Lawsuits & Legal Matters

Discussion in 'NHL General Discussion Board' started by Willie, Jul 19, 2015.

  1. KilkennyDan Let's Go Buffalo! Patreon Champion Sabres Bills Kilkenny

    Those [del]fa[/del] bundles of sticks at Penn. They dropped D-1 hockey in the late '70's. They have zero right to have anything to say about hockey in my book.
     
  2. firehalo Guest

    Interesting... then slightly disappointed. They didn't drop the gloves not even once.
     
  3. firehalo Guest

  4. LOL @ "bundles of sticks". i see what u did there :)
     
  5. rediiis Guest

    why was I looking for linears at centre ice at the intermission.
     
  6. skinny123 Guest

  7. hockeybob Hall-of-Fame Blackhawks

    The help from a helmet against acceleration is negligible from what I've seen in the medical journals. I think the hype on decreased acceleration is about marketing rather than the construction of a better piece of gear. They're primary and overwhelming benefit remains protecting the melon from skull fractures and lacerations. It's kind like putting a filter on a cigarette. Yeah, it takes it from bad to a bad minus 1.
     
  8. hockeybob Hall-of-Fame Blackhawks

    This goes to that "bell rung" thing.
    Almost nobody thought about the brain. They thought about the knees, back, hands, face, etc. I'm guessing the suit is going to say that the league was thinking about the brain but decided to not share those thoughts.

    A neurologist in 2013 wasn't going to tell Randy about the brain, he had his experts. A mix of archaic philosophies behind the benches and players that refuse to rewatch plays they were injured on means the league has to do something, which they appear to be doing.
     
  9. hockeybob Hall-of-Fame Blackhawks

    First Blood = underrated
     
  10. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    I think you could find negligence on the part of the NHL and the player. I personally, no matter what im told even by so called experts, am going to take personal responsibility in all aspects of life. Personal responsibility was lacking in that era in time.
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    There was a concussion awareness back in the day, just not as prevalent as today do to technological advances, imo. Players and lawyers must be aware of this, i would think. The word concussion was used a lot when i rode my bike back in the 70's.
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    The NHL went from a helmetless sport to a much faster harder hitting sport and i think during that transitional period of time, there were lots of mistakes by both sides in terms of safety... growth periods tend to have a certain amount of uncertainty.
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    Blatant neglect and ignorance of known facts is what i want to see proved, if it exist's. Players claim that it did and does, but the NHL is rather quiet, but still making progressive attempts at bettering the game. This is interesting, at least for now.
     
  11. ex machina is well worth watching. some people seem think it's the greatest sci-fi film EVAR - i won't go nearly that far, but it is very good.
     
  12. firehalo Guest

    Although the disco scene was most excellent, and the movie was really good, it wasn't the greatest sci-fi flick ever. Don't get me wrong, the film is definitely worth seeing... but especially the disco scene.

    Forgot to mention. In Ex-Machina, they reference the Turing Test, which is very important in AI (not Allen Iverson) development. Alan Turing was the Enigma Breaker during WW2. His machine is considered to be the first computer.
     
  13. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    In trying to update and find additional data, i found this...
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    Law360, New York (July 22, 2015, 7:19 PM ET) -- A suit claiming the National Hockey League failed to warn former Chicago Blackhawks center Steve Ludzik of hockey-related brain damage risks will be consolidated with similar cases in Minnesota federal court, the Judicial Panel on Multidistrict Litigation said Wednesday.
    Ludzik?s case is set to join 10 others in the MDL, in which former players have accused the league of hiding its knowledge about the connection between repeated blows to the head and long-term cognitive ailments including chronic traumatic encephalopathy. The JPML said no one had objected to transferring the Ludzik case, which the panel had proposed in a conditional order last week.

    Ludzik, who is now 54 years old and has Parkinson?s disease, was drafted by the Blackhawks in 1980 and played professionally until 1990 before coaching the Tampa Bay Lightning from 1999 to 2001.

