You cant fix perfection. I think this site is perfect. I like it just the way it is... Improving on a good thing isn't an easy task and you cant please everybody all the time. When it comes to improvements, I'm hard pressed to think of anything off the top of my head, but listening to input from other members is way cool too. _______________________ I don't miss the thumbs down button... as mentioned earlier, if I feel compelled enough, I will just rebut what someone may have posted by simply responding. It's kinda cool now that if you disagree with someone you cant just minus them, but you can converse with them. $0.02
THEN THERE IS THE OTHER SIDE OF IT THAT IF SOMEBODY JUST DOESN'T LIKE YOU, HE CAN GIVE A BUNCH OF THUMBS DOWN AND YOU WON'T KNOW WHO IT IS. I also brought up that if somebody is going to leave a thumbs down, the person should know who is doing it. Which is not the case. So it ends up being a cheap shot. If Tim can somehow let a person know who's leaving the thumbs down then I'm all for it either way. They are just suggestions and as M.I.A. posted, it keeps he trolls from hiding out so they can crawl back under their rock.......
I'm sorry that I didn't address this yesterday Sol I see what you mean because you are demonstrating how more people engage with poster B ergo there is more interaction on the board. The problem lies with the personal reaction of the person who is accumulating neg values. If people use only that method to show their disapproval for a post it negates the value of the discussion. To me it's an empty value. I do see what you mean Sol but I think the negative results outweigh the potential positive results.
That's my feeling Will. As all of you have probably observed there are people on the site who's feelings get hurt by the neg value and instead of generating more insightful discussion it provokes angry reactions. If you can't hit a neg button and you feel strongly about what someone has posted then you can take a couple of minutes to explain how and why you feel the way you do.
what about the addition of an ignore button. been on other boards where you can just ignore all posts from specific users. this made trolls obsolete to the regulars.
This is something I would be willing to go back to work on. I think there is some potential benefit there for certain types of members.
Rather than shorten the quotes or remove some, I am looking at it from a styling perspective. A bit smaller on the text within quotes, less cushion and maybe even a different font to make it so that it is condensed but still easily readable.
On a mobile device (tablet/phone), it gets really cumbersome. You can get halfway thru reading and be unable to see who said what. Not to mention, if you want to do the right thing and truncate, on the ipad it is a nightmare as the highlighted text seems to sometimes have a mind of it's own.
I still don't get why it's ok to add nothing to the conversation if you agree/thumbs up, but not if you disagree/thumbs down.
Only thing I can think of Sol, is there must have been some abuse somewhere (if that's even possible) that I'm not aware of. I suppose someone must have had their feelings hurt, or something. I have changed my mind and in my opinion, I vote for a two button system. Either way I'm not real concerned over the button issue. I just like having this site and hope it progresses and grows.
We discussed this on the hockey boards (that's where great minds dwell). I think there's some tact being displayed here with Tim not wanting to point fingers. But it is almost certain in my mind that someone abused the hell outta the thumbs down. If so, it is better to remove it. But this leaves Solomon's question hanging, and I do not think it's rhetorical. This may have solved an abuse problem, but it's made L4S inherently less balanced. I like someone else's suggestion: why not add a boo button separate from the thumbs up? (The two would not be netted.) This would allow us to express disatisfaction in the time-honored sports' tradition. IDK how much effort that would be, but I think it would be more fair FWIW.
This, at first glance, appears to be an excellent suggestion. My first thoughts would be to replace the thumbs altogether with a system that would have a cheer of boo counter that would be implemented in the sig line instead of the poster ID column. It would keep a running tab of both and I could incorporate a users current karma score for their initial cheer score. This is my opening thoughts on it and I would appreciate some suggestions to further it along. Thanks Dan. *DRINK*
Tim, Will gets credit for the Boo button idea. Otherwise I like your thought process. I know you work harder than most of us realize, and it must be a royal pain in the ass when some dipshit goes off the rails.
Will is, without question, one of the top reasons why this place is awesome. *YES* lol, no more so then when the dipshit running the place goes off the rails. *WALL* This place has evolved so much over the years and so much of it has been positive that I have no complaints. Conversing with people like yourself is one of the perks of having this forum. *DRINK*
Thank you, Tim. This leads to a question/suggestion; is it possible to have the T/U button added for smartphone users?
This is something that I have been trying to correct for about a year and the workaround on it creates an issue that I cannot correct. It seems like it should be a simple fix but it never turns out the way I intend. This suggestion, along with the 'ignore' feature, are probably going to take the most time to correct but they are both something that I think needs to happen here.
