried the ball. Both within the pocket and scrambling the ball was held away from his body. Have not gone and looked for myself yet.

 

Thanks... I was wondering about that.

Nice to see you back on L4SN... its been a while.

 

Bad situation between Browns and Baker Mayfield becomes worse



The Browns and Baker Mayfield may eventually need each other in 2022. Someone may be trying to blow things up before it ever gets to that point.

A new article from Jake Trotter of ESPN.com throws more bituminous on the burn pile in Cleveland, highlighting how and why player and team got to the point of no return. It comes at a time when a return has emerged as a potentially plausible outcome, especially with new starter Deshaun Watson possibly facing a longer suspension than anyone expects.

Here are the specific comments that caught our eye when reviewing Trotter’s article.

Regarding the events that led to the release of receiver Odell Beckham Jr., Trotter reports that OBJ didn’t call or text Mayfield after OBJ’s father posted a video of instances where Mayfield missed or overthrew Beckham, even though the pair “often played video games together” and had vacationed in Montana with other teammates over Labor Day weekend.

Then there’s this. An unnamed starter made the following comment when asked if he’d seen the video posted by Beckham’s father: “Why would I watch the video? I see it every day in practice.”

Trotter also reports that multiple sources close to Mayfield wonder whether the team specifically tried to make him “look as hapless as possible” in the Monday night finale in Pittsburgh, in order to make it easier to move on from Mayfield after the season. The Browns declined to provide a comment to Trotter as to those suspicions.

Mayfield also became upset when he learned via social media on March 15 that the Browns’ brain trust was flying to Houston to meet with Deshaun Watson. Per Trotter, the last straw came for Mayfield the next day, when ESPN’s Chris Mortensen reports that the Browns want “an adult” at quarterback.

Trotter’s story bears the fingerprints of Baker Mayfield or those close to him. It’s obvious he doesn’t want to stay in Cleveland. It’s also obvious that the Browns, who owe him $18.8 million this year fully guaranteed, aren’t inclined to let him go just because he wants to be gone.

How it plays out could become a huge story for the balance of the offseason, especially if the Browns continue to wait for a trade opportunity that may never arise — and if the Browns lose Watson for longer than they expect and hope to make Mayfield earn his $18.8 million playing for them.

Through it all, Mayfield needs to tread lightly. As explained recently, if Mayfield misbehaves the Browns could try to cut him for “personal conduct which, in the reasonable judgment of the Club, adversely affects . . . the Club” and avoid the $18.8 million obligation.

The passage of time may not make this any better. Barring a highly-unlikely serious injury to a starter on a team that opts to look elsewhere in lieu of using the “next man up,” the Browns may choose to play it out with Mayfield, tolerating the distraction of having him while waiting and hoping he makes the kind of misstep that will allow them to cut him and not pay him.

With the worst-case scenario — Mayfield being cut and going straight to Pittsburgh — now highly unlikely given the drafting of Kenny Pickett, maybe Chief Strategy Officer Paul DePodesta has cooked up something aimed at getting Mayfield to cross the line that allows them to cross him off the roster with no further financial obligation.

Hopefully, DePodesta’s four-month plan will work better than his “4-year plan.”

PFT

 

Pete Carroll doesn’t see Seahawks trading for veteran quarterback

The Seahawks didn’t draft a quarterback, though they did sign Levi Lewis as an undrafted free agent.

That gives them Drew Lock, Geno Smith, Jacob Eason and Lewis on their roster at the position.


Without a clear-cut QB1, the Seahawks and Baker Mayfield always seemed a perfect match. Even the Browns quarterback figured he would end up in Seattle.

Post-draft, however, Mayfield remains on the Browns’ roster and the Seahawks appear uninterested.

Coach Pete Carroll said Thursday on Sports Radio KJR that the Seahawks could continue to look for options at the position. But. . .

“I don’t see us making a trade for anybody at all. I don’t see that happening,” Carroll told Ian Furness, via Brady Henderson of ESPN.

The Browns will have to eat much of Mayfield’s guaranteed $18.8 million salary for 2022 to facilitate a trade, something that prevented the trade of the quarterback to the Panthers during the draft. Now, every team, other than the Seahawks, appears to have a solid plan at the position.

PFT

 

Good luck Seattle... let the tank begin!

 

Bullshit. They are not bringing that guy back in the locker room. I couldn't imagine a more dysfunctional way to start their 2022 season.

 

Agreed. I think its mutual between both parties that they wont be together. I would be shocked if anything different happend.

 

Ryan Poles: We’re all in on Justin Fields



The Bears hired a new head coach and General Manager this offseason and, as is usually the case with such changes, those moves have been followed by significant changes to the roster.

