i knew of plenty of stalkers, abusers, trolls and assholes on cbs forums and the other site i can't think of where many cbs guys went to where they would harass and bash u and stalk u and they would have no qualms doing it in front of everyone. no one stopped them. then the moment you would comment back, they would ignore ALL of your posts. that system had so many flaws. the bashed people without recourse and then ignored them so they couldn't or wouldn't have to read their retorts. how fair is that? any boo or like/dislike button should have your name on it period. any posts are from your account, so you can't hide bh anything. to me that's it. ignoring should not be allowed so you can respond to taunting and harassing and not be ignored and lose the fight to the stalkers and cyber bullies.
So now we have a BAN button. i think this is a bad idea as people can hold a grudge or just be assholes and start hitting the ban button left and right. ??
It doesn't ban anyone, Cat. It's still the ignore feature, I just have to update some wording in the coding.
Yeah, not sure where Cat got the notion it was a Ban button. But, I would like to know exactly what the Ignore button will do. Will it hide an "ignored" poster's messages from view? Ideally, IMO, it would merely stop me from being alerted that there's a new message. Speaking of the indication that there's an unread message, is there a chance that that could be timed out after a year or so? I do not know how many care, but I like to clear all old messages so I will know if there's a new one. On some threads that took quite some time clearing boards that were last updated in 2015.
It will basically be like the poster you blocked doesn't exist. If you click on 'new posts' then scroll to the bottom left hand side of the page you will see 'mark all topics as read'. Click on that link and that should clear up any old message notifications you have. Let me know if that doesn't work and I will look at the setting here to see if there is anything I can do.
bc this morning, i saw it on the posts.... under the posters info on the left hand side - it was a PM button and a BAN button.
O.K., Tim and Cat. I saw an Ignore button, but never saw a Ban one. This seems to be a work in progress. I'm just going to sit tight until the boss is ready to release this. Meanwhile, I doubt that I'll ever use the ignore feature.
Missed this earlier but good thing I have kept tabs with Tim so my suggestions have already been handled through the months. As for Karma I think it's cool to remove the thumbs down but I do agree there is a balance issue. As for Thumbs Down are there really a whole lot of people abusing it? I mean there are posts deserving thumbs down and it isn't just from opinion. But the main issue seems to be people abusing it. If we know who is abusing it and try to nip it in the bud then that is good. Anyone that wants to start crap outside of the normal sports scene probably doesn't belong here anyways. As for Karma that number is baloney anyways and usually is proportionate to the number of fans from the same team you have on the boards. I don't care about Karma one bit and someone else's karma doesn't truly reflect how good of a poster they are (which is subjective anyways). But on specific posts I really like the +/- feature. Plus is good and when not abused negative can be even greater, especially when THANK YOU can mean the same as a +1 but not anonymous. If we went back to a similar +/- feature I think we need to have the minuses be independent of the pluses instead of cancelled out. Sorry Baby. Having the minuses not be anonymous may solve the abuse issue but I still think + and - being anonmyous is better and encourages minuses. I don't want to see convos turn into people targeting someone for giving a minus. IMO the best solution is to nip bad members in the bud and keep a +/- system where they don't net. It's about individual posts. Don't let the thumbs down disappear by thumbs ups. Karma should be removed as it is pretty useless. But Thanks can stay. While fellow fans may start giving more thanks, with the +1 there it shouldn't be abused. And if it is the "Total Thanks" count can be removed from the profiles. As for "ignore" I seriously want to know are there really people you want to ignore? If there are, are the people that have not been brought to a mod's, mainly Tim's attention? As I said if it is that bad it could be we need to nip them in the bud. It's a shame if there is useful info on a thread from a real poster you dislike but you miss it and everyone gets confused just because you ignored someone.
Good points in your entire post Joe, I just shortened it down in the quote to keep it clean. The ignore feature is something that has been requested a lot more than what people would guess. It's something that I'm willing to work on and test out. If it turns out to be pointless I can always remove it. The problem with both of these is the coding work around. There is simply no easy fix. The karma is abused by some posters and to an extent that I never would have guessed. Ok, since we know most which of the previous suggestions are being tasked now, let's see what other ideas you guys have that I can look into as well.
I feel funny about the ignore button idea. I still think that could be abused easily. I dislike only a couple posters attitudes, but personally I would'nt 'ignore' them as I feel like I might be missing something and every once in a while posters can see the light and recant some of their previous BS. I kinda feel like there should be free speech across the boards, but with penalty's inflicted and enforced on abusive content. ________________________________ As for the +/- system, its kinda like salt n pepper, black n white... we need both for balance/fairness. The abuse of it, especially the negative side is my primary concern. Maybe a system of just allowing members 3 minuses per month would curtail abuse.
When you mention the idea of abusing the ignore feature Will, how exactly do you see that becoming an issue? If there is a way to avoid that potential problem by incorporating the features I'd like to explore it. We had the negative karma set to 7 minutes between votes but there were still people that would spend an hour or more thumbing down posts from people they have personal issues with.
I guess my main concern was that if one person ignores multiple posters/members they actually will be taking things out of context on certain subjects as they are not seeing the whole picture, which I guess is their prerogative. I may want to post a direct response to someones post and because they are ignoring me, they would never see what I had to say to them. I prefer arguing or conversing in an intelligent manner to someone as compared to someone just being able to ignore somebody. _____________________ As for the 7 minute thing, I did not know that. Ive also changed my mind on that particular issue. If you have seen abuse, then by all means take it down. On a side note; I hate to see a few bad apples force a change that effects everybody. The +/- system in its original form should have been a good thing, but I see when dealing with a group, there seems to be a few who cant get it right. __________________________ Bottom line; I dig this site and think its great. I will adapt and roll with the changes as they become necessary... im a team player kind a guy.
Tim-to your Will question - that's easy. On the other site, posters had issues with good posters and instead of reading their posts, they ignored them all together, so if poster A post and was ignored, Posters B, C and D would NEVER see their posts again. They ignored a bunch of people and would comment all the time and then when poster A would comment, their posts would be ignored and virtually unseen. Once wars start, people get ignored and blown off a lot!
Yes, for now it does but only for each individual post. There is no total for agreements and disagreements per user. It's the ground work for further development.
Hey Tim if you are going to eventually take away Thank totals as well then at least wait until after we have to pony up wagers.
All the karma totals are still intact so if this system doesn't meet my standard we'll bring them back. The thanks totals may be removed for a styling reason but I think they will probably remain.
Quick update - the 'thanks' option is now available in the new mobile version. Although you don't see it now, you will after the new release.
