Khalil Mack in Navy and Orange...?

That was in an article I read, and I think the fact that it's the NFC, plus the Bears did give them the two picks plus the swapping. FOR SURE it would have given us the edge over a team like Green Bay assuming equal offers but even then I'm not sure GB actually offered the two firsts.

It might be a factor sure, but I doubt it's the key thing.

 

Yeah I used to think that too once..... then they gave him an extension.

 

Just to follow on from you guys on the win-loss record.

I had their ceiling at 7-9 pre Mack. Guess work etc but i have it at 9-7 now. A lot depends on how fast they get up and running in terms of the new Offense, Noquan & Mack.

4 of those first 5 games are very winnable. None of the last 7 games are easy imo. With a fast start the Bears could post a very good record. A slow start and they could post a very bad record.

Basically we need blang. Only someone with his proven skill can call it this year.

 

Eh... there’s some flaws in his argument(s).

First off, it’s not that GB isn’t a free agent destination. It’s that GB never signs big name free agents - because they have Aaron Rodgers. I’m sure players would love to come there.

And, I don’t recall anyone saying it took “courage” to extend Rodgers. He’s twisting words to fit his argument. It’s just that it’s not very prudent to tie up a third of your salary cap on two guys, which is what would’ve happened if they got Mack.

And last, it’s because you have two first rounders next year that you don’t do the trade. They feel they have two chances to get the NEXT Khalil Mack, younger, and on a rookie contract.

This is why I don’t listen to Colin Cowturd.

 

Can Mack make a difference on this team absolutely, I just think two firsts was just too much to give up. In a couple years the Bears will probably be up against the cap and some tough decisions will have to be made. Having those 1st round picks come in on those rookie deals will be missed, and while Pace really hasn't done much with those picks thus far because even Trubisky isn't a hit at this point, but at some point he has to hit solid on one of them doesn't he? Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

 

At least one of those picks was being used on an outside linebacker. Mack is literally the successful and best possible result of one of those two picks. Presuming we drafted a stud at the position, we would have to pay him a max amount anyway. Trubisky, at that point, will have also been paid anyway.

So, in a best-case scenario, we spend a first-round draft pick on a player that is as talented as Mack. In four years' time, we end up in the same position as the Raiders.

Instead, we get a similar amount of time with Mack and Trubisky, before we encounter that scenario. We lose the opportunity to draft a second player, but we also guarantee that we get someone of Mack's caliber, rather than gambling that a pick in the middle of the first round turns into him.

I get the sticker shock, but it was a good purchase. We can wring our hands, but the conservative option here is not necessarily the better one.

 

I get your the point that we got a can't miss pick in him but it comes at a premium price, and there lies the rub.
I also realize that having someone that can consistently pressure the QB is a key component to any good defense, and hopefully that sticker shock will fade with every sack in the books. Not just his sacks but everybody around him because he will draw the attention others won't.
Go Bears!

 

There's no doubt that it's a hard pill to swallow. I just think it'll be worth it, and ultimately wasn't as bad as it looks at face value.

Watching Vic Fangio's presser from today now. It's interesting. Always a fun guy to watch.

 

I think as Bears fans we are so used to having high draft picks lately that the price does seem too high. Also the fact that we recently got burned by giving up 2 ones for Cutler still stings.

It’s win time for this team. There is no good reason either of those first round picks should be in the top 20. Add that to the fact that we will have 2 second round picks in the 20 draft eases the pain for me at least.

 

Ok, that pic gave me a half chubb

 

This is undoubtedly true for me.

I do have a hard time getting really fired up about Mack, though. As great as he is, and as great as our D might be now, none of that means shit if Trubisky was a blown pick. If Mitch is shit, it'll take the team 3-5 years to admit it and move past it, wasting Mack's prime years. It took them 8 years before admitting Shitler needed to go when most of us here knew it after 4 years.

It's all about Mitch. If he's great, or even just good, the Bears are in great shape. If he's Cutler 2.0, then we're doomed to mediocrity, again, for the foreseeable future and nothing Mack can do will change that.