Wide receiver Allen Robinson left as a free agent, pass rusher Khalil Mack was traded to the Chargers, and several veterans were released as new coach Matt Eberflus and General Manager Ryan Poles began to put their stamp on the team. There haven’t been as many notable additions to the roster, due in large part to the cap situation and the lack of draft assets after last year’s trade up in the draft for quarterback Justin Fields.


The moves they have made haven’t followed the blueprint of other teams trying to build up the offense around young quarterbacks, but Poles said on ESPN 1000 Friday that their absence isn’t because the team is not fully committed to a future with Fields running the offense.

“We’re all in on Justin. I believe in Justin. Our coaches believe in Justin. Like I said from the beginning, we’re going to set him up to succeed,” Poles said, via Courtney Cronin of ESPN.com.

No matter the circumstances of the offseason or comments from the team, any lack of progress from Fields in his second season will lead to questions about both the team’s roster decisions and their ongoing commitment to a quarterback who predated the current regime.

PFT

 

Dennis Allen: It’s “certainly the plan” for Jameis Winston to start Week One



After Deshaun Watson chose to be traded to the Browns, the Saints quickly pivoted to bring back quarterback Jameis Winston on a two-year deal.

Winston’s coming off a torn ACL. But the fact that New Orleans did not pick a quarterback during the draft leaves Winston as the team’s clear QB1 entering 2022.


In an appearance on the Rich Eisen Show this week, Saints head coach Dennis Allen said Winston is doing well in his rehab. Allen added that it’s “certainly the plan” for Winston to be behind center when the season starts.

“There’s a lot of days between now and Week One, but we certainly like where he’s at right now,” Allen said. “We like the progress that he’s making. Man, I really loved a lot of the things that he did last year for us — 14 touchdowns, three interceptions. There was just some really good stuff that you see. and my vision and my hope is that he continues to progress on the same level as he gets another year in the system.”

Winston completed 59 percent of his passes for 1,170 yards with those 14 touchdowns and three interceptions. With another year in the system and receiver Michael Thomas expected back, Winston could be even better in 2022.

PFT

 

Not for nothin but Winston only completed 59% of his passes. That’s not going to cut it at the NFL level.
The only reason why he had better stats in his 5 games as a starter for the saints was because they weren’t throwing the ball as much limiting the damage Winston could do.

 

I'm trying to keep a positive attitude toward this season. Are the Saints going to the Super Bowl? NO! But I see a good season. As for Winston? His last season with the Bucs is hard to overlook. 31 picks in 16 games. So his throwing the ball fewer times makes sense. Last season he played in 7 games and went 5-2 including wins over the Packers and Bucs. That's respectable. And the return of Michael Thomas can only help. Drew Brees he's not.

 

you mean more dysfunctional than say hiring a serial sex offender to take over for that guy you are talking about?

 

What the mental midget click-baiters at PFT keep forgetting (or neglecting to mention) is that Mayfield's $18.8M salary is already included in the Browns' cap space (currently around $28.8M - 2nd most in the NFL). So, ANYTHING picked up by the team trading for Mayfield ends up as a cap save for the Browns. IF, the Browns end up just releasing him (possible) his entire $18.8 salary turns into "Dead Money" and they STILL have around $28.8M in cap space.

 

Thomas and Chris Olave is a serious 1 and 2 punch... hopefully.

 

What they are trying to say @Lyman is if they want to trade him to save any salary cap space, they must be willing to eat a majority of his contract. I think everyone agrees on that.

Regardless of what some believe, I still believe they will not cut him. It doesn't make fiscal or business sense for that to happen. The ONLY argument that could be made is that he would disrupt the locker room. If the locker room disrespects him as much as 90% of the reports are, having him there won't matter. It isn't a distraction, it's an inside joke. The more he "leaks" or puts out there, the less likely he is to have a new home in 2022. If he shows up and does his job (what I want him to do so that other teams can see that his maturity level is higher than reported), then they will find a trade partner, or at least have the best backup in the league. If he shows up and causes ANY kind of scene whatsoever, they can send him home suspended without pay and I don't think the union would be able to get him out of it. He would also be out of the league at that point because his immaturity would have reached the likes of Manziel at that point.

REGARDLESS, it makes zero sense to cut him at any point of this season. He has made it kind of clear that he won't show up, which is an automatic suspension without pay.

 

Pretty sure all they can do is fine him.

 

what’s the difference, he won’t be there and they won’t be paying him. If he doesn’t show up, he doesn’t get gamechecks, if he does show up and causes turmoil, I’m pretty sure they can suspend him.