Looking Forward to the 2021 AFC North

Well, in so many words, Wilson just did the same thing. It’s the only reason he “might” be on the trade block, as your previous post indicated.

 

It was a fun conversation, but we can move on from the conversation about the Browns being in the market to trade Baker for a different QB. They are not considering it..

 

I dont think anybody was saying he was on the market.

 

Talking about replacing him implies that.

 

And now, 31 teams' fans think J.J. Watt is about to join up.

 

Save the Watt contract and let's start talking extension for this man.

 

JJ Watt wants to play in Pittsburg with his brothers. I have heard that he is willing to take vet minimum to make it happen.

 

As a fan of a divisional rival . . . I hope Colbert goes all kneejerk homer and signs him. The dude turns 32 years old next month and has played a full 16 game season only twice in the past five years. One of those two was last year when he generated a whopping 5 sacks. (For a point of reference - Sheldon Richardson had 4 1/2 sacks last year - as a Defensive Tackle)

There is no question that, at one point in his career, JJ Watt was the Gold Standard by which all other DE's were measured. But that was nine years ago.

 

lmaooo

 

I think a bit of this can be explained with the double-team rate. Despite age, injuries, and a decline in talent, J.J. Watt was still the most double-teamed pass rusher in the NFL last season.



(Side-note: Myles Garrett was third, and first in triple-team rate... whereas T.J. Watt was not routinely double teamed because he's not that good.)

 

Interesting to note.. Myles was #1 on a per-game basis. The Browns were, reportedly, the highest bidders in 2020 for Jadeveon Clowney. If they were to sign J.J. Watt, they'd have to two highest double-teamed EDGE players in the NFL. Means our interior linemen would have Aaron Donald-esque numbers because you can't consistently block two guys with four.

 

Good luck double teaming JJWatt if he was on the Steelers. Hayward, JJ Watt, Tuitt, TJ Watt and Highsmith . Which of those guys are you not blocking to double team another?

 

The Browns were, reportedly, the highest bidders in 2020 for Jadeveon Clowney.


He was a Big disappointment in Tennessee SAS......only played 8 games due to injury and are the Titans going to re-sign him ???

 

Per the Graph above:

T.J. Watt was double-teamed 16% of the time = 72 double teams out of 452 pass rush
Myles Garrett double-teamed 25% of the time = 117 double teams out of 468 pass rush

So T.J. produced 15 sacks, 27 QB hits, 31 hurries, 73 total pressures
Garrett produced 12 sacks, 7 QB hits, 36 hurries, 56 total pressures

So by getting double-teamed 9% less often, T.J. was able to produce 30.4% more than Myles.

Cool Graph

 

p.s. There's probably a pretty good reason the guys on the right side of the graph are 4-3 guys. If you're an OC and you're putting your game plan together for the week do you really want to scheme up a bunch of double-teams for a guy who may drop into coverage? Would look pretty foolish watching two guys block air while a ILB blitzes the B-gap.

 

p.p.s. When T.J. wasn't dwarfing Garrett's pass-rushing numbers he was also doubling him in tackles for loss - 23 to 11. The 23 TFLs were the T-10th most in a season ever. #BestEdgeInFootball

 

p.p.p.s T.J. is only the third player ever to lead the NFL in Sacks, TFLs and Total Pressures #TripleCrown #Robbed

 

p.p.p.p.s....


Nah I'm done.

 

I don't have to double-team any of them. Our offensive line could match up 1:1 and let one guy take the day off. T.J. Watt had three chances at Baker in 2020 and notched zero QB hurries, zero QB sacks, and one QB hit.

Best Edge in Football? He's not even the Best Edge on his own team!

 

I couldn't find the actual numbers... thanks for the info!

Garrett was credited with 18 QB hits, but sure...

It took him 18.75% more games to produce that 30.4% number, which I'm not even sure is spot-on given you shorted Myles quite a few QB hits...

Right you are, sir! That was actually my first takeaway of the graph... it doesn't tell the whole story because no one schemes to double-team an outside linebacker - especially one who lines up off-ball and outside often like T.J. Watt. Another interesting datapoint would be whom the defender is beating for those numbers. OLBs (not just Watt) are likely facing a tackle and a running back or tight end in double-team situations. Traditional 4-3 DEs are more likely to face a tackle/guard combo which is an obviously harder block. So even the win-rate is a bit tricky to gauge. Guys like J.J. Watt and Myles would look a lot better going against a 210 pound running back setup in pass pro than a 300 pound pulling guard.

A stat they only started keeping 100% track of since 2008, but sure...

Hashtag game is #onpoint today!