LAOJoe & RTTRUTH's 11th Annual Collaborative Mock Draft

Discussion in 'NFL Draft' started by RTTRUTH, Apr 6, 2020.

  1. munoz1987 Franchise Player Manager Broncos

    And the other news on him is a scout said he loves to eat & cook more than play football. All these stories match up. Dude has the munchies.
     
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  2. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    If it's non-narcotic it may not even affect his current stock.

    If it is a narcotic or opioid based failure then he could see a bit of a tumble.
     
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  3. StlCrtn Franchise Player Steelers

  4. TopDawg Legend

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  5. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    I did a little more sniffing around . . .

    Turns out his combine test was "flagged". (Not necessarily a "fail") So that brings up a question in my mind.

    Seeing as these tests are administered and controlled by the NFL, where do they draw the line between player confidentiality and their obligation to advise the 32 member teams of a questionable test result?

    Technically, until these guys sign an NFL contract, they're not yet afforded protection under the NFLPA. Are they?
     
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  6. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    In my opinion, from all ive read, flagged and failed are the same thing. The issue also was a 'failed' DRUG test, something that never happened when he was in college, but they didn't test him for potato chips, it was for known and banned drugs. He was among a few others who were busted also. Also, I would like to add, the program that he has to enter is for staying clean from drugs and testing positive.

    I read, CBS, Masslive, NFL.com, Bleacher Report and the USA today, Sports Illustrated articles. Failed and flagged were interchangeable and it was definitely a drug.
     
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  7. RTTRUTH Legend Manager Colts

    I have a list for GB when we reach him
     
  8. StlCrtn Franchise Player Steelers

    I’ll be around all day. Just binging Netflix.
     
  9. Torgo M.V.P. Manager Falcons

    Was he the one that tested positive for a "diluted sample"? Somebody did, but I didn't bother keeping up with player names this week.
     
  10. Underdog Franchise Player Patriots

    Zach Baun was the diluted sample
     
  11. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    File under "FWIW":

    I had the top 4 tackles ranked pretty close. (Keep in mind I was looking for a day one LT)
    1. Andrew Thomas - Georgia. The only one of the four with extensive experience playing LT.
    2. Jedrick Wills - Alabama.
    3. Tristan Wirfs - Iowa. Wouldn't surprise me to see him moved to guard.
    4. Mekhi Becton - Louisville.
    I doubt this news drops Becton down past my number 5 (Austin Jackson - USC).
     
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  12. Torgo M.V.P. Manager Falcons


    That gets into another interesting question... they do not yet have NFLPA status, but they do still have rights under HIPAA and those lab tests qualify as medical procedures. I'm guessing they have to sign a confidentiality waiver as part of accepting the invitation to the Combine.
     
  13. matthewwillson29 Franchise Player Manager Bengals

    He is rated to be a back-up to starter by NFL.com, he is rated above (on the same site) 4 players already taken who have a below 6.00 rating. Also rated a third round pick by NBC Sports, CBS Sports, a low round second by 24/7 sports, and a few opinion based fan sites.
     
  14. matthewwillson29 Franchise Player Manager Bengals

    It is always still subjective.
     
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  15. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    Had this discussion just the other day. When a person has a medical procedure done (to include lab testing), they have a reasonable right to privacy under HIPPA. But when a player accepts an invite to the NFL combine, he should have a reasonable expectation that test results (pass or fail) may very well be disclosed.
     
  16. TopDawg Legend

    I have the same OT's as Lyman as my top 4, only in the exact reversed order...
    Becton
    Wirfs
    Wills
    Thomas

    Gonna wait to see what the details are on this, if they give any. It would be nice to at least know what caused the sample to be flagged? I know, Baun said he simply consumed too much water before the weigh in.

    It is confusing on the reports. Some are calling it an "irregularity".

    I'm guessing it's weed, but isn't the NFL loosening up their stance on that? Hopefully more details emerge.
     
  17. Torgo M.V.P. Manager Falcons

    Yet we have cases where players mysteriously slide on draft day and we find later it was for medical reasons that weren't disclosed. So HIPAA still has power. I think there's a waiver involved.

    I also think flagged vs failed sample might make a big difference in normal years, but this year (without pro days, private workouts, campus visits) teams are limited in their ability to follow up themselves so they will be more likely to assume the worst.
     
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  18. Torgo M.V.P. Manager Falcons

    Also reading that he'll only be in stage one of the program for up to 60 days. If he has no other testing irregularities in that time, case dismissed and it is not a strike against him. So... sounds like flagged sample rather than failed test.
     
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  19. Torgo M.V.P. Manager Falcons

    I'll take a different angle on this... there are a hell of a lot more players with first to third round grades than there are picks in rounds one through three. It's a mathematical certainty that some of them will go after round three.
     
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  20. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    I've seen him everywhere from 3rd to UDFA.

    I honestly would be a bit shocked if he went before the 5th based on preseason perceived value, lackluster combine and lost tape due to injury.
     
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