    In a complaint filed in June in Illinois federal court, he alleged that the NHL knew that numerous concussive head traumas sustained by players in NHL games and practices would lead to neurodegenerative disease and impairments, but either ignored or concealed those risks from players.

    Ludzik blasted NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman for publicly declaring this year that there was ?no evidence? connecting brain trauma sustained during an NHL career to neurological impairments.

    Concussion suits like Ludzik?s against the NHL cropped up last year in the wake of similar claims against the National Football League. The JPML consolidated the first batch of those suits in August in Minnesota.

    U.S. District Judge Susan Richard Nelson refused in March to dismiss the hockey MDL, finding that former players including David Christian, who played for the 1980 U.S. Olympic hockey team and subsequently spent more than a decade in the NHL, had sufficiently alleged that the league had acted to hide the impacts of concussions.

    Corboy & Demetrio PC, the law firm that represents Ludzik and is helping to spearhead the MDL, told the JPML earlier this month that the Ludzik suit was a tagalong action involving the same factual questions as the 10 suits already consolidated.

    Although the firm managed to get Ludzik?s case added to the MDL, it has not been uniformly successful in its motions for consolidation.

    Another Corboy & Demetrio client, the estate of the late NHL ?enforcer? Derek Boogaard, moved last week to move its suit against the NHL over Boogaard?s head injuries and drug addiction to the MDL from Illinois federal court. Boogaard?s parents said that keeping the case out of the MDL would risk inconsistent rulings on whether head injury claims are preempted by the NHL?s collective bargaining agreement with its players.

    But the clerk of the JPML said in a Friday order that the Boogaard suit would not make an appropriate addition to the MDL. That order means the survival of the Boogaard suit depends on how U.S. District Judge Gary Feinerman rules on the NHL?s motion to toss the suit as preempted, which Boogaard?s parents have opposed.

    Attorneys for Ludzik and the NHL did not immediately respond to requests for comment Wednesday.

    Ludzik is represented by William T. Gibbs and Thomas A. Demetrio of Corboy & Demetrio PC and Richard R. Gordon of Gordon Law Offices Ltd.

    The NHL is represented in the MDL by John Beisner, Shepard Goldfein, Matthew M. Martino, Jessica Davidson Miller and James A. Keyte of Skadden Arps Slate Meagher & Flom LLP, Joseph Baumgarten and Adam M. Lupion of Proskauer Rose LLP and by Dan Connolly, Joe Price, Linda Svitak and Aaron Van Oort of Faegre Baker Daniels LLP.

    The case is In re: National Hockey League Players' Concussion Injury Litigation, case number MDL 2551, in the U.S. District Court for the District of Minnesota.
     
  14. hockeybob Hall-of-Fame Blackhawks

  15. amen to this. paraphrased hearsay way > transcripts, facts, actual rulings
     
  16. skinny123 Guest

    This is what I don't get, you don't see Johnny Bower doing something like this. Here's a guy that had no mask and took pucks off the face, always shows up to functions at 89 and not a bad word to say about the league. All these old guys are just a little bitter they missed the boat as far as the new age big contracts go, they might be struggling a bit financially and are using any leverage they could muster, right or wrong.
     
  17. rediiis Guest

    i think in any career choice you understand the implications of work injury. if i had a 3 yr old, i would set him on the coffee table and bump him off. see kid, that is why you don't want to be a roofer. with sports paychecks, just like drug paychecks, there is a short shelf-life with possible and probable injury risks that could be career ending. you are not forced to play in the nhl or deal drugs. choices. good luck suing el chapo for getting shot.
     
  18. skinny123 Guest

    I doubt going forward you'll see much more of these, could you imagine sakic, sundin, lidstrom or chelios asking for money in a lawsuit after all the money they racked up over the years. It's all about their current financial state, if you were a second or third liner in the 80's, lineup, weinberg , friedman and associates wants to speak with you.
     
  19. rediiis Guest

    i was thinking of pronger triple dipping, with paychecks coming from everywhere
     